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« Reply #2450 on: April 01, 2020, 03:09:41 PM »
60 Minutes Australia:

Just two weeks ago the head of Emergency at Wuhan Central hospital went public, saying authorities had stopped her and her colleagues from warning the world.  She has now disappeared, her whereabouts unknown.



https://twitter.com/60Mins/status/1244211674439016449

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« Reply #2451 on: April 01, 2020, 03:10:40 PM »
60 Minutes Australia:

Just two weeks ago the head of Emergency at Wuhan Central hospital went public, saying authorities had stopped her and her colleagues from warning the world.  She has now disappeared, her whereabouts unknown.



https://twitter.com/60Mins/status/1244211674439016449

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« Reply #2452 on: April 01, 2020, 03:12:40 PM »
No vaccine has been developed yet as best as I know. I read in the newspaper today that the virologists are working on this via a test methodology for those who have recovered or were absent symptoms. When they get this worked out, it will be a game changer.

WTF's a newspaper?

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« Reply #2453 on: April 01, 2020, 03:14:40 PM »
Whistleblowing coronavirus doctor at Wuhan hospital mysteriously vanishes

By Amanda Woods

April 1, 2020

A Chinese doctor who claimed her bosses tried to silence her early warnings about coronavirus appears to have disappeared — stirring fears that she was detained, according to new reports.  Ai Fen had pointed out cases of the illness to colleagues at Wuhan Central Hospital, eight of whom were reprimanded themselves.


“Just two weeks ago the head of Emergency at Wuhan Central hospital went public, saying authorities had stopped her and her colleagues from warning the world,” the outlet tweeted. “She has now disappeared, her whereabouts unknown.”

In a now-deleted essay published in China’s People (Renwu) magazine titled “The one who supplied the whistle,” Ai detailed her boss’ efforts to silence her, RFA reported.

In the article, Ai said the reprimand came after she took a photo of a patient’s test results and circled the positive “SARS coronavirus” result in red.

China has been accused of attempting to cover up the coronavirus outbreak before the crisis escalated.

Back on Dec. 30, Dr. Li Wenliang — who worked with Ai and who died in early February — sent out a warning over the WeChat messaging app advising fellow med school grads to wear protective clothing to avoid infection after several patients from a local seafood market exhibited symptoms similar to SARS.


https://nypost.com/2020/04/01/whistleblowing-coronavirus-doctor-mysteriously-vanishes/

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« Reply #2454 on: April 01, 2020, 03:16:53 PM »
WTF's a newspaper?

Apparently, it is something you've never read.  ;D

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« Reply #2455 on: April 01, 2020, 03:30:19 PM »
60 Minutes Australia:

Just two weeks ago the head of Emergency at Wuhan Central hospital went public, saying authorities had stopped her and her colleagues from warning the world.  She has now disappeared, her whereabouts unknown.



https://twitter.com/60Mins/status/1244211674439016449

Didn't some big time billionaire disappear over there a few weeks back for calling out the lying government?

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« Reply #2456 on: April 01, 2020, 03:45:33 PM »
See....there's no middle ground with you. It's either someone is 100% for or they are against something 100%. I actually give very little thought to the communist Chinese. There are other more pressing things to think about. Like staying alive.

Read your own posts from years ago, you were much less radical than you are now. Maybe you just don't see it. 

Prime if China didn’t screw the whole world with this virus your main concern wouldn’t be whether your daughter was sick and was potentially putting everyone in the house at risk.

I think you’re a better guy than you get credit for on here and I know you enjoy stirring the pot but sometimes you’re a little peculiar.

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« Reply #2457 on: April 01, 2020, 04:12:39 PM »
See....there's no middle ground with you. It's either someone is 100% for or they are against something 100%. I actually give very little thought to the communist Chinese. There are other more pressing things to think about. Like staying alive.

Read your own posts from years ago, you were much less radical than you are now. Maybe you just don't see it. 

It’s pathetic how ignorant you are even now.  China lied to the world.   And your deranged TDS - you
Just can’t escape it’s grasp.   

F off w this crap.   Disgusting how you left wing freaks carry communist Chinese lies.  F off.

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« Reply #2458 on: April 01, 2020, 04:31:02 PM »
I still think we're dealing more with the potential no of deaths not the actual no of deaths.

But then, no number of deaths matters to you guys, it isn't a problem, and it cannot ever be a problem.

Am I wrong? Show me a number you're uncomfortable with.

How many potential deaths in the US in the next 3 months would you NOT be ok with and would have you agree that actions need to be taken.

That is not a fair question as you are asking someone to approve a certain number of deaths. The fact is that there is always a trade-off. If we lowered the speed limit to 25 mph and force car manufacturers to build cars like tanks then absolutely millions of lives would be saved. But we don't do that because the economic cost to society would not be worth. So it would be like me asking you that if you don't agree with these new standards then you don't care about human life. Because the suffering and deaths due to poverty are not as quantifiable as something like a pandemic it's always easy to make this kind of argument.

How many people that are forced to be homeless and no longer able to support themselves and their families are you comfortable with? How many businesses that fail and therefore unable to provide jobs and products our society needs are you comfortable with?

All of life are a series of trade-offs and it's rarely between good and bad but between bad and worse.

How about you? Do you still have a job? If so, lucky you. Screw those who don't. If you've been laid off and have no income coming in how long do you think you can last before you start thinking about your life and the other lives that are in your situation?

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« Reply #2459 on: April 01, 2020, 04:33:41 PM »
It’s really fascinating when you just look at the facts.

Here in the states we are still talking about not overwhelming the hospitals, which is good, but no one is able to get the equipment they need.

This virus is so devastating that it’s an emergency shut down of everything but we can’t figure out how to have a couple of production facilities stay in business and produce what we a actually need.....

Haven't you been following the news? That's exactly what we are doing. The auto industry are retooling to produce more ventilators. Others are retooling to produce face masks. I just saw on TV that a company that had to shut down found that they have to products to make hand sanitizers.

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« Reply #2460 on: April 01, 2020, 04:35:52 PM »
I don’t think anyone should die. Ever.

If we ban guns, for everyone: civilians, law enforcement and military that will cut down on deaths.

If we ban automobiles, again for everyone, that will cut down on deaths.

If we ban unhealthy food, like fried chicken dinner, deaths will be lowered. I wish we could ban heart disease and obesity. And Cancer.

Oh and abortions.

The real problem, chickendinner, is that the public and our leadership are being misled and manipulated. If the decision is to shut down the economy for the betterment of the country that is fine.

But we can’t do that and then have the Governor of New York say he can’t the respirators he needs FROM CHINA, the very country that introduced the disease, because he is bidding against 49 other states.

We also can’t read about an American company like Starbucks flying leadership into China to negotiate opening 6000 new stores while this is all going on.

So if you really think this is still about preserving lives there is nothing that anyone will say that can change your mind.

Good points but it is about saving lives which is why the cure can't be worse than the disease.

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« Reply #2461 on: April 01, 2020, 04:43:37 PM »
It’s pathetic how ignorant you are even now.  China lied to the world.   And your deranged TDS - you
Just can’t escape it’s grasp.  

F off w this crap.   Disgusting how you left wing freaks carry communist Chinese lies.  F off.

Brutal meltdown over the internet.
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« Reply #2462 on: April 01, 2020, 04:45:09 PM »
Where it came from...



Direct link:

https://youtu.be/eJsmG4rxCSw

"Chinese scientific paper has been ignored, we now know the virus escaped from a Wuhan lab…" - Tucker Carlson

The coronavirus came from either the Wuhan CDC or Wuhan Institute of Virology. The study concluded the deadly virus came out of local laboratories in Hubei Province. The smoking gun in the study is the link to horseshoe bats which are not sold in local markets and not native to Wuhan.

 

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« Reply #2463 on: April 01, 2020, 04:47:30 PM »
I beg to differ. I’ve been to China many times on business: Beijing, Chengdu, Shanghai, Leshan, Tangshan, etc. Gotten to know many people there. I have only heard good things about the USA and some pretty nasty things about the Chinese government.

I gave a tech talk at CASIC, a Chinese aerospace institute. I dealt directly with members of the Communist Party leadership. Some of the slimiest bastards I have ever encountered. Contrast that with my dealings in Washington DC with members of the Executive branch - no comparison at all. While US politicians may be dirtbags at times the leadership of the CCP is downright evil.

Exactly! That's "classic joswift" to make moral equivalences with issues he knows nothing about.

He has zero experience and knowledge about China and the difference between its people and its government. The difference between Shanghai and Beijing and the majority of rural China. Yet, feels qualified to speak with authority in his customary arrogance and conceit, and exaggerated sense of innate brilliance.

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« Reply #2464 on: April 01, 2020, 04:56:13 PM »
Haven't you been following the news? That's exactly what we are doing. The auto industry are retooling to produce more ventilators. Others are retooling to produce face masks. I just saw on TV that a company that had to shut down found that they have to products to make hand sanitizers.

Good points but it is about saving lives which is why the cure can't be worse than the disease.

Pellius I honestly have not turned on the actual news since last week. I can’t deal with the conflicting/misinformation and other nonsense.

I am glad we are actually producing the equipment we need, I read that Fanatics stopped making baseball jerseys and they were making masks and scrubs. But I have also read where we are still dealing with China on getting supplies. I get it, they’re needed and beggars can’t be choosers but it’s still infuriating.

And I agree the cure can’t be worse than the disease, but if we as a country have decided on a course of action that is for everyone’s benefit we need to make sure EVERYONE, poor and rich, insignificant and “important”, is following the same rules.

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« Reply #2465 on: April 01, 2020, 04:56:52 PM »
I had posted as much in another thread, though what I had heard was that covid19 was created artificially I have no idea if that's actually true and it doesn't really matter anyway.

I think it does matter. If true it puts the spotlight more on China and just what are they up to. Knowing the truth of the matter is never a bad thing.

A short segment in this article with Tucker Carlson posing some interesting questions.

https://www.blabber.buzz/conservative-news/828466-tucker-carlson-airs-report-claiming-coronavirus-probably-orriginated-from-a-laboratory-in-wuhan-special?utm_source=c-alrt&utm_medium=c-alrt-email&utm_term=c-alrt-Yahoo&utm_content=3DwlYw-nbPRU93lfLEi1tR0wS

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« Reply #2466 on: April 01, 2020, 05:00:36 PM »
I hope you gag on your own vomit.

Nice fantasy. How does it compare to the times you've gagged on another man's cock pumping his man-goo down your willing and eager throat?

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« Reply #2467 on: April 01, 2020, 05:05:49 PM »
1000 deaths two days in the row now for US, that is twice as many as 2 days ago and 4 times as many as a week ago.


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« Reply #2468 on: April 01, 2020, 05:09:17 PM »
China is exporting millions of cheap surgical mask !.

But is trying to get hands on high quality medical equipment's from Australia since February 2020.

Aust Post & Customs stop-ed hundreds of those parcel mailed for China by "loyal Aussie Chings".


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« Reply #2469 on: April 01, 2020, 05:22:04 PM »
1000 deaths two days in the row now for US, that is twice as many as 2 days ago and 4 times as many as a week ago.



Did you think they’d be going down?

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« Reply #2470 on: April 01, 2020, 05:28:43 PM »
Did you think they’d be going down?

How long do you reckon they will keep doubling?


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« Reply #2471 on: April 01, 2020, 05:31:13 PM »
1000 deaths two days in the row now for US, that is twice as many as 2 days ago and 4 times as many as a week ago.



Thanks, abacus

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« Reply #2472 on: April 01, 2020, 05:36:17 PM »
How long do you reckon they will keep doubling?



Well I reckon based on the bell curve, exponentially until we are all dead in a month.

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« Reply #2473 on: April 01, 2020, 05:40:57 PM »
Fake news.

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« Reply #2474 on: April 01, 2020, 05:41:19 PM »
Pellius I honestly have not turned on the actual news since last week. I can’t deal with the conflicting/misinformation and other nonsense.

I am glad we are actually producing the equipment we need, I read that Fanatics stopped making baseball jerseys and they were making masks and scrubs. But I have also read where we are still dealing with China on getting supplies. I get it, they’re needed and beggars can’t be choosers but it’s still infuriating.

And I agree the cure can’t be worse than the disease, but if we as a country have decided on a course of action that is for everyone’s benefit we need to make sure EVERYONE, poor and rich, insignificant and “important”, is following the same rules.

I understand. But you just have to siphon through B.S. and try to make your best decision. Also, it can be entertaining. During his daily briefing, Trump brought up Mike Lindell, the My Pillow guy, as an example of how private industry is stepping up to help with the cause.
He has retooled and has already produced 50,000 new face masks. What was hilarious was how the Left went bonkers because Mike Lindell invoked God in his speech. Mike is a recovering drug addict and attributes God to saving him and getting a new lease on life.
Nothing about producing 50,000 facemasks and helping the country get through this, only his religious beliefs. I wonder what these Leftist are doing to help in this cause?