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Re: Economic Impact Will Be Far Greater Than The Corona Death Toll
« Reply #75 on: March 16, 2020, 04:45:00 AM »
As an investor, we love panic. Its panic that produces volatility, which in turn creates very rare and very profitable opportunities.

Really, would there  be more coconuts & bananas on palms in tropical Queensland !.

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Is Corona virus an excuse to reset the global economy?
« Reply #76 on: March 16, 2020, 11:12:40 AM »
It seems governments are all about shutting down and disrupting all businesses. This is going to crush all aspects of the economy.  Seems the ultra rich will be able to pick up assets for pennies on the dollar and even further strengthen their fortunes.  Something doesn’t seem legit about all of this panic for just 2500 deaths globally. 

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Re: Is Corona virus an excuse to reset the global economy?
« Reply #77 on: March 16, 2020, 11:16:39 AM »
It seems governments are all about shutting down and disrupting all businesses. This is going to crush all aspects of the economy.  Seems the ultra rich will be able to pick up assets for pennies on the dollar and even further strengthen their fortunes.  Something doesn’t seem legit about all of this panic for just 2500 deaths globally. 
Coronavirus Cases:
179,761
Deaths:
7,070
Recovered:
78,287

The issue is how fast it spreads unlike the flu  and the fact that there is no vaccine for it,
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Re: Is Corona virus an excuse to reset the global economy?
« Reply #78 on: March 16, 2020, 11:18:59 AM »
It seems governments are all about shutting down and disrupting all businesses. This is going to crush all aspects of the economy.  Seems the ultra rich will be able to pick up assets for pennies on the dollar and even further strengthen their fortunes.  Something doesn’t seem legit about all of this panic for just 2500 deaths globally.  

It's all going according to their plan.

Fire all the peons.
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Re: Is Corona virus an excuse to reset the global economy?
« Reply #79 on: March 16, 2020, 11:25:41 AM »
It seems governments are all about shutting down and disrupting all businesses. This is going to crush all aspects of the economy.  Seems the ultra rich will be able to pick up assets for pennies on the dollar and even further strengthen their fortunes.  Something doesn’t seem legit about all of this panic for just 2500 deaths globally. 
Good points, ok your numbers are flawed but still, definitely a possibility...

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Re: Is Corona virus an excuse to reset the global economy?
« Reply #80 on: March 16, 2020, 11:30:17 AM »
Coronavirus Cases:
179,761
Deaths:
7,070
Recovered:
78,287

The issue is how fast it spreads unlike the flu  and the fact that there is no vaccine for it,

Since you brought up the flu, for comparison here's last week's report on the 2019-20 US Influenza Season , from the Centre for Disease Control and Prevention.


"Laboratory confirmed influenza associated hospitalization rates for the overall U.S. population remain moderate compared to recent seasons, but rates for children 0-4 years and adults 18-49 years are now the highest CDC has on record for these age groups, surpassing rates reported during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic. Hospitalization rates for school-aged children (5-17 years) are higher than any recent regular season but remain lower than rates experienced by this age group during the pandemic.

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Pneumonia and influenza mortality has been low, but 144 influenza-associated deaths in children have been reported so far this season. This number is higher for the same time period than in every season since reporting began in 2004-05, except for the 2009 pandemic.

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CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 36 million flu illnesses, 370,000 hospitalizations and 22,000 deaths from flu."

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm



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Re: Is Corona virus an excuse to reset the global economy?
« Reply #81 on: March 16, 2020, 11:55:10 AM »
Since you brought up the flu, for comparison here's last week's report on the 2019-20 US Influenza Season , from the Centre for Disease Control and Prevention.


"Laboratory confirmed influenza associated hospitalization rates for the overall U.S. population remain moderate compared to recent seasons, but rates for children 0-4 years and adults 18-49 years are now the highest CDC has on record for these age groups, surpassing rates reported during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic. Hospitalization rates for school-aged children (5-17 years) are higher than any recent regular season but remain lower than rates experienced by this age group during the pandemic.

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Pneumonia and influenza mortality has been low, but 144 influenza-associated deaths in children have been reported so far this season. This number is higher for the same time period than in every season since reporting began in 2004-05, except for the 2009 pandemic.

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CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 36 million flu illnesses, 370,000 hospitalizations and 22,000 deaths from flu."

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm



100% Agree i only view the cdc site and thats why i think this shit is being blow way out of  proportion
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Re: Is Corona virus an excuse to reset the global economy?
« Reply #82 on: March 16, 2020, 12:01:29 PM »
In the stock market its called consolidation. The super wealthy induce stock selloffs for the sole purpose of manipulating the price of stocks they simply want more of. Selloff in the middle of the night and when the value of said stock plummets move back in and buy up at pennies on the dollar. Evil as fuck if you ask me. I dont even know how its legal but apparently it is.

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Re: Coronavirus - Stock Market Crash / Economic Impact
« Reply #83 on: March 16, 2020, 02:37:31 PM »
The corona virus will bankrupt more people than it kills,


There are two existing drugs that have been found to treat this virus positively, one is a HIV drug the other a drug used to treat malaria. They are already using it in some countries and they have established that they work.
But good news doesn't sell.

Do you have a link to more information about this?

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Re: Coronavirus - Stock Market Crash / Economic Impact
« Reply #84 on: March 16, 2020, 02:56:53 PM »
LOL


Fed lowers interest rate for Banks to 0%


What happens to John Q Public's mortgage rate?... 4%... ROFL!!!


Can't make this shtt up folks....


This ain't capitalism, this is some demonic oligarchy corportacracy type shitz where the rich get richer and everyone else goes broke

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Re: Coronavirus - Stock Market Crash / Economic Impact
« Reply #85 on: March 16, 2020, 06:29:04 PM »


When rates were truly low in 2012 the banks were taking months and months to close loans in hopes the rate went up.


why you should do your deals with a local broker who can close in 2-3 weeks  ;D and the pricing is way better too. I

banks are taking 4-6 months to do a refinance right now and even longer since many banks have 1000s of employees in call centers trying to process them and these offices will soon be closed  -

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Re: Coronavirus - Stock Market Crash / Economic Impact
« Reply #86 on: March 16, 2020, 06:34:05 PM »
LOL

Fed lowers interest rate for Banks to 0%

What happens to John Q Public's mortgage rate?... 4%... ROFL!!!


its more complex than meets the eye
the fed cutting rates is more short term lending, mortgages are long term and typically mirror the 10 Year US Treasury, and the biggest movement of mortgage rates are the buyers and sellers of the Mortgage backed securities on the second market.

today was fucking nuts - priced out deals but could not lock them in. I have been working 10+ hours a day to keep up with the demand.



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Re: Coronavirus - Stock Market Crash / Economic Impact
« Reply #89 on: March 16, 2020, 10:51:06 PM »
its more complex than meets the eye
the fed cutting rates is more short term lending, mortgages are long term and typically mirror the 10 Year US Treasury, and the biggest movement of mortgage rates are the buyers and sellers of the Mortgage backed securities on the second market.

today was fucking nuts - priced out deals but could not lock them in. I have been working 10+ hours a day to keep up with the demand.


No.. its just 100% absolute bullshit by greed infested bankers


The banks will never let the mortgage rate back to fed fund rates, as Fed is giving them free money.

How in the world banks can lose money when Fed giving money free to them and the banks give us zero in return while charging middle america 3.5% on mortgages?!

If Fed wants to save economy, give the home buyers low apr loans directly, not via banks.

Avoid middle men and brokers.


FED reduction in rates to 0% was not meant for middle and low income citizens or lower mortgage rates.
It is for the elite and 1% society and their businesses.


Golden Rule-Those with the gold make the rules.


oh.. but just fckin wait..

Just wait til home prices start crashing. They'll fast track you like you're a Hollywood star.



I have a family friend at at a huge bank that has recently been at the center stage of controversy.

With that said they are currently using tactics such as long processing times in order to void documents and start the process over again.

There is enough processors but their requirements are lengthy and at the time of finalizing ,documents are either expired or missing when an underwriter is reviewing them.

They really are just snakes trying to nickle and dime you.....

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Re: Coronavirus - Stock Market Crash / Economic Impact
« Reply #90 on: March 16, 2020, 10:59:02 PM »
Do you have a link to more information about this?

The two drugs are Chloroquine and Lopinavir, they have been using them in both South Korea and Japan, both drugs are already registered for use with malaria and HIV just not for Coronavirus so they are being used effectively without actual medical consent in this instance, but check the mortality rates against Chian and Italy where they havent.

Now as I can't be bothered can you please advise every doom and gloomer on this site that the world is not ending, that there are existing drugs and also measured vaccines ready to go, they are all just held up in government red tape, which in my experience will kill more people than any disease.


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Re: Coronavirus - Stock Market Crash / Economic Impact
« Reply #91 on: March 17, 2020, 01:27:42 AM »

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Re: Coronavirus - Stock Market Crash / Economic Impact
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Re: Coronavirus - Stock Market Crash / Economic Impact
« Reply #94 on: March 17, 2020, 02:00:37 PM »
(((monetizing debt)))

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Re: Coronavirus - Stock Market Crash / Economic Impact
« Reply #95 on: March 17, 2020, 02:02:06 PM »
Fixed:

It seems governments are all about shutting down and disrupting all businesses. This is going to crush all aspects of the economy.  Seems the ultra rich Getbiggers will be able to pick up assets for pennies on the dollar and even further strengthen their fortunes.  Something doesn’t seem legit about all of this panic for just 2500 deaths globally. 

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Re: Coronavirus - Stock Market Crash / Economic Impact
« Reply #96 on: March 18, 2020, 08:09:07 AM »

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Re: Coronavirus - Stock Market Crash / Economic Impact
« Reply #97 on: March 18, 2020, 08:20:02 AM »
The two drugs are Chloroquine and Lopinavir, they have been using them in both South Korea and Japan, both drugs are already registered for use with malaria and HIV just not for Coronavirus so they are being used effectively without actual medical consent in this instance, but check the mortality rates against Chian and Italy where they havent.

Now as I can't be bothered can you please advise every doom and gloomer on this site that the world is not ending, that there are existing drugs and also measured vaccines ready to go, they are all just held up in government red tape, which in my experience will kill more people than any disease.



totally agree, this will blow over,   and for all you fuck tards that  think the world is ending

"ITS NOT LIKE THE U.S AND THE SOVIET UNION ARE LOBBING NUKES AT EACH OTHER"  ,  then i would be worried  :)

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Re: Coronavirus - Stock Market Crash / Economic Impact
« Reply #98 on: March 18, 2020, 08:25:28 AM »
good one

good video, this guy speaks with common sense,  btw

if the goverment gives airlines, etc bail out ,  "these cock roaches should not be allowed to do any stock buy backs for many years" 

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Re: Coronavirus - Stock Market Crash / Economic Impact
« Reply #99 on: March 18, 2020, 08:40:07 AM »

Yeah, their stock went from $300 to almost $600 and she just couldn't get out. I was screaming at him to get half into a money market and take their gains in a safe position, but that's not sexy enough for them. Pigs get slaughtered.

That’s the game. Insiders create an illusion of never ending upward prices and when pullbacks do a occur people figure the price will go back to its former high except that one time, now, when it doesn’t.


This is some good reading. I’ll bet it’s selling a ton these days:

Manias, Panics, and Crashes: A History of Financial Crises, Seventh Edition
Book by Charles P. Kindleberger and Robert Z. Aliber