Covid 19 - We are all screwed - discuss

[friedchickendinner]

Bats are always involved. How about leaving Bats alone?

[FitnessFrenzy]

Italian medical chief dies from coronavirus

the number of deaths is exploding in italy 

[FitnessFrenzy]

Cases in Italy will start to drop off now due to containment in a similar fashion to China.

not in the near future. China's quarantine was extreme: Welding people into their own homes etc.

[Army of One]

not in the near future. China's quarantine was extreme: Welding people into their own homes etc.

Not only this, in many parts food was dropped off once a week outside buildings, the building manager had to prove via tests he didn't have a temperature, wasn't sick etc, then was allowed to come out and collect food once drivers had left,and then be locked in again.Only China and NK can pull that off.

[Megalodon]

 

[FitnessFrenzy]

Not only this, in many parts food was dropped off once a week outside buildings, the building manager had to prove via tests he didn't have a temperature, wasn't sick etc, then was allowed to come out and collect food once drivers had left,and then be locked in again.Only China and NK can pull that off.

I just went  out and bought canned food etc. this evening. A lot of supermarket shelves were already empty.

[friedchickendinner]

Protein Powder will save us!

[Mayday]

the number of deaths is exploding in italy 

The old die quickly, it skews the data. Only the very ill are iidentified and included. People who have it mildly aren't recorded in the data because they are never diagnosed.

It's like this. The virus is stupid contagious, to the point that 70% will get it. We can't stop it, only slow it down.

There are globally 100k reported cases (ballpark) when we know modelling shows millions have it right now.

So you have maybe 10% at best being included in the data set who would represent the hospitalised and really sick. Meanwhile 90% have a cold and no idea they have this virus of which even if you see a doctor if you look healthy they say you have a cold and move you along.

The globe is looking at 20% of the population (eldery) being wiped off the map. The rest of us will be fine. Financially decimated, but alive.

[Flexacon]

You need to be able to access it, digest it, then be somewhat logical at formulating a forecast.Look at how long it took on here after the threads were made with me and gib shouting from the rooftops.I can only recall a couple of posters who outright agreed this was very serious from the outset.Same with all the conversations in person I had.A load of people thinking i was crazy a month ago now sheepishly admitting they were wrong.This same mentality was why flights were not stopped, borders not shut and mass testing not carried out a fortnight ago.If all people had to do was "re-report" then everything righted itself, then we shouldn't be in this mess no?

Your reaction to it was and still is OTT, bordering on the crazy. If you, your partner, kids etc are in a at risk group then that's somewhat understandable. Otherwise you should quit obsessing and focus more on making sure you come out on top at the end of this.

[robcguns]

This is the same media that recently gave you this pearl of wisdom. This actually made on the air on one of the Lib networks, I believe MSNBC:


“Bloomberg spent $500 million on ads. The U.S. population is 327 million,” Rivas wrote. “He could have given each American $1 million and still have money left over. I feel like a $1 million check would be life-changing for most people. Yet he wasted it all on ads and STILL LOST.”

Hahahaha fucking idiots

[Flexacon]

The old die quickly, it skews the data. Only the very ill are iidentified and included. People who have it mildly aren't recorded in the data because they are never diagnosed.

It's like this. The virus is stupid contagious, to the point that 70% will get it. We can't stop it, only slow it down.

There are globally 100k reported cases (ballpark) when we know modelling shows millions have it right now.

So you have maybe 10% at best being included in the data set who would represent the hospitalised and really sick. Meanwhile 90% have a cold and no idea they have this virus of which even if you see a doctor if you look healthy they say you have a cold and move you along.

The globe is looking at 20% of the population (eldery) being wiped off the map. The rest of us will be fine. Financially decimated, but alive.

It's not all elderly. It will roughly be 10% to 15% dying of them if they all catch it. How soon they catch it might shift those numbers up or down too.

[Army of One]

Your reaction to it was and still is OTT, bordering on the crazy. If you, your partner, kids etc are in a at risk group then that's somewhat understandable. Otherwise you should quit obsessing and focus more on making sure you come out on top at the end of this.

You kept raising the bar on this every step of the way, and you have been wrong everytime.If you can tell me a time in your life when all sports leagues, schools, public gatherings, restaurants, bars etc were shut, hundreds of millions in quaruntine, and potentially hundreds of millions dead in a year, id like to hear it.If you think world governments would take these steps for anything but a once in a century or more occurrence, then i feel sorry for your past school teachers.And i said from day 1 it wasnt the virus i feared, but the breakdown in society and infrastructure.What is going to be the level you raise the bar to when your country is like italy within the month?

[friedchickendinner]

Ireland - cancel St Patricks Day

Chicago - doesn't. 
(400 000 people)

[dearth]

daily dose of stupidity from the orange turd


"Trump fears emergency declaration would contradict coronavirus message"

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/11/trump-emergency-declaration-coronavirus-message-125902

[tres_taco_combo]

This is the same media that recently gave you this pearl of wisdom. This actually made on the air on one of the Lib networks, I believe MSNBC:


“Bloomberg spent $500 million on ads. The U.S. population is 327 million,” Rivas wrote. “He could have given each American $1 million and still have money left over. I feel like a $1 million check would be life-changing for most people. Yet he wasted it all on ads and STILL LOST.”

lol at this

[Pray_4_War]

They want everyone to panic, they want the panic to tank the economy....and it is.  

So, when the economy completely tanks they will fashion some ridiculous argument how it's Trumps fault because he did this or should have done that.  

An since Trump "tanked the economy" (lol), then everyone should go vote for Creepy Uncle Joe the child sniffer.

This is pretty much the only hope they have to defeat Trump since their senile candidate is out there cursing at voters and calling them names

[GigantorX]

daily dose of stupidity from the orange turd


"Trump fears emergency declaration would contradict coronavirus message"

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/11/trump-emergency-declaration-coronavirus-message-125902

"Said a republican who speaks to Trump..."

Hahahahahah. More fake sources, more unverifiable sources. More made up stuff.

Again, do you like being played for a fool?

[illuminati]

This is the same media that recently gave you this pearl of wisdom. This actually made on the air on one of the Lib networks, I believe MSNBC:


“Bloomberg spent $500 million on ads. The U.S. population is 327 million,” Rivas wrote. “He could have given each American $1 million and still have money left over. I feel like a $1 million check would be life-changing for most people. Yet he wasted it all on ads and STILL LOST.”

Ha ha ha
Seriously!!!

Not to Bright are they.

[illuminati]

You kept raising the bar on this every step of the way, and you have been wrong everytime.If you can tell me a time in your life when all sports leagues, schools, public gatherings, restaurants, bars etc were shut, hundreds of millions in quaruntine, and potentially hundreds of millions dead in a year, id like to hear it.If you think world governments would take these steps for anything but a once in a century or more occurrence, then i feel sorry for your past school teachers.And i said from day 1 it wasnt the virus i feared, but the breakdown in society and infrastructure.What is going to be the level you raise the bar to when your country is like italy within the month?

Serious questions.
Is this virus destroying Africa & South American Countries?
I’ve recently heard it can’t survive in temps above 25c
If this is correct as summer comes it should help kill it off.

Also do you really believe 100s of Millions will die because of this virus ?

[illuminati]

"Said a republican who speaks to Trump..."

Hahahahahah. More fake sources, more unverifiable sources. More made up stuff.

Again, do you like being played for a fool?

Ha ha - I’d hazard a safe guess that clearly he does enjoy being the Fool.

[Army of One]

Serious questions.
Is this virus destroying Africa & South American Countries?
I’ve recently heard it can’t survive in temps above 25c
If this is correct as summer comes it should help kill it off.

Also do you really believe 100s of Millions will die because of this virus ?

This is the million do!lar question.Many theorised by 26-27 degrees the virus lasts very little time on surfaces, and up to 9 days in colder climates.But the other factor is tourism, South America or Africa isn't exactly a massive tourist destination for those outside of it due to their high crime rate and poverty, so it could simply be taking longer due to less people internationally coming in from Asia or the EU.The Joe Rogan link I posted in the other thread with the infectious diseases guy, who was telling everyone in January this would happen from his models, claims temperature will have no effect.Our best guess now is to look at Australia, which has just crept up to 100 cases from only 20 a week or so ago.See where they are in a week and I think we'll have our answer.

No idea about the hundreds of millions dying, at this point it all depends on containment and if temperature has any effect, with summer coming for most of us.If it doesn't then I can't see how India, Africa and South America don't get hit way harder than anything we have seen so far.

[Flexacon]

You kept raising the bar on this every step of the way, and you have been wrong everytime.If you can tell me a time in your life when all sports leagues, schools, public gatherings, restaurants, bars etc were shut, hundreds of millions in quaruntine, and potentially hundreds of millions dead in a year, id like to hear it.If you think world governments would take these steps for anything but a once in a century or more occurrence, then i feel sorry for your past school teachers.And i said from day 1 it wasnt the virus i feared, but the breakdown in society and infrastructure.What is going to be the level you raise the bar to when your country is like italy within the month?

What was I wrong about? Most of my posts from weeks ago are what people are reposting now.

Unlike you I haven't become hysterical. You got so many things wrong it's laughable. At one time you claimed 50% of infected doctors would die. East asian genetics meant a higher percentage of them would die. Most of the your posts were incomplete or wildly inaccurate.

The funny thing is any breakdown in society that will occur is because of hysterical idiots like you. And I said 3 weeks ago. If you weren't busy being hysterical about it all you could be so easily be making all this work to your advantage.

He is in the category most likely to die from it. Naturally he'll be shitting himself.

The virus taking out a large chunk of the elderly population is tragic, but at the same time the harsh reality is that it's a necessity.

It's also taking out people with substandard lung health which is mostly heavy smokers. Sucks if that's your vice, but they made that choice so diddums.

The variance by race is minimal if none at all. But it looks like smoking might cause a significant increase, so places like China where two thirds of men are smokers will suffer the most.

If tobacco is the issue and not just smoking it then it's not looking too good for shisha users. Might actually be worse for them. Middle east is screwed

I haven't checked if people who quit smoking still have increased levels, but if that's the case then there are large numbers of people who are over 50 and quit who will be facing a double whammy.

Just want to quote this again as this is may be the sanest post in this thread.

The at risk groups appear to be the elderly, long term smokers, diabetics etc. Basically the same at risk groups as the flu.

It will likely cause more deaths than flu because it seems to show little to no symptoms in healthy individuals, so it has the potential to spread must faster.

As for the doom and gloom merchants. I feel for your mental health and chances are this will fizzle out in the next few months as the weather warms up. Stay safe and don't panic.

The latest from my people in China is that they have discovered that covid19 has 2 mutations S-Cov and L-Cov.

S-Cov was the likely earlier strain as it's similar to bat Coronavirus and is the milder of the 2. L-Cov is more virulent, has a higher translatability and causes more harm to the respiratory system. It may be possible to become infected by one, recover and then become infected by the other. Further mutations are also possible.

L-Cov spread more rapidly in China despite it being newer, but since early January it's been on the decline.

So what should you take away from this.  You can be the type who thinks more virulent version won't hang around for much longer, the majority might end up experiencing a milder version and in a few months time people will shrug their shoulders and wonder what all the fuss was about. Or you can Army of one it and sit in a dark room with a loaded revolver ready to blow your brains out at the first sign of you developing a cough.

Those slanty eye fooks are also trying to put the idea out that the Corona virus might not have actually originated in China. Yeah right.

[Army of One]

What was I wrong about? Most of my posts from weeks ago are what people are reposting now.

Unlike you I haven't become hysterical. You got so many things wrong it's laughable. At one time you claimed 50% of infected doctors would die. East asian genetics meant a higher percentage of them would die. Most of the your posts were incomplete or wildly inaccurate.

The funny thing is any breakdown in society that will occur is because of hysterical idiots like you. And I said 3 weeks ago. If you weren't busy being hysterical about it all you could be so easily be making all this work to your advantage.

I never claimed 50% would die, I said 50% wouldn't be available due to quaruntine or sickness, which I clarified and you acknowledged.What you have been wrong about is that you live in some fairytale world where 2% of developed world's population could die, and 10% be hospitalised, and you think it won't have world changing knock on effects on society, the markets, infrastructure, supply chains, medical facilities,taxes etc, and it won't impact your life more than any other event so far if it plays out as it could, or even should if you look at the pure maths of it.

[illuminati]

This is the million do!lar question.Many theorised by 26-27 degrees the virus lasts very little time on surfaces, and up to 9 days in colder climates.But the other factor is tourism, South America or Africa isn't exactly a massive tourist destination for those outside of it due to their high crime rate and poverty, so it could simply be taking longer due to less people internationally coming in from Asia or the EU.The Joe Rogan link I posted in the other thread with the infectious diseases guy, who was telling everyone in January this would happen from his models, claims temperature will have no effect.Our best guess now is to look at Australia, which has just crept up to 100 cases from only 20 a week or so ago.See where they are in a week and I think we'll have our answer.

No idea about the hundreds of millions dying, at this point it all depends on containment and if temperature has any effect, with summer coming for most of us.If it doesn't then I can't see how India, Africa and South America don't get hit way harder than anything we have seen so far.

Cheers - Thanks for the Reply.

[Army of One]

Australia is not a good example as it is heading into winter and temperatures are going down. It's also a massive country with wildly different temperatures. Tropical heat all year in the north and cold in the south. Also in places like Sydney, temps vary a lot from day to day. Like in summer one day can be 45 then the next day 23. I guess you can look at how many get infected in the north vs south.

Better place to look is somewhere like Cambodia or Thailand, temperature ranges between 25 at night and 35 in the day, everyday, all year. This time of year it's hitting near 40 during the day. Cambodia has only 3 cases so far, 2 were tourists, and one local who interacted with the tourist.

Problem with Cambodia and Thailand is they live on the tourism, if there are more cases there I'm sure they are being swept under the rug as pnuemonia, as the lack of money for mass testing and fear of the loss of tourists is stronger than acknowledging the problem.