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Is Bernie Sanders a Russian Spy?
« on: February 21, 2020, 06:19:30 PM »
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Sanders told Russia is trying to help his campaign
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By Paul LeBlanc, CNN
Fri February 21, 2020
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/21/politics/bernie-sanders-russia-election-interference/index.html

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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a Russian Spy?
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2020, 06:21:45 PM »
The media rally does not want Bernie to be the dems candidate.  I think the only person they hate more is Trump.

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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a Russian Spy?
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2020, 06:24:00 PM »
So we're back to Russians again? ::)
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a Russian Spy?
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2020, 07:15:54 PM »
Well, he was a fan of Castro and his revolution.

"I was very excited and impressed by the Cuban Revolution, and there was Kennedy and Nixon
talking about which particular method they should use about destroying the revolution," Sanders
recalled. "Usually I'm sufficiently unemotional not to be sick, but I actually got up from the room
and almost left to puke because, for the first time in my adult life, what I was seeing is the Democrats
and Republicans, both of them … clearly there really wasn’t a whole lot of difference between the two."

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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a Russian Spy?
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2020, 08:58:37 PM »
If one of these nuts ever gets executive power it will be a big problem.  I still think 2024 is going to be the perfect atmosphere for a socialist buzzword revenge candidate.

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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a Russian Spy?
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2020, 03:08:15 AM »
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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7h
MSDNC (Comcast Slime),
@CNN
 and others of the Fake Media, have now added Crazy Bernie to the list of Russian Sympathizers, along with
@TulsiGabbard
 & Jill Stein (of the Green Party), both agents of Russia, they say. But now they report President Putin wants Bernie (or me) to win.


Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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7h
....The reason for this is that the Do Nothing Democrats, using disinformation Hoax number 7, don’t want Bernie Sanders to get the Democrat Nomination, and they figure this would be very bad for his chances. It’s all rigged, again, against Crazy Bernie Sanders!

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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a Russian Spy?
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2020, 05:40:49 AM »
If one of these nuts ever gets executive power it will be a big problem.  I still think 2024 is going to be the perfect atmosphere for a socialist buzzword revenge candidate.

I too think and have said this is our “battle of the bulge”. After 2024 we will be beaten and there will be no going back. Socialism and wokeness will take over.

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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a Russian Spy?
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2020, 06:11:47 AM »
I too think and have said this is our “battle of the bulge”. After 2024 we will be beaten and there will be no going back. Socialism and wokeness will take over.

The problem I see for Republicans going forward is that they’re going to have to deal with unraveling failed government interventions. Education, healthcare and of course the social programs. Democrats will be willing to go down with the ship on these things.

Bernie isn’t wrong about a lot about a lot of these issues it’s just that his solution is to have a complete government takeovers when it was Government that created these problems in the first place.

A good example is student debt. It was created by government loan programs which created phony demand and jacked up prices.

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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a Russian Spy?
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2020, 11:03:18 PM »


A good example is student debt. It was created by government loan programs which created phony demand and jacked up prices.




And in that same spirit if college was totally free it wouldn't be worth paying for. Nobody would ever fail a class.

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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a Russian Spy?
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2020, 06:50:40 AM »
no, he's just an old crazy burnt out hippie who likes to run his mouth.
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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a Russian Spy?
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2020, 07:44:38 AM »
The pretend Poor Man getting his just comeuppance from his own libatards. Classic libatardism.
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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a Russian Spy?
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2020, 08:50:23 AM »


And in that same spirit if college was totally free it wouldn't be worth paying for. Nobody would ever fail a class.

The real way to make education more affordable is through online and distance learning, but the left doesn’t really like this because it exposes that much of the educational infrastructure is redundant. That’s a dirty little secret that the teachers unions want to keep hidden.

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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a Russian Spy?
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2020, 09:41:52 AM »
He is not a spy - he is an open communist.

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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a Russian Spy?
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2020, 12:42:00 PM »
The real way to make education more affordable is through online and distance learning, but the left doesn’t really like this because it exposes that much of the educational infrastructure is redundant. That’s a dirty little secret that the teachers unions want to keep hidden.
This, technology has completely changed the way we access information.  A student can research at 3X the rate that we did 30 years ago but degree programs take the same amount of time or longer to complete.

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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a Russian Spy?
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2020, 04:12:32 AM »
Comrade Sanders
Townhall.com ^ | February 25, 2020 | Derek Hunter
Posted on 2/25/2020, 7:03:52 AM by Kaslin

For a guy who hates capitalism, Bernie Sanders is exceedingly good at it. It’s not just the millions of dollars he’s made (and kept to himself) from his books, but his campaign offers anything the young communist could want to show they are a true believer, short of a billy club or keys to a Gulag.

At his website, the unshowered parental disappointments in your life can buy $27 t-shirts with his name on it or “College for All” across the front, as if to advertise how your priorities are screwed up. If you’re angry about borrowing $25k per year for a worthless women’s studies degree, what business do you have dropping $27 on cotton rag demanding someone else picks up the cost?

For the adventurous granola cruncher, there is the $5 “Medicare for All” bumper sticker. After all, why not lay down what is likely a 10,000 percent mark-up for something to cover the rust on your VW Beetle or to replace the Grateful Dead sticker you bought just after Gerry died? It’s been a while. Time to move on.

Bernie also offers $7 car magnets, for those trust fund babies and yuppies who never grew up, but feel guilty about their wealth. Giving to charity is for suckers, but so is putting something that will be hard to peel off and could damage the paint on that new BMW.

There’s also the $5 “Not me, us” sticker which features a silhouette of Bernie superimposed over a faceless crowd, thereby defeating the message of the sticker by showing that it is, in fact, about Bernie.

Then there are the hats ($18-$27), a $27 rally poster (guaranteed to ensure virginity through middle age for anyone who hangs it on their bedroom wall), buttons ($5), a mug ($18), and more tote bags than PBS during a pledge drive.

For a mere $18 you can buy a canvas tote that will not only allow you to virtue signal everyone at the Whole Foods about how “woke” you are, but you can do so with a pretentious message emblazoned across it. Imagine tossing $4 avocados into a bag reading, “Bernie for the planet." What up-and-coming failure wouldn’t want a “Keep calm and vote Bernie?" Or, if none of those make you tingle in the right places, there’s always the one with what could be a poorly drawn planet Earth in a human hand (it kind of looks like a bar of soap, but that’s highly unlikely given the audience) with the words, “Vote Bernie, save this.”

Bernie Sanders' online store offers everything you need to empower supporters to show the world that the education system has failed them and disappoint parents from coast to coast.

The worst part isn’t that Bernie is selling these and many, many other worthless things to raise money for his campaign, it’s that he’s running to essentially destroy anyone else’s ability to do the same. Not the “to raise campaign funds part,” the to make a living part.

People who make a living through their own initiative are the enemy of Bernie Sanders and his army, and all businesses must be destroyed. He’s not campaigning on that, obviously, but it’s the subtext of everything the man says and advocates.

American citizens are property of the state, not the other way around. Illegal aliens? They get a pass. More than that, they get the same “benefits” as Americans without any of that pesky “having to pay taxes to contribute to the cost” mess that ruins people’s April 15th.

How a campaign blatantly promising to screw over Americans while benefitting people in the country illegally gained traction in a major political party in the United States (or any country, for that matter) is a testament to the power of the fringe, the most extreme elements of the left. Why the Democratic Party can’t rally behind anyone who likes the country, is proud of it, is shocking.

Bernie Sanders is what happens when a party is devoid of leaders. Bernie is popular with a select group of naïve young people who’ve yet to earn anything worth having, so the idea of government-sanctioned theft is appealing to them. But the worst part is no one has stood up to him or his ideas; no one has stood up for the country or what made it great. Instead, they pander to the same people, mistaking enthusiasm for the man as enthusiasm up for grabs.

It’s Bernie or bust for his supporters. They’re already dominated by demographic considered the least likely to vote in the general election. Even if they are enough to win the nomination in a widely split field, they’re not likely to carry anyone over the finish line because there aren’t more of them. And the demographic most likely to vote in the general election are the least likely to embrace Bernie’s vision. They remember the horrors of socialism and communism, they fought them for this country and aren’t likely to embrace them now.

That’s where the other Democrats dropped the ball. Aping the radical left is never going to appeal to people who want it when the real deal is also on the ballot. You can’t out-Bernie Bernie.

Now, with no one willing to leave the race and allow opposition to coalesce around one alternative, it’s close to too late to stop him from at least getting a plurality of the delegates needed to win the nomination. If Bernie goes into the convention with the most delegates and doesn’t win the nomination, well, hell hath no fury like a Bernie-bro scorned.

The t-shirts will be donned, the tote bags will fly, and Democrats will finally get a dose of what everyone else has been warning Antifa has been doing to them.

Comrade Bernie came to win. And just like those historical monsters he admires, he’s not about to let anything stand in his way. If only the other candidates weren’t too busy sucking up to him and his army to notice.

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Re: Is Bernie Sanders a Russian Spy?
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2020, 04:28:01 AM »
Bernie Sanders Misleading Narrative on Communist Cuba
Townhall.com ^ | February 25, 2020 | John Lott Jr
Posted on 2/25/2020, 7:18:38 AM by

With Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) becoming the odds on favorite to win the Democrat nomination, the media rehabilitation efforts have begun. First up on Sunday evening was CBS’s 60 Minutes, which moved to protect Sanders against attacks that he is a communist.

Host Anderson Cooper didn’t ask Sanders about his decision to honeymoon in the former Soviet Union or about past proposals for “public ownership of utilities, banks, and major industries,” proposals that Sanders has never disavowed. However, Cooper did ask Sanders about some positive statements that he has made about Communist Cuba.

In explaining why Cubans didn’t help the U.S. overthrow Fidel Castro, 60 Minutes first played an old interview of Sanders explaining it failed because people liked Castro. He “educated the kids, gave them health care, totally transformed the society.” No mention is made of the police state and Castro killing or throwing his political opponents in prison.

“You know it is unfair to simply say that everything is bad,” Sanders told Cooper. “When Fidel Castro came into office, you know what he did? He had a massive literacy program. Is that a bad thing? Even though Fidel Castro did it?”

Sanders can’t acknowledge it, but the push in communist countries to make sure that everyone could read had a dark side -- the literacy programs were a massive indoctrination effort. The communist governments used the education system the same way that they take over at the same time and use television, radio, and newspapers. Controlling information is the reason that communist governments would regularly jam radio Voice of America’s broadcasts in their countries during the Cold War.

That is the same pattern that we have seen in other noncommunist totalitarian countries such as Nazi Germany. But undoubtedly Sanders wouldn’t be as effusive in his praise of the Nazi education system. In both the Nazi and communist systems, even simple math problems contained indoctrination lessons for students.

Education was just another part of the police state to control people. If you could teach people from a young age how wonderful the government is and how horrible the lives are for people in freer countries, you didn’t have to spend as much money on the secret police.

Cuba, other communist countries, and other totalitarian countries spent a lot more on education than freer countries with the same per capita income. Totalitarian countries also start public schooling at younger ages than freer countries, and they did so because they wanted to weaken the connection between children and their parents and replace the parent’s values with those of the government.

Sometimes these governments went much further than simply starting school at younger ages. For example, during the 1920s and 1950s, the Soviet Union experimented with raising children in communal children’s houses and dining halls that almost completely removed children from the influence of their parents. While fighting in Afghanistan during the 1980s, the Soviet government forcibly took tens of thousands of 3-and 4-year-old Afghanis to the USSR and raised them away from the influences of their families. The hope was that when later returned to Afghanistan, they would form the core of a loyal government administration.

In 1989, immediately before the fall of the Soviet Union, former President Ronald Reagan pointed out, “the biggest of Big Brothers is helpless against the technology of the Information Age.” Unlike Sanders, Reagan understood that part of winning the Cold War was breaking the control that communist governments had over the information that their citizens received.

Sanders is not alone in praising Cuba’s health care system. Of course, when Fidel Castro got very ill, he went to Spain for medical treatment. Their most significant bragging right was their improvements in infant mortality rates. But while infant mortality rates were improving dramatically between 1960 and 1971 in all the rest of North, Central, and South America, Cuba alone saw things get worse. Cuba’s big improvements occurred long after the attempted overthrow of Castro. To lower the infant mortality rate, the government forced abortions for high-risk babies. The government also took many pregnant women away from their families and ordered that they stay in special maternity homes. By 2000, the Cuban government was ordering 40 percent of mothers to stay in these homes for at least a portion of their pregnancy.

Cuba was able to eventually get an infant mortality rate slightly below that in the United States, but Anderson Cooper didn’t ask Sanders any follow-up questions about how the Cubans accomplished this “transformation.”

Communist countries from Cuba to Eastern Europe to the Soviet Union impoverished their citizens, though their leaders lived lives of luxury. The general citizens had miserable lives. Bernie Sanders might not want to acknowledge it, but their supposedly fabulous accomplishments had a real dark side.

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