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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #50 on: February 23, 2020, 09:58:46 PM »
Clearly bullshit but he was saying that to MSM...

Who are fucktards not to be taken seriously...

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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #51 on: February 24, 2020, 11:19:28 AM »
I mean, didn’t he himself have health issues as well? Tells you everything you need to know, he was part of the problem

Apparently (and JuicedKangaroo will no doubt leap in to correct me here) he just had a couple of benign tumors (LCH Eosinophilic granuloma) removed - that was fine but he suffered complications from the anesthetic and slipped into a coma for a while...  perfectly normal in a 22 stone 30 year old with 5% bodyfat...
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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #52 on: March 10, 2020, 10:38:05 PM »
Not sure when these were taken:

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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #53 on: March 11, 2020, 12:37:54 AM »
Dallas's death was odd to say the least

He was living with Lenartowitz at the time and Lenartowitz claims he and Dallas were eating at the time and he went to the bathroom and when he came back to the room , Dallas was dead on the floor from a heart attack...

Odd scenario as heart attacks are not instant and not always fatal.

The person goes through lots of agony during the heart attack and will attempt to get to help/someone during the heart attack; will knock over glasses/furniture/items/thrash about etc..

The way Lenartowitz described it doesn't fit the actual process... neither does his demeanor fit in with witnessing such an event.

Dave Palumbo claims one of his coronaries was 90 percent blocked.... well you have three coronary arteries supplying blood to the heart.. one being nearly blocked will not kill a person.

And because Dallas has suffered a scary situation on stage not long before this "heart attack" it would have made him and his coach/sponsors say, hey let's get this guy some medical intervention to see what is wrong with him... but alas nothing was investigated supposedly.

If he had blocked coronaries, that would have been treated before it became an issue.

So, I just feel there is more to his death than we are being told...

Odd, if you are a moron and go with the rumours of the internet. In the reality where this all happen, there is not only pathology report about this death, but even a video where this doc explain very clearly what happen, by logic and facts. You are right, not all heart attacks are lethal. Not all, but some of them are, that's why they are called "massive heart attacks". If your heart stops pumping blood to your brains, you fall down dead in seconds, just like Dallas did.


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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #54 on: March 11, 2020, 02:44:18 AM »
Odd, if you are a moron and go with the rumours of the internet. In the reality where this all happen, there is not only pathology report about this death, but even a video where this doc explain very clearly what happen, by logic and facts. You are right, not all heart attacks are lethal. Not all, but some of them are, that's why they are called "massive heart attacks". If your heart stops pumping blood to your brains, you fall down dead in seconds, just like Dallas did.



This^

Dallas was grossly overweight and unwell well due to massive continued drug abuse, he had a heart attack and died. Rip

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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #55 on: March 11, 2020, 03:10:54 AM »
This^

Dallas was grossly overweight and unwell well due to massive continued drug abuse, he had a heart attack and died. Rip
Makes you wonder how guys like Eddie Hall can walk around at close to 400 lbs without too many issues. Dallas was not as heavy as these strongmen. I wonder if Dallas used a CPAP.

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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #56 on: March 11, 2020, 03:41:17 AM »
Is Dallas considered to have elite genetics for bbing?? Or was it the drugs especially in his case?


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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #57 on: March 11, 2020, 11:01:59 AM »
Is Dallas considered to have elite genetics for bbing?? Or was it the drugs especially in his case?



Good question. He won the Chicago Pro show rather young. He also deadlifted 845-lb, and bench pressed over 500-lb.

Maxime Boudreault is Thunder Bay's Strongest Man and almost qualified for the Arnold Pro this year, and he isn't quite at the deadlift and bench press that Dallas had [but VERY close - bench is around the same].

Even Ronnie didn't lift what Dallas did.

I realize that it's bodybuilding, and not strongman or powerlifting, but Dallas was top tier, IMO. Not sure exactly where in that top 25% of pro bodybuilders though, but I think top 25% is fair.

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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #58 on: March 11, 2020, 12:43:08 PM »
Good question. He won the Chicago Pro show rather young. He also deadlifted 845-lb, and bench pressed over 500-lb.

Maxime Boudreault is Thunder Bay's Strongest Man and almost qualified for the Arnold Pro this year, and he isn't quite at the deadlift and bench press that Dallas had [but VERY close - bench is around the same].

Even Ronnie didn't lift what Dallas did.

I realize that it's bodybuilding, and not strongman or powerlifting, but Dallas was top tier, IMO. Not sure exactly where in that top 25% of pro bodybuilders though, but I think top 25% is fair.

Matt if you continue to post BLASPHEMY I will be forced to bludgeon you until your height measures 5 "8 permanently.

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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #59 on: March 11, 2020, 02:42:46 PM »
Not sure when these were taken:

Prolly before he was dead?



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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #60 on: March 12, 2020, 12:52:32 AM »
Makes you wonder how guys like Eddie Hall can walk around at close to 400 lbs without too many issues. Dallas was not as heavy as these strongmen. I wonder if Dallas used a CPAP.

You don't know how? Just by good luck. And you among these other guys are misunderstanding what overweight means in this case. He wasn't "overweight" as a bodybuilder, but all his organs were twice as large than normal person, some of them triple in size. So his organs, lungs, kidneys, heart, liver etc. were at least twice heavier than they should be, and that is the overweight which kill him. Only reasons why this can happen, were bad genetics from the family, and insane amount of juice. He also had thyroid cancer, which is quite rare among 26 years old men. What happen if you have nearly starting thyroid cancer and you use crazy amount of growth hormones? Do the cancer speed up it's growth, or will it grow slowly, just ignoring all the extra growth factors?

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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #61 on: March 12, 2020, 02:32:26 AM »
Makes you wonder how guys like Eddie Hall can walk around at close to 400 lbs without too many issues. Dallas was not as heavy as these strongmen. I wonder if Dallas used a CPAP.

I seem to remember Eddie Hall saying he had had a heart attack already. Or was it two?
There is a reason why he downsized after the 500kg deadlift. Very very close to death.

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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #62 on: March 12, 2020, 02:43:50 AM »
Makes you wonder how guys like Eddie Hall can walk around at close to 400 lbs without too many issues. Dallas was not as heavy as these strongmen. I wonder if Dallas used a CPAP.

Weight is one thing but he was on TONS of drugs, easily more than Eddie Hall.

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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #63 on: March 12, 2020, 02:47:48 AM »
I had forgot that there was "Dallas cycle" circulating back then. It came up again with Nick Trigili's interview with Chad. Also saw a video with Palumbo commenting on it.
There are several things indicating it could be legit, but both of these guys scoffed at it, and Palumbo said it was basically impossible to do. I don't know if Palumbo is an idiot for real or if he just didn't want anyone emulating it or what. For example he said no one can do 100iu Lantus plus 20-25iu quick acting with every meal. It can be done pretty easily and it is done for a fact. Chad said it was actually a shopping list for 2 people. It wasn't written in that way so I see it as obvious misdirection on his part.

Palumbo said many false things. For example:

You can't eat if you take a lot of Anadrol.

You can't sleep if you take a lot of tren.

You can't take a lot of test suspension due to pain.

All bullshit.

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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #64 on: March 12, 2020, 02:50:40 AM »
Weight is one thing but he was on TONS of drugs, easily more than Eddie Hall.

I'm not so sure about that. Strongmen and powerlifters are some of the craziest motherfuckers around. They do some absolutely insane things with drugs before meets, things that would seem like pure suicide to most elite bodybuilders even.

For example, some might do A GRAM of orals per day last couple of weeks.

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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #65 on: March 12, 2020, 02:51:27 AM »
Jumbo palumbo says a lot of half truths just like the retard Lee priest. Take all of it with a grain of salt

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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #66 on: March 12, 2020, 02:53:40 AM »
I'm not so sure about that. Strongmen and powerlifters are some of the craziest motherfuckers around. They do some absolutely insane things with drugs before meets, things that would seem like pure suicide to most elite bodybuilders even.

I don’t disagree but I reckon Dallas was on a “another level”  that and his genetics for health and longevity couldn’t and didn’t hold up

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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #67 on: March 12, 2020, 03:52:50 AM »
I don’t disagree but I reckon Dallas was on a “another level”  that and his genetics for health and longevity couldn’t and didn’t hold up

Yeah he was extreme for sure. And I don't think anyone's body can withstand that type of use for long. He was probably a multi-gram user with lots of gh and insulin as a teen already.

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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #68 on: March 12, 2020, 04:07:17 AM »
Could you all imagine how happy and excited Josh was deep down knowing he got to keep all of Dallas’ unused stash he hid before he made the 911 call.

I bet he was ecstatic.


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GH is fucking expensive in Australia can you blame him

Dallas pretty much went from Natty to dying within 5 years. He would have been on so much shit and weighed so much his body was under immense pressure and something was going to give.

As for taking doctors advice after nearly dying - hahaha do you know how a guy in that situation thinks? 'ok I almost passed out onstage it was just overdoing the diuretics. Next time i'll take 3/4 a much and i'll be 100%' He doesn't change shit. It's like Derek Anthony saying he had to clean out and be healthy, reality is he probably dropped the dose by half, that's half a grossly overinflated dose anyway so he's still killing himself which he did. They aren't changing anything. They'll inject and take anything until they physically are in a hospital bed and their buddy isn't allowed to come in and inject them on the sly.

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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #69 on: March 12, 2020, 06:41:19 AM »
DA was such a moron.

He could have kept making a killing on the schmoe scene if he kept the dosages moderate and fought tooth and nail to keep his hair.

The thing is they can’t, it’s a mental disease, a lot of these guys have addictive personalities, no different than meth addicts, etc...

Dallas was a moron, the signs were all there, I don’t feel sorry for him one bit

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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #70 on: March 12, 2020, 06:51:11 AM »
Weight is one thing but he was on TONS of drugs, easily more than Eddie Hall.

I dont think so, imo Eddie would have been on ten grams gear when pushing the limit....

Look at how crazed and obsessed he was and the limit he pushed his body too, his appearance was crazy, super bloated huge etc.... Massive gear use needed at those body weights and strength levels.

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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #71 on: March 12, 2020, 06:53:13 AM »
Makes you wonder how guys like Eddie Hall can walk around at close to 400 lbs without too many issues. Dallas was not as heavy as these strongmen. I wonder if Dallas used a CPAP.

It's luck of the draw regarding the individuals genetics....

Dallas was unlucky.

That said Eddie hall was an obvious ticking time bomb, the limits he pushed himself to.

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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #72 on: March 12, 2020, 07:02:18 AM »
I dont think so, imo Eddie would have been on ten grams gear when pushing the limit....

Look at how crazed and obsessed he was and the limit he pushed his body too, his appearance was crazy, super bloated huge etc.... Massive gear use needed at those body weights and strength levels.

I don’t doubt that but Dallas was on diuretics, gh, insulin, dieting for shows, getting shredded, then putting on tons of more weight, that effect is brutal. I’m willing to bet Eddie didn’t run the shit and amount Dallas ran , also didn’t Eddie have health issues too? And he backed off? Dallas had his foot on the gas even after health scares, maybe that. Who knows, genetic longevity or lack of?

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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #73 on: March 12, 2020, 07:10:27 AM »
The thing is they can’t, it’s a mental disease, a lot of these guys have addictive personalities, no different than meth addicts, etc...

Dallas was a moron, the signs were all there, I don’t feel sorry for him one bit

Also, they are addicted to getting attention. For some people, the need for attention leads to horrible choices.

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Re: Matt Jansen Opens up About Dallas McCarver's Death [RXMuscle].
« Reply #74 on: March 12, 2020, 09:01:36 AM »
Dallas's death was odd to say the least

He was living with Lenartowitz at the time and Lenartowitz claims he and Dallas were eating at the time and he went to the bathroom and when he came back to the room , Dallas was dead on the floor from a heart attack...

Odd scenario as heart attacks are not instant and not always fatal.

The person goes through lots of agony during the heart attack and will attempt to get to help/someone during the heart attack; will knock over glasses/furniture/items/thrash about etc..

The way Lenartowitz described it doesn't fit the actual process... neither does his demeanor fit in with witnessing such an event.

Dave Palumbo claims one of his coronaries was 90 percent blocked.... well you have three coronary arteries supplying blood to the heart.. one being nearly blocked will not kill a person.

And because Dallas has suffered a scary situation on stage not long before this "heart attack" it would have made him and his coach/sponsors say, hey let's get this guy some medical intervention to see what is wrong with him... but alas nothing was investigated supposedly.

If he had blocked coronaries, that would have been treated before it became an issue.

So, I just feel there is more to his death than we are being told...

Your assumptions about MI are wrong, a better understanding of cardiac anatomy is highly recommended so you can make a better judgement.  Dave Palumbo has next to zero medical knowledge and has carved out a nice following preying on those who know even less and are under the impression that he has some degree of training.  Be wary of him.