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« Reply #2475 on: April 01, 2020, 05:53:08 PM »
Fake news.


American Fake News media somehow reminds me of baby crying Mike Mentzer !.

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« Reply #2476 on: April 01, 2020, 05:54:30 PM »
Ted Cruz, Maria Bartiromo discuss whether the coronavirus originated in Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory

https://noqreport.com/2020/04/01/ted-cruz-maria-bartiromo-discuss-whether-the-coronavirus-originated-in-wuhan-national-biosafety-laboratory/



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« Reply #2477 on: April 01, 2020, 05:59:28 PM »
....meanwhile



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/how-trump-has-contradicted-himself-in-his-own-words-on-the-coronavirus-crisis/ar-BB122Fry

How Trump has contradicted himself, in his own words, on the coronavirus crisis

It appeared to be an attempt to rewrite history -- his own.

President Donald Trump took a newly dire tone at the latest White House briefing and contradicted many of his previous assessments on how he's talked about and handled the novel coronavirus.

It came as his White House medical experts unveiled their own death projections for the first time, revealing that they estimate the virus will kill 100,000 to 240,000 Americans at a minimum -- and only if the nation practices strict social distancing.

And that's being called the "best-case scenario."

a man wearing a suit and tie: President Donald Trump speaks during the daily briefing on the novel coronavirus, COVID-19, in the Brady Briefing Room at the White House, March 31, 2020, in Washington, DC.© Mandel Ngan/AFP via Getty Images President Donald Trump speaks during the daily briefing on the novel coronavirus, COVID-19, in the Brady Briefing Room at the White House, March 31, 2020, in Washington, DC.
MORE: Trump's coronavirus team to reveal sobering data that drove decision to extend restrictions
Trump said the prospect of 100,000 deaths was "sobering" but then went on to call it "a very low number," compared to the 2.2. million it could have been if the U.S. did "ride it out" without mitigation efforts -- as he said some of his "friends" suggested. He cast it as a success of sorts.


While the coronavirus may have silently spread across the country for the past ten weeks, President Trump has insisted that the virus is "under control," and later suggested the economic fallout will be worse than the death toll.

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Trump on Tuesday defended any prior rosy assessments about the coronavirus, describing himself as a "cheerleader for the country" who wants to "give people hope."

But all the mixed messaging has created confusion over how serious the situation really is.

Here are a few examples -- side by side -- of how he has contradicted himself -- in his own words:

Donald Trump standing in front of a crowd: President Donald Trump speaks during a campaign rally, Friday, Feb. 28, 2020, in North Charleston, S.C.© Patrick Semansky/AP President Donald Trump speaks during a campaign rally, Friday, Feb. 28, 2020, in North Charleston, S.C.
From signaling U.S. cases ‘close to zero’ to 100K being "a very low number"

The president initially downplayed the impact the virus would have on Americans, telling CNBC on Jan. 22, two days after the first reported cases on American soil, that "it’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine."

Feb. 26 -- Coronavirus task force briefing: "We're going very substantially down, not up." the president said, as the number of Americans infected with the virus grew to 60. "When you have 15 people and the 15 within a couple days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."
March 31 -- Coronavirus task force briefing: "A hundred thousand is, according to modeling, a very low number. I asked this a while ago, they said, ‘it's unlikely you will be able to attain that’ -- I think we are doing better than that," he said. "When you look at it could have been 2.2 million people died and more if we did nothing, if we just did nothing," adding the country has "done a great job."
From the virus will 'disappear' to the worst problem 'probably ever seen'

Trump previously suggested that coronavirus cases would drop as the weather warmed up. Now he’s signaling that 100,000 deaths would be considered a victory.

Feb. 27 -- Cabinet Room meeting: "One day -- it’s like a miracle -- it will disappear. And from our shores, we -- you know, it could get worse before it gets better. It could maybe go away. We’ll see what happens. Nobody really knows," Trump said.
March 31 -- Coronavirus task force briefing: "I want every American to be prepared for the hard days that lie ahead." Trump said he anticipates the pandemic will be "the worst thing the country has probably ever seen."
MORE: 5 mixed messages from Trump that have marred his administration's coronavirus response
a person holding a sign posing for the camera: President Donald Trump points to a graphic, flanked by Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Anthony Fauci, right, during the daily briefing on the novel coronavirus, COVID-19, at the White House, March 31, 2020.© Mandel Ngan/AFP via Getty Images President Donald Trump points to a graphic, flanked by Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Anthony Fauci, right, during the daily briefing on the novel coronavirus, COVID-19, at the White House, March 31, 2020.
From several flu comparisons to ‘it’s not the flu’

While the number of infected Americans grew exponentially, President Trump repeatedly compared COVID-19 to the flu, even as health officials warned the novel virus appeared to be both more lethal and contagious. From his own packed rallies in February to just last Friday in the White House Briefing Room, the president said, "call it a flu."

Feb 26 -- Coronavirus task force briefing: "This is a flu. This is like a flu," Trump repeated. "It's a little like the regular flu that we have flu shots for. And we'll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner."
March 31 -- Coronavirus task force briefing: President Trump acknowledged for the first time, "it’s not the flu. It’s vicious."
MORE: Fact Check: Trump’s coronavirus response plagued with misstatements
From "packed churches" on Easter to "very painful" two weeks ahead

When stocked tumbled and jobless claims broke records last week, the president urged Americans to get back to work and insisted the country wasn’t built to be closed. Even after the White House initially proposed its social distancing guidelines on March 16, Trump more vocal in the coming days that the country "wasn't built to be shut down" -- an argument he has appeared to have since dropped.

Anthony S. Fauci wearing a suit and tie: Vice President Mike Pence gestures to a monitor as he speaks about the coronavirus in the James Brady Press Briefing Room of the White House, March 31, 2020.© Alex Brandon/AP Vice President Mike Pence gestures to a monitor as he speaks about the coronavirus in the James Brady Press Briefing Room of the White House, March 31, 2020.
March 24 -- Fox News Town Hall: Trump said he envisioned "packed churches" on Easter, April 12. "It’s such an important day for other reasons, but I’d love to make it an important day for this. I would love to have the country opened up, and raring to go by Easter."
March 31 -- Coronavirus task force briefing: A somber Trump told Americans, "We’re going to start seeing some real light at the end of

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Re: Coronavirus - We are all screwed - discuss
« Reply #2478 on: April 01, 2020, 06:01:26 PM »
Has anyone bothered to tell "dearth" that Trumps approval rating is at an all time high? :D
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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« Reply #2479 on: April 01, 2020, 06:05:56 PM »
I understand. But you just have to siphon through B.S. and try to make your best decision. Also, it can be entertaining. During his daily briefing, Trump brought up Mike Lindell, the My Pillow guy, as an example of how private industry is stepping up to help with the cause.
He has retooled and has already produced 50,000 new face masks. What was hilarious was how the Left went bonkers because Mike Lindell invoked God in his speech. Mike is a recovering drug addict and attributes God to saving him and getting a new lease on life.
Nothing about producing 50,000 facemasks and helping the country get through this, only his religious beliefs. I wonder what these Leftist are doing to help in this cause?

I did hear about this as well. I was actually impressed Mike Lindell called for America to turn back to God. I’m sure he’s mocked but good for him living out his faith. Dudes lived an insane life.

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« Reply #2480 on: April 01, 2020, 06:15:12 PM »
Has anyone bothered to tell "dearth" that Trumps approval rating is at an all time high? :D

Don't bother.

He's living in his own world. ::)

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« Reply #2481 on: April 01, 2020, 06:21:25 PM »
I understand. But you just have to siphon through B.S. and try to make your best decision. Also, it can be entertaining. During his daily briefing, Trump brought up Mike Lindell, the My Pillow guy, as an example of how private industry is stepping up to help with the cause.
He has retooled and has already produced 50,000 new face masks. What was hilarious was how the Left went bonkers because Mike Lindell invoked God in his speech. Mike is a recovering drug addict and attributes God to saving him and getting a new lease on life.
Nothing about producing 50,000 facemasks and helping the country get through this, only his religious beliefs. I wonder what these Leftist are doing to help in this cause?
Some leftists and LGBTQ react like demons when you invoke the name of God or Jesus Christ. Very strange behavior! Their lack of faith is indeed disturbing.

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« Reply #2482 on: April 01, 2020, 06:22:10 PM »
Will there be a root cause corrective action for this pandemic to make sure China or any other third work doesn't cause a global pandemic?

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« Reply #2483 on: April 01, 2020, 06:23:30 PM »
Why should I learn a new "tune" when my "tune" is right on the money. It's old to you because it's true and you don't like hearing it. How you shove your gay and sexual agenda down everyone's throats here. You think it's a coincidence that the only gay person that the majority of the people on this board have an issue with is with YOU!

Oh, I'm sorry, you weren't talking to me and I just "horned" in. What a hypocritical prissy little phag you are. Inserting yourself into everything that goes on here is what you mainly do. And this is a public forum. People bring up subjects or discuss topics and everybody is free to jump in. What a crybaby soggy, old, queer you are. I thought you said you were having fun with me? Sure you are. That's what everybody says when they are getting their ass handed to them which I do with you on a regular basis.

And you want me to go back and list all the offensive posts you've made on this board? Really?

Like I always say when you get called out by others for your perversions, you are just absolutely clueless. You really genuinely have no idea why the majority of people here find you repulsive. You think you can casually and blithely talk about sucking a cock through a hole in the wall or not wanting to spend time with your dying wife going through dialysis and not get judged on that.

Clueless.

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« Reply #2484 on: April 01, 2020, 06:52:37 PM »
Has anyone bothered to tell "dearth" that Trumps approval rating is at an all time high? :D



"dearth" is just another angry old Saggy from San Jose .............

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« Reply #2485 on: April 01, 2020, 07:04:15 PM »
1000 deaths two days in the row now for US, that is twice as many as 2 days ago and 4 times as many as a week ago.



That’s good news then! 1000 deaths on consecutive days isn’t exponential growth. It’s zero growth.Then again twice as many from two days ago is only geometric growth, not even close to an exponential function. Looking at these numbers you posted it’s practically arithmetic growth- nothing to worry about epidemiologically.

Hypertrophy- guy who actually studied math in school

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« Reply #2486 on: April 01, 2020, 07:31:57 PM »
See inside the first coronavirus field hospital being set up in N.J.


As cases of the coronavirus continue to rise and hospitals begin becoming overloaded with patients, New Jersey is preparing to open its first pop-up field hospital to help handle the surge.

The U.S. Army Corp of Engineers has been constructing the site at the Meadowlands Exposition Center in Secaucus. Officials say it should open sometime next week.

Three other sites will follow — in Edison, Atlantic City, and another to be determined. Each will have 250 beds.

It can’t come soon enough. New Jersey has at least 22,255 cases of COVID 19, including 355 deaths. That’s the second-most in the U.S., after New York state.

Meanwhile, state Health Commissioner Judith Persichilli said Wednesday hospitals in North Jersey are already beginning to see a surge in patients, with seven hospitals reporting “divert” status on Tuesday.

Persichilli continued to express confidence the state will be able to handle the surge, but she stressed the state needs more ventilators.

She also said the new Secaucus field hospital will be available for “lower-acuity patients who can be safely transferred” there. That would free up more space at existing hospitals for coronavirus patients.

https://www.nj.com/news/j66j-2020/04/4deda912901449/covid19-oem-and-national-guard-set-up-meadowlands-field-medical-station.html?utm_content=nj_facebook_njcom&utm_campaign=njcom_sf&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2AbCQ9uNjC4pcgYRcXgLZ1RTuIOvRdGgawOdBLNs05YWxB1WlQPzfgoK8

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« Reply #2487 on: April 01, 2020, 07:34:06 PM »
Prime if China didn’t screw the whole world with this virus your main concern wouldn’t be whether your daughter was sick and was potentially putting everyone in the house at risk.

I think you’re a better guy than you get credit for on here and I know you enjoy stirring the pot but sometimes you’re a little peculiar.

I always knew I was a little peculiar. -Needed someone to remind me. As for being a better person than I get credit for being....that's debatable.  ;D

In the sense that the virus had to start somewhere and it appears to have begun in China at this point, I you are correct. China did screw the whole world. Guess that's better than if it started in the U.S. and it was us who screwed the whole world. Gotta look at the bright side of things.

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« Reply #2488 on: April 01, 2020, 11:57:46 PM »
That’s good news then! 1000 deaths on consecutive days isn’t exponential growth. It’s zero growth.Then again twice as many from two days ago is only geometric growth, not even close to an exponential function. Looking at these numbers you posted it’s practically arithmetic growth- nothing to worry about epidemiologically.

Hypertrophy- guy who actually studied math in school

If you go from 1,000 deaths on Monday and adding then another 1,000 death on Tuesday isn't that growth, as in the growth of people dying? Just like if I made $1,000 on Monday and another $1,000 on Tuesday isn't my income increasing, i.e., growing?

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« Reply #2489 on: April 02, 2020, 12:08:02 AM »

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« Reply #2490 on: April 02, 2020, 01:12:44 AM »
If you go from 1,000 deaths on Monday and adding then another 1,000 death on Tuesday isn't that growth, as in the growth of people dying? Just like if I made $1,000 on Monday and another $1,000 on Tuesday isn't my income increasing, i.e., growing?

That’s what you call linear growth. Pandemics usually exponentially grow then plateau for a bit like you suggest then exponentially decay.  Problem we are facing at the moment is simply kicking the can down the road until a vaccine is manufactured.  Lifting quarantine in times of an exponential decay could lead us back to square one.

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« Reply #2491 on: April 02, 2020, 01:28:09 AM »
That’s what you call linear growth. Pandemics usually exponentially grow then plateau for a bit like you suggest then exponentially decay.  Problem we are facing at the moment is simply kicking the can down the road until a vaccine is manufactured.  Lifting quarantine in times of an exponential decay could lead us back to square one.

We just need to kick the can down for 1-1,5 more years!

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« Reply #2492 on: April 02, 2020, 01:59:57 AM »

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« Reply #2493 on: April 02, 2020, 02:19:40 AM »
  Lifting quarantine in times of an exponential decay could lead us back to square one.

Like how China just had to shut down a province due to a breakout.

Either pray herd immunity will work and you heal quick with oodles of dead. Or.you shut up shop, make all average people unemployed, send all average joe broke and drag it out for 6mths-9mths.

They fucked us all proper good. Give it another month where people really hit the wall and lets see.which country.riots first.

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« Reply #2494 on: April 02, 2020, 02:23:06 AM »
Like how China just had to shut down a province due to a breakout.

Either pray herd immunity will work and you heal quick with oodles of dead. Or.you shut up shop, make all average people unemployed, send all average joe broke and drag it out for 6mths-9mths.

They fucked us all proper good. Give it another month where people really hit the wall and lets see.which country.riots first.

UK has tried both, tried herd immunity, fucked it up , now lockdown

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« Reply #2495 on: April 02, 2020, 02:27:02 AM »
Like how China just had to shut down a province due to a breakout.

Either pray herd immunity will work and you heal quick with oodles of dead. Or.you shut up shop, make all average people unemployed, send all average joe broke and drag it out for 6mths-9mths.

They fucked us all proper good. Give it another month where people really hit the wall and lets see.which country.riots first.

Long-term lockdowns would cause far worse long-term damage.


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« Reply #2496 on: April 02, 2020, 02:51:06 AM »
Like how China just had to shut down a province due to a breakout.

Either pray herd immunity will work and you heal quick with oodles of dead. Or.you shut up shop, make all average people unemployed, send all average joe broke and drag it out for 6mths-9mths.

They fucked us all proper good. Give it another month where people really hit the wall and lets see.which country.riots first.

If relax extreme curtailment measures, then exponential rate of spread increases again, so hospitalizations increase again.  If don’t relax it then strangle the economy into a Great Depression and more people die of pestilence than from the virus. This is way too exaggerated to make sense.  This is too convenient and organised.

I received txts today of construction workers being fined by the police 1600$ For eating lunch too close together.  Keep chipping away at humanities morale and lock them in cages, see what the end result curtails.  The only thing that prevents an implosion our debt bubble, fractional reserves economies is the Public confidence in them.  Once the stampede for the exits of trust are triggered in the herd it could be a rout of epic proportions.

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« Reply #2497 on: April 02, 2020, 03:08:55 AM »
Not just one text but plural....of course you did....because every construction worker knows when they get fined thousands for sitting too close the first thing to do is text "the oak"... ::)

You got me, caught red handed spreading mis-information.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-police-issue-fines-for-alleged-breaches-of-public-health-act-in-nsw-australia/ef767578-b86e-4545-af32-572f7df2644a

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« Reply #2498 on: April 02, 2020, 04:23:20 AM »
You claimed to have received texts detailing construction workers who were fined $1600 for sitting next to each other. The news item you just posted bears virtually no resemblance. Fail.

Yep.

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« Reply #2499 on: April 02, 2020, 04:45:20 AM »
This is way too exaggerated to make sense.  This is too convenient and organised.

Well, i'd believe China created it.

As for a massive global conspiracy, no way. The odds of that are miniscule because they couldnt all organise such a grand scheme due to the sheer number involved across the world. Not gunna happen.