Covid 19 - We are all screwed - discuss

[Griffith]

South Africa will be in lockdown for 3 weeks.

[Army of One]

18-44yr olds make up the bulk of the new york state cases

https://nypost.com/2020/03/23/new-yorkers-aged-18-44-make-up-bulk-of-coronavirus-cases/

[Rascal full]

I’m not really sure of what is & isn’t going on.
I do believe Their is a Virus & Probably a Horrible One at that,
Though it’s fairly clear there is a lot of miss information & Scaremongering Going On
And there’s very little being said about the Drugs that are showing potential in helping
People - I’d of thought that would be main headline everywhere- Instead it’s just Constantly
Doom & Gloom.
Is There a sinister ulterior motive ? And if so what the hell could it Be ?

Great post, the constant fear mongering has been over played and it is making people suspicious as to the real goings on.

[Megalodon]

Joe Biden has a plan:

[FitnessFrenzy]

[Army of One]

Olympics postponed til 2021

[bigkid]

18-44yr olds make up the bulk of the new york state cases

https://nypost.com/2020/03/23/new-yorkers-aged-18-44-make-up-bulk-of-coronavirus-cases/

What percentage of those are going to ICU or dying?

[joswift]

What percentage of those are going to ICU or dying?

the more people they test the more people they will discover has it, most will recover relatively quickly

[bigkid]

the more people they test the more people they will discover has it, most will recover relatively quickly

Of course.  Iceland has tested the highest percentage of their population and had a .2% mortality rate and .4% of people in intensive care.  And i'm counting the dead guy as being in intensive care.

[Kwon]

Australia and New Zealand now in Lockdown

[Hypertrophy]

We are all gonna die...

Has that been posted in this wacko thread yet?

[fredrollon]

Interesting , if true.

"People are still testing positive for the new coronavirus in Wuhan four days after China said there have been no new cases at the epicenter of its outbreak, a local magazine reported, raising concerns that the virus could still be spreading in the city.

“There are still a few or a dozen asymptomatic people every day,” an unidentified official at the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention said in a Monday article by Caixin, referring to those who have the virus but don’t display any symptoms. “It can’t be determined whether transmission has been completely cut off in Wuhan,” the official said.

People who have caught the virus but don’t display symptoms such as cough, fever and muscle pain have been reported in several countries as the pathogen has spread to almost all parts of the world, killing nearly 14,700 and sickening more than 340,000. These asymptomatic carriers appear to be able to transmit the virus to others, according to experts, complicating efforts to stop its spread.

Unlike other countries like South Korea, which counts everyone who’s tested positive as a confirmed case, China does not include asymptomatic infections in its official count. It also does not disclose the number of people in this category, raising concerns that its much-publicized drop to zero new cases last week cannot be taken at face value."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-23/wuhan-still-finding-symptom-free-virus-cases-caixin-reports

[chaos]

the more people they test the more people they will discover has it, most will recover relatively quickly

The answer in it's simplest form. All this panic and shutting down state/countries is ridiculous.

[Desolate]

Interesting , if true.

"People are still testing positive for the new coronavirus in Wuhan four days after China said there have been no new cases at the epicenter of its outbreak, a local magazine reported, raising concerns that the virus could still be spreading in the city.

“There are still a few or a dozen asymptomatic people every day,” an unidentified official at the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention said in a Monday article by Caixin, referring to those who have the virus but don’t display any symptoms. “It can’t be determined whether transmission has been completely cut off in Wuhan,” the official said.

People who have caught the virus but don’t display symptoms such as cough, fever and muscle pain have been reported in several countries as the pathogen has spread to almost all parts of the world, killing nearly 14,700 and sickening more than 340,000. These asymptomatic carriers appear to be able to transmit the virus to others, according to experts, complicating efforts to stop its spread.

Unlike other countries like South Korea, which counts everyone who’s tested positive as a confirmed case, China does not include asymptomatic infections in its official count. It also does not disclose the number of people in this category, raising concerns that its much-publicized drop to zero new cases last week cannot be taken at face value."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-23/wuhan-still-finding-symptom-free-virus-cases-caixin-reports

Whistleblowers and residents in Wuhan say China is lying about lack of new cases of coronavirus.

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Most of us greeted the news from China that there were no new cases in Wuhan with a grain of salt. It turns out that our suspicious skepticism was warranted. From Yahoo News:

Even before COVID-19 became a global crisis, Chinese leaders had been criticized for their handling of the situation and lack of transparency about the disease’s progression. Things now look like they’re on the upswing, and businesses even appear to be headed back to work — but whistleblowers and local officials tell Caixan that’s just a carefully crafted ruse.

Beijing has spent much of the outbreak pushing districts to carry on business as usual, with some local governments subsidizing electricity costs and even installing mandatory productivity quotas. Zhejiang, a province east of the epicenter city of Wuhan, claimed as of Feb. 24 it had restored 98.6 percent of its pre-coronavirus work capacity.

But civil servants tell Caixan that businesses are actually faking these numbers. Beijing had started checking Zhejiang businesses’ electricity consumption levels, so district officials ordered the companies to start leaving their lights and machinery on all day to drive the numbers up, one civil servant said. Businesses have reportedly falsified staff attendance logs as well — they “would rather waste a small amount of money on power than irritate local officials,” Caixan writes.

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[Desolate]

And I don't trust this prick.

Fauci Love Letter to Hillary Clinton Surfaces….

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/03/20/fauci-love-letter-to-hillary-clinton-surfaces/

[illuminati]

The answer in it's simplest form. All this panic and shutting down state/countries is ridiculous.

x2 This is my Thoughts Also & Get them malaria medications chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine and the two HIV drugs, lopinavir and ritonavir out there Asap to the hospitals to help people.

[pellius]

The answer in it's simplest form. All this panic and shutting down state/countries is ridiculous.

Exactly. Personal hygiene and being aware of your surroundings and other people and taking the appropriate precautions, restricting foreign travel and borders... People are more aware than ever before in history the importance of hygiene and being aware of what you touch and where you touch. We are much safer from all communicable diseases than ever before. Shutting down the country and ruining the economy and people's ability to make a living will do far more harm than good. More lives will be ruined and lost than this virus will do.

I don't know anybody that has this virus and nobody I know knows anybody that has this virus either. Those that I see on the news with the virus either show no symptoms or are far from dying. Virtually everybody I know has lost their job or have it severely impacted their employment. My sister who is a flight attendant had her hours cut by 40% (she's been a flight attendant for 30 years).

[Hypertrophy]

Not going to read all 80 pages here to see if it has been posted already, but this is a graphical representation of Farr's law . The total number of cases is the same (area under the curve), barring a sudden cure. Every disease known to man does this. The "flattening" of the curve just, in theory, slows down admissions to the hospital. But since we really don't know how severe the disease actually is, this is just a guess. Maybe most people normally wouldn't go to the hospital because the symptoms are not as bad as the scaremongers have you believe.

The panic and hysteria  is far worse than the actual virus. We can thank certain politicians for that for that and their accomplices in the media. The collapse of the US economy will lead to far more damage. But we all knew that.

[illuminati]

Not going to read all 80 pages here to see if it has been posted already, but this is a graphical representation of Farr's law . The total number of cases is the same (area under the curve), barring a sudden cure. Every disease known to man does this. The "flattening" of the curve just, in theory, slows down admissions to the hospital. But since we really don't know how severe the disease actually is, this is just a guess. Maybe most people normally wouldn't go to the hospital because the symptoms are not as bad as the scaremongers have you believe.

The panic and hysteria  is far worse than the actual virus. We can thank certain politicians for that for that and their accomplices in the media. The collapse of the US economy will lead to far more damage. But we all knew that.

So in that Graphic it peaks much higher & quicker & also fades away quicker without the Measures in place
- With the exception of Loss of Life it’s a Preferable situation. 

[Army of One]

So in that Graphic it peaks much higher & quicker & also fades away quicker without the Measures in place
- With the exception of Loss of Life it’s a Preferable situation. 

Not really, the chaos from hospitals overloading would be insane.Car crash victims who need blood, pregnant women with complications, people with severe asthma attacks, kids falling in to diabetic coma, cancer patients not getting diagnosed or treated etc etc.Would soon turn to rioting, looting, complete breakdown of society.

[illuminati]

Not really, the chaos from hospitals overloading would be insane.Car crash victims who need blood, pregnant women with complications, people with severe asthma attacks, kids falling in to diabetic coma, cancer patients not getting diagnosed or treated etc etc.Would soon turn to rioting, looting, complete breakdown of society.

Yes - Possibly you’re correct- Though we are seeing in some places ( if the various reports are correct) looting & Robberies / muggings already escalating.
If this lockdown business carries on I could also see a Complete Breakdown of Society Happening-
Hopefully I’ll be Wrong on that.

[Mayday]

My neighbours are doctors working in a major hospital.

I had a chat with one yesterday and asked what he was really seeing.

He said it's a mess. They get 8,000 people in but only 40 test positive. He said the killer is having to treat all 8,000 as if they are positive. On top of that, these same people coming in are stealing all their supplies and they have run out.

8,000 rock up with symptoms but only 40 give a positive?  How accurate are these tests?

Does one conclude the most contageous virus ever is not very contageous whilst at the same time less contageous viruses are rampant?  

Or is it more sensible to conclude the virus is already everywhere but the tests are extremely narrow in it's ability to confirm a positive?

[Army of One]

Yes - Possibly you’re correct- Though we are seeing in some places ( if the various reports are correct) looting & Robberies / muggings already escalating.
If this lockdown business carries on I could also see a Complete Breakdown of Society Happening-
Hopefully I’ll be Wrong on that.

I agree, its very possible, even if the curve does stay flattened.The lure of empty stores will be too tempting for some.At the sametime the response by police/army/public would be whatever punishment they got they deserved.I suspect all the PC leftist nonsense has gone out the window for now.

[chaos]

My neighbours are doctors working in a major hospital.

I had a chat with one yesterday and asked what he was really seeing.

He said it's a mess. They get 8,000 people in but only 40 test positive. He said the killer is having to treat all 8,000 as if they are positive. On top of that, these same people coming in are stealing all their supplies and they have run out.

8,000 rock up with symptoms but only 40 give a positive?  How accurate are these tests?

Does one conclude the most contageous virus ever is not very contageous whilst at the same time less contageous viruses are rampant?  

Or is it more sensible to conclude the virus is already everywhere but the tests are extremely narrow in it's ability to confirm a positive?

Makes sense, the media has everyone believing that the gas bubble in their gut from drinking to much the night before is a symptom of corona and they should get tested. The problem isn't the number of cases, the problem is the panic caused by the media that creates the overflow of douchenozzles into the hospitals.

[Dave D]

Not really, the chaos from hospitals overloading would be insane.Car crash victims who need blood, pregnant women with complications, people with severe asthma attacks, kids falling in to diabetic coma, cancer patients not getting diagnosed or treated etc etc.Would soon turn to rioting, looting, complete breakdown of society.

Army, outside of the pregnant woman, wouldnt everyone you described die anyway, based on what we know about how this virus attacks the weak and that 80% of theo worlds population is going to be infected  unless there is an approved cure?