Coronavirus - Stock Market Crash / Economic Impact

[Thin Lizzy]

The black death killed the working population pushing up wages, this is killing the old retired generation, big difference.

What’s killing the old retired generation is what has always been killing them, the underlying conditions:



https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/new-york-coronavirus-cases-updates.html

The first minor in NYC with a case of the coronavirus has died

The city reported the death of its first patient under the age of 18 on Monday. Like the vast majority of patients who have passed away, the city reported that the minor had an underlying condition. Of the 790 deaths in the city, 777 patients had underlying conditions, which, according to the city’s definition, include diabetes, lung disease, cancer, immunodeficiency, heart disease, hypertension, kidney disease, and asthma.

[Mayday]

I explained how the testing scam works and was proven right. If you’re still buying into the bullshit you’re just a fucking Mark and beyond help.

So you believe every govt, every central bank, every medical person is in on this conspiracy of yours.

Ok, no prob man. i'll leave you be.

[Thin Lizzy]

So you believe every govt, every central bank, every medical person is in on this conspiracy of yours.

Ok, no prob man. i'll leave you be.

So you think all of the central banks are inflating trillions of dollars in unison but there’s no coordination? Like I said, you’re a mark.

That do you think every single medical person has to be in on it shows how little you know about how the world works. Orders come from a few people at the top and everybody else has to follow along or they suffer consequences. To repeat, you’re a mark.

[Mayday]

So you think all of the central banks are inflating trillions of dollars in unison but there’s no coordination? Like I said, you’re a mark.

Everyone is already pegged to USD. Central banks have been printing in unison for decades. I know you already know this.

The problem for you conspiracy nuts is you can't get past level 1 because of the number of people required to make it work.

Even now, you ignored that basic question and switched topics because you know it makes no sense.

It's ok dude. Im not going to be rude to you about it.

[Thin Lizzy]

Everyone is already pegged to USD. Central banks have been printing in unison for decades. I know you already know this.

The problem for you conspiracy nuts is you can't get past level 1 because of the number of people required to make it work.

Even now, you ignored that basic question and switched topics because you know it makes no sense.

It's ok dude. Im not going to be rude to you about it.

The Euro is pegged to the dollar? This is news to me.

And I answered your question. You just don’t want to accept the answer. The overwhelming majority of people are just pawns and get their orders from a few people at the top, it doesn’t take that many.

On one hand you say there’s no coordination on the other hand you said they’re inflating in unison for decades. Which one is it?

Apparently you’re from Australia right? Being from a penal colony one would be think you’re more familiar with scams.

[FitnessFrenzy]

The Euro is pegged to the dollar? This is news to me.

I don't think so...

[keanu]

There has to be a global financial reset after this. Every country is going into unpayable debt if we have to wait another 12-18 months for a vaccine to be developed, tested, and dispensed to the entire world.

[TheGrinch]

There has to be a global financial reset after this. Every country is going into unpayable debt if we have to wait another 12-18 months for a vaccine to be developed, tested, and dispensed to the entire world. --

and have everyone micro-chipped and do away with physical money

[Mayday]

The Euro is pegged to the dollar? This is news to me.

The overwhelming majority of people are just pawns and get their orders from a few people at the top, it doesn’t take that many.

Apparently you’re from Australia right? Being from a penal colony one would be think you’re more familiar with scams.

Well you just learned something. Perhaps you shouldn't base your conspiracy around a system that you aren't clear on how it is behaving today? Just a thought.

So you have managed a global conspiracy before? Could you say which one?

As for the jab at my heritage, well that's not very nice lol.

Look, im happy to debate if other posters feel it is of use to them but if we are only spamming threads to simply go at each other i will pass and i will leave you be.

[visualizeperfection]

Well you just learned something. Perhaps you shouldn't base your conspiracy around a system that you aren't clear on how it is behaving today? Just a thought.

So you have managed a global conspiracy before? Could you say which one?

As for the jab at my heritage, well that's not very nice lol.

Look, im happy to debate if other posters feel it is of use to them but if we are only spamming threads to simply go at each other i will pass and i will leave you be.

Pussy.

Continue at each other. We are bored.

[Thin Lizzy]

Pussy.

Continue at each other. We are bored.

He calls me a conspiracy nut and then when I hit him back he bitches and cries about having a civil debate.

[SF1900]

Pussy.

Continue at each other. We are bored.

X2

[honest]

Pussy.

Continue at each other. We are bored.

x 3 

[SOMEPARTS]

There has to be a global financial reset after this. Every country is going into unpayable debt if we have to wait another 12-18 months for a vaccine to be developed, tested, and dispensed to the entire world.

Sorry to bust up your post but...

It appears there will be no vaccine as this is a virus and mutates quickly...there are hundreds of strains of coronavirus, it's not new. Like the flu every year they might try and approximate what might be effective but there will be no be all end all vaccine. Any talk of this seems a bit suspicious when you look at who is saying it.

Every major country/central bank was already in un-payable debt and facing a demand issue/global slowdown that would destroy the perpetual growth model that was keeping the shell game going.

[Mayday]

He calls me a conspiracy nut and then when I hit him back he bitches and cries about having a civil debate.

Nah, it gets old fast as you suggest you know how to rollout a global conspiracy. You said it only takes a few but couldn't explain how you know this.

You reached the limit of your knowledge and then refused to answer questions and make attacks. So, i can't keep debating with you because you are at your limit. It's ok dude.

[Mayday]

He calls me a conspiracy nut and then when I hit him back he bitches and cries about having a civil debate.

Ok fine.
 I'll even throw you a lifeline below that i posted in the other thread as this is what you should have been posting to backup your argument that it's a 'hoax'.

What you should now do is go and find the same dataset for the US.

Data is reported from Jan 2020 up to the 20th March 2020 for UK deaths.

Jan 2020 = -1,409  vs the previous 5yr average
Feb 2020 = -2,696 vs the previous 5yr average
Mar 20th 2020 = -717 vs the previous 5yr average
**data set shows first 3 months tracking below the total death average over the previous 5yrs.

It's safe to say we didn't see any impact in Jan or Feb.

March can be argued coming out of Winter, flu season influences to the data reduce so we should see a balancing out anyway. Therefore i don't see the uptick being influenced with 'hidden' Rona deaths.

[Thin Lizzy]

Ok fine.
 I'll even throw you a lifeline below that i posted in the other thread as this is what you should have been posting to backup your argument that it's a 'hoax'.

What you should now do is go and find the same dataset for the US.

Data is reported from Jan 2020 up to the 20th March 2020 for UK deaths.

Jan 2020 = -1,409  vs the previous 5yr average
Feb 2020 = -2,696 vs the previous 5yr average
Mar 20th 2020 = -717 vs the previous 5yr average
**data set shows first 3 months tracking below the total death average over the previous 5yrs.

It's safe to say we didn't see any impact in Jan or Feb.

March can be argued coming out of Winter, flu season influences to the data reduce so we should see a balancing out anyway. Therefore i don't see the uptick being influenced with 'hidden' Rona deaths.

Am I missing something here? Your own data confirms that corona has not had an impact on overall deaths yet somehow I’m a conspiracy nut for pointing out that there’s got to be something else going on? I agree with you 1000% mortality rates is the most important number. It shows that deaths for underlying causes are now being labeled as corona.

That seems to be a common thread here in the US. Anybody asks a remotely tough question about this they’re labeled a conspiracy nut.

I actually did look up this data. Apparently, you need some sort of special permission to get mortality rates. There might be some other way.  I’ll keep looking.

As far as the limit of my knowledge, I don’t claim to know every single detail about this. No one does. But we just had a stimulus package in this country that’s almost twice the size of the GDP of yours. It’s 840 pages long and they somehow managed to put it together in a week. You have to be hopelessly naïve do not think that there’s something else going on.

[Thin Lizzy]

Nah, it gets old fast as you suggest you know how to rollout a global conspiracy. You said it only takes a few but couldn't explain how you know this.

You reached the limit of your knowledge and then refused to answer questions and make attacks. So, i can't keep debating with you because you are at your limit. It's ok dude.

No, what actually happened is that you presented a narrative with which I disagree, as if a nurse has be in on the scam. I’m not gonna argue according to your rules. I don’t owe you jack shit. Even in this last comment you’re being a condescending dick.


But here’s a lifeline for you. I live in New York City. I know all the neighborhoods that are supposedly hotspots for corona. They’re not places that Chinese nationals would go. Their places they would avoid.

These places don’t even have a very high population density. Where I live has one of the highest population densities in the city. Hundred to 200 apartment co-ops and condos on every block yet we’ve had very few cases.

What these so-called hotspots do have in common is that they’ve always had very poor health outcomes:


Bronx Residents Twice as Likely to Die From COVID-19 in NYC

http://thecity.nyc/2020/04/bronx-residents-twice-as-likely-to-die-from-covid-19-in-nyc.html

Pre-existing Conditions
Public health experts say it’s likely The Bronx’s elevated death rate is tied to the borough’s high rates of diabetes, asthma and hypertension, some of the nine illnesses linked with coronavirus complications.

Despite longtime efforts by health advocates and elected officials to change course, the borough ranks last among New York State’s 62 counties in the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation’s survey of health outcomes, including premature death.

The Bronx logs more ER visits for asthma than in any county in the state. The Centers for Disease Control and World Health Organization have classified people with asthma as high risk.

[Thin Lizzy]

Japan was late to the dance because of the Olympics. Got to play catch-up:

Japan economy: Shinzo Abe has $1 trillion coronavirus relief plan - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/06/economy/japan-economic-stimulus-coronavirus/index.html

[Griffith]

The stock market will recover, as it does every single time in modern history after every disaster.

Economic damage to countries, especially poorer ones, that could be a lot worse.

[FitnessFrenzy]

[nzgs]

This virus will keep coming back, just like influenza, in various new strains. People acting like only big pharma and vaccines can save us are useful idiots desperate to throw away their freedoms for the illusion of safety. There is no singular flu vaccine to prevent the thousands of flu deaths that occur by the same mechanism as covid (pneumonia), so what makes people think a vaccine can save them? There has been no talk of improving public health during this event. Mandating higher animal protein consumption, banning junk food sales, banning drugs, all of these things would drastically reduce the population of vulnerable diseased people. Authorities have no interest in improving pubic health, they want you scared and desperate for whatever big medicine panacea they offer you.

[Mayday]

Am I missing something here?

The broader theme.is that it isn't enough to merely say 'the monetary system will reset' and claim victory when it happens at some point during your lifetime. Let alone claim a fake gobal pandemic is created to cause it on purpose.

What im saying is the difference is you made a broad statement whereas i searched and pulled the data and then made the statement. I'm in a more solid position for debate, purely because i know more. Like you, US data was fucking impossible to get. I was pulling some from the UN. I pulled Italy's 2018 and 19 data from the UN. I couldn't find squat for 2020.  I have seen journlists extrapolate corona data from Lombardia but that's a bad idea. Better to get the national statistics.

We agree on the data as you said. Im of the opinion it was a knee jerk reaction based on initial bad data from China and amplified by our PC culture driving actions of a.worst case scenario. You believe the virus is a hoax created by financial powers. For arguments sake, we get a pandemic, stocks crash, a billionaire buys a company cheap and you conclude the billionaire created a global pandemic hoax so he could buy that company cheap. It's along those lines.

As for monetary systems, i track my country's currency, M3, interest rates, median house prices, average salary by month back to 1970. I have data for other countries but i don't track as much as i do my own but it's all similar trends. You don't need to read an 840 page QE document, just know the topline numbers and you see what the system can handle.

[Mayday]

On a news note, so many spastics jumped into the sharemarket our reserve bank said they are reducing QE lol.

Idiotic, record.breaking rallies during a global pandemic that has shut down the entire globe. People about to get burned hard.

[FitnessFrenzy]