Covid 19 - We are all screwed - discuss

[illuminati]

Australia is not a good example as it is heading into winter and temperatures are going down. It's also a massive country with wildly different temperatures. Tropical heat all year in the north and cold in the south. Also in places like Sydney, temps vary a lot from day to day. Like in summer one day can be 45 then the next day 23. I guess you can look at how many get infected in the north vs south.

Better place to look is somewhere like Cambodia or Thailand, temperature ranges between 25 at night and 35 in the day, everyday, all year. This time of year it's hitting near 40 during the day. Cambodia has only 3 cases so far, 2 were tourists, and one local who interacted with the tourist.

Good points - Worth keeping a watch on the hotter countries

[Mayday]

It's not all elderly. It will roughly be 10% to 15% dying of them if they all catch it. How soon they catch it might shift those numbers up or down too.

I never said it was all elderly.

The elderly are the most severely affected. The elderly are the most dying. Hence, the data is being skewed by the elderly because that is who is rocking up. That's basic analytics.

The death rate will increase in the elderly as time passes if it is not contained. While hospitals can handle the volume right now, once overrun,  masses will not receive treatment and more deaths will result.

But as i said, millions already have it because it might be 3+ weeks before diagnosis during which they are transmitting to the community. Yet the numbers diagnosed is super small despite widespread infection already according to the modelling.

[illuminati]

Perhaps we’re all going to catch that Virus & all Die
End of Humanity- Anything less than that will be a Positive Result
Let’s all go out Being Happy Then.

One thing is for certain we’re all going to Die - CoronaVirus or Not.

[Tapeworm]

Ive heard that the media made the whole thing up and it's nothing but a flu. In a month people will be complaining that the media conspired to underreport the threat.

But the best one I've heard is that it's a media/ government co-conspiracy designed to legitimize legislation to make you stay home when ordered to. The guy working at the liquor store sees through the onion of lies.

[Army of One]

From Iranian doctors

[Dokey111]

but but but I have symphonies to write and I think I'll fast anyways just to be ironic

[Army of One]

Denmark locked down

AFTER 514 INFECTED, DENMARK GOES INTO ALMOST TOTAL LOCKDOWN - ORDER FROM THE PRIME MINISTER

>ALL SCHOOLS, DAYCARES AND EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS CLOSED FOR 2+ WEEKS STARTING FRIDAY, ALL PUBLIC WORKERS WITHOUT CRITICAL JOBS TO BE SENT HOME FOR 2+ WEEKS WITH PAY. ALL PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS ARE ENCOURAGED TO DO THE SAME.
>NO EVENTS WITH 100+ PEOPLE ALLOWED
>ONLY SELECT FEW COUNTRIES ALLOWED TO BE TRAVELED TO
>ALL HOSPITAL AND NURSING HOMES ARE STRONGLY ENCOURAGED TO HAVE NO VISITORS WHAT-SO-EVER FOR 2+ WEEKS.
>ALL PUBLIC IN-DOOR LIBRARIES, CULTURE INSTITUTIONS (RELIGIOUS SHIT) AND LEISURE ACTIVITIES CLOSED FOR TWO WEEKS BY FRIDAY
>GOVERNMENT LOOKS AT THE POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING MORE RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE WHEN TRAVELING TO DENMARK, SUCH AS FORCED HEALTHCHECK ON ARRIVAL, POSSIBLE FORCED QUARANTINE UPON ARRIVAL FROM RED ZONES, POSSIBLE DENIAL OF ENTRY FROM ORANGE & RED ZONES IF YOU'RE AN IMMIGRANT
>"MORE REQUIREMENTS CAN AND WILL BE PUT IN PLACE IF NECESSARY"

SOURCE: https://jyllands-posten.dk/indland/ECE12003467/danmark-lukker-guy/

[Flexacon]

I never claimed 50% would die, I said 50% wouldn't be available due to quaruntine or sickness, which I clarified and you acknowledged.What you have been wrong about is that you live in some fairytale world where 2% of developed world's population could die, and 10% be hospitalised, and you think it won't have world changing knock on effects on society, the markets,  etc, and it won't impact your life more than any other event so far if it plays out as it could, or even should if you look at the pure maths of it.

You think too short term. Do you think the current systems in place were working? The things you mention infrastructure, supply chains, medical facilities, taxes had reached a tipping point or become unsustainable. Why don't you try look at the maths there.

If this isn't a man made virus then nature has done us  favour. If anything though the virus still isn't lethal enough and systems that need to change probably won't change enough.

You need to take a long term view and stop acting like it's the end of the world. The markets will be fine. It will take a beating, but this isn't a banking crisis where bailouts are needed. It will bounce back far quicker. The extra attention people will now pay to hygiene will mean cases of other bugs and virus will plummet. You would hope countries will learn lessons from this when it come to over reliance on things from China and India. Won't hold my breath on that one though.

[Gregzs]

Juventus star Daniele Rugani, who plays alongside Cristiano Ronaldo for Juventus, has tested positive for Coronavirus

https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/11/juventus-daniele-rugani-cristiano-ronaldo-teammate-positive-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR0xCtTd_N7MC0LZkhuXUqozlj_Ptbm7ew-lCPPsWmoOD8izMaZB0WQJoPg

[Army of One]

Juventus star Daniele Rugani, who plays alongside Cristiano Ronaldo for Juventus, has tested positive for Coronavirus

https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/11/juventus-daniele-rugani-cristiano-ronaldo-teammate-positive-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR0xCtTd_N7MC0LZkhuXUqozlj_Ptbm7ew-lCPPsWmoOD8izMaZB0WQJoPg

That's just put an end to every pro football (soccer) league in Europe carrying on imho.Wont risk players sweating, coughing etc on each other in game, even with no crowds.

[Gregzs]

N.J. coronavirus patient says symptoms are getting worse despite hospitalization, report says

The Fort Lee man who contracted the coronavirus is urging people to take COVID-19 seriously, telling television stations that his symptoms keep getting worse despite the fact that he is a pretty healthy person.

“They are surprised it can be so bad and I’m so young," James Cai, 32, a physician’s assistant, told ABC7.

He told the station that he believes he contracted the virus at a medical meeting at the Westin Hotel in Times Square. When he felt sick a few days later he went to urgent care and then to the emergency room, where medical staff found a small lesion on his lung and tested him for coronavirus, he told ABC7.

Health officials have said that older individuals and those with chronic medical conditions like heart disease and diabetes are at highest risk of getting seriously ill from COVID-19.

But Cai told CBS he doesn’t have any risk factors and his symptoms, including fever, shortness of breath and diarrhea are “getting worse” and Hackensack University Medical Center has a bed in the ICU ready in case he needs it. He said hospital staff told him he should be OK, ABC reported.

The first person to die from coronavirus in New Jersey was a 69-year-old man from Bergen County whom officials said had pre-existing health conditions. The total number of positive cases in the state increased to 15 Tuesday, and there were 20 pending tests at the state lab with another 31 people considered under investigation, New Jersey Department of Health officials said.

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/nj-coronavirus-patient-says-symptoms-getting-worse-despite-hospitalization-report-says.html?utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&utm_campaign=njcom_sf&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR1BsCYWN_9oacmm-CBJEd2ivVZSBdWrhgcrCOZ9ecDyH0RLbXPL5jRdkL0

[loco]

N.J. coronavirus patient says symptoms are getting worse despite hospitalization, report says

The Fort Lee man who contracted the coronavirus is urging people to take COVID-19 seriously, telling television stations that his symptoms keep getting worse despite the fact that he is a pretty healthy person.

“They are surprised it can be so bad and I’m so young," James Cai, 32, a physician’s assistant, told ABC7.

He told the station that he believes he contracted the virus at a medical meeting at the Westin Hotel in Times Square. When he felt sick a few days later he went to urgent care and then to the emergency room, where medical staff found a small lesion on his lung and tested him for coronavirus, he told ABC7.

Health officials have said that older individuals and those with chronic medical conditions like heart disease and diabetes are at highest risk of getting seriously ill from COVID-19.

But Cai told CBS he doesn’t have any risk factors and his symptoms, including fever, shortness of breath and diarrhea are “getting worse” and Hackensack University Medical Center has a bed in the ICU ready in case he needs it. He said hospital staff told him he should be OK, ABC reported.

The first person to die from coronavirus in New Jersey was a 69-year-old man from Bergen County whom officials said had pre-existing health conditions. The total number of positive cases in the state increased to 15 Tuesday, and there were 20 pending tests at the state lab with another 31 people considered under investigation, New Jersey Department of Health officials said.

https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/03/nj-coronavirus-patient-says-symptoms-getting-worse-despite-hospitalization-report-says.html?utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&utm_campaign=njcom_sf&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR1BsCYWN_9oacmm-CBJEd2ivVZSBdWrhgcrCOZ9ecDyH0RLbXPL5jRdkL0

What?  I thought we had already established that the Coronavirus kills fatties.

[friedchickendinner]

Is there a cut and paste contest going on?

[Army of One]

Is there a cut and paste contest going on?

[Twaddle]

What?  I thought we had already established that the Coronavirus kills fatties.

Godspeed SF9100.   

[Teutonic Knight 1]

Juventus star Daniele Rugani, who plays alongside Cristiano Ronaldo for Juventus, has tested positive for Coronavirus

https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/11/juventus-daniele-rugani-cristiano-ronaldo-teammate-positive-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR0xCtTd_N7MC0LZkhuXUqozlj_Ptbm7ew-lCPPsWmoOD8izMaZB0WQJoPg

Mario Mandzukic must be laughing on 10 million euros salary !.

[Army of One]

Trump just banned all EU travel to the United States.Markets are going to get hammered.

[Teutonic Knight 1]

Problem with Cambodia and Thailand is they live on the tourism, if there are more cases there I'm sure they are being swept under the rug as pnuemonia, as the lack of money for mass testing and fear of the loss of tourists is stronger than acknowledging the problem.

Thailand have massive monetary reserves, Thai baht hardly moves !.

[dearth]

poor baby, blaming anyone and everyone

this leadership thing is hard, isn't it?


Trump urged Mnuchin to pressure Fed’s Powell on economic stimulus in explosive tirade about coronavirus

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-urged-mnuchin-to-pressure-feds-powell-on-economic-stimulus-in-explosive-tirade-about-coronavirus/ar-BB1147ft#image=1




this fat orange crap for a face is ugly

[The Scott]

poor baby, blaming anyone and everyone

this leadership thing is hard, isn't it?


Trump urged Mnuchin to pressure Fed’s Powell on economic stimulus in explosive tirade about coronavirus

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-urged-mnuchin-to-pressure-feds-powell-on-economic-stimulus-in-explosive-tirade-about-coronavirus/ar-BB1147ft#image=1




this fat orange crap for a face is ugly

I hope you get it soon and die.  Yup.  I have no problem saying this for you are a disgusting cuckold. 

[Teutonic Knight 1]

"Said a republican who speaks to Trump..."

Hahahahahah. More fake sources, more unverifiable sources. More made up stuff.

Again, do you like being played for a fool?

Mr. Putin will rule Russia for another 16 years, obviously Mr.Trump & his kids will rule Americana to 2016  

[OneMoreRep]

Here's a conspiracy floating around.

Supposedly, Trump has come together with the various media conglomerates to push the Coronavirus agenda in order to create a state of hysteria that will slowly crawl into November. By then, he will announce that along with his "good" friends in the CDC they have come up with a "cure". As a result, the deaths will stop, the tide will turn and he will march towards reelection as the American Hero he is.

"1"

[Army of One]

Here's a conspiracy floating around.

Supposedly, Trump has come together with the various media conglomerates to push the Coronavirus agenda in order to create a state of hysteria that will slowly crawl into November. By then, he will announce that along with his "good" friends in the CDC they have come up with a "cure". As a result, the deaths will stop, the tide will turn and he will march towards reelection as the American Hero he is.

"1"

And the other 194 countries in the world all decide to play along because....?

[visualizeperfection]

Here's a conspiracy floating around.

Supposedly, Trump has come together with the various media conglomerates to push the Coronavirus agenda in order to create a state of hysteria that will slowly crawl into November. By then, he will announce that along with his "good" friends in the CDC they have come up with a "cure". As a result, the deaths will stop, the tide will turn and he will march towards reelection as the American Hero he is.

"1"

This is a bogus theory, my friend.

[LurkerNoMore]

No travel to US from Europe for 30 days.  (a bit too late in the game for that now...)   

The travel photo gig I was going on in April (Paris, Southern Provence, Nice and St Tropez) was cancelled last week.   I and the owner of the travel agency that organized and chartered this trip will still get paid (insurance..) but the economic impact for the state of Florida will be significant.  No Transatlantic cruises will be happening, I was at the Ritz Carlton on the beach for lunch today and the manager told me that they are down 78% now.  He said they are going to start offering a local deal of $99 for 2 nights stay.  Keep in mind spring break is going on right now and there should be NO vacancy on the beach, let alone 78% at the Ritz.

Good news is that if fears are correct, it will wipe out the elderly and those with compromised immune systems.  You can expect an abundance of condos to hit the market in six months here in FL since the majority of the state is old farts.