Meth aging face of peace

[Agnostic007]

Meth destroyed my youngest brother.  Like most fools, he began with marijuana as his gateway drug of choice but like most dopers he was always in search of a higher "high".  He was the best looking boy of all of us.  Very handsome, blond with blue eyes, square jawline and a decent physique without ever picking up a weight.

The meth turned him into the Mummy.  He would get, for lack of a better term, weirded out and ultimately threatened our mother.  In the past I had shut him down by holding him and tightening my hold with every breath he took. I did not allow him to pass out but instead assured him that I would treat him as a garbage can.  He knew what that meant as when  I was a bouncer (I am not smart but I was working) a man told me he was going to harm me so I told him to watch and proceeded to pick up a STEEL garbage can (this is the 70s, mind you) and bear hug it until it was crushed nearly flat to my chest.  With ease.  The man left immediately.  My brother would calm down almost as fast as that man left.  I love my brother still.

Ultimately I had my littlest brother  arrested (for again threatening our mom) and dried out.  When he was finally released, he was able to get his old job back and we thought all was fine until he took his own life.  He could not deal with reality and so ended his.  I despise drugs and even though marijuana is "legal" I will NEVER start down that path.  Neither do I drink alcohol for much the same reason.  I don't force my ways on anyone.

Meth will end your life and not gracefully.  There is a member here that thinks my having my youngest brother arrested was betrayal.  He sometimes says stupid stuff just to try and upset me.  He is not my brother.  Many of you are and it is my hope and if I were still a believer, my prayer that those here I call "brother" stay away from stuff like meth.

Enough preaching from me. In all ways and for always, be well my brothers.

Sorry about your brother. I can't even imagine what you and your family went through

[Bevo]

Rather do 8 grams of gear

[johnnynoname]

damn


.....this thread really makes me want to do meth now

[Tapeworm]

I shouldn't say this since some people seem to get hooked in easily but I didn't enjoy meth as much as others claim to. Tried it and simply never went back to it. Declined it a few times since. The best I can say about it is that I didn't feel sleepy. I don't consider that a high. Other people working from the same bag claimed it was great. I've had similar experiences with coke. I just don't give a shit about amphetamines even tho people rave about them.

Weed was fun for awhile but became either boring or paranoia inducing. I liked shrooms and lsd but never experienced the hallucinations which people claim to get. Intensely introspective, which is good but frankly kind of hard work so be ready for a trip and don't embark on one lightly.

Never tried opiates. Might one day but am put off by reports of how happy they make people. Just like meth folk can't feel decent unless they take meth, I wouldn't want to zap my system and be unable to experience any joy without opiate assistance. Btw, this leads me to question if you could zap your system the opposite way. What if you intentionally took, and gradually increased, anti-recreational drugs like anxiogenics and things which make you feel pain more accutely? Would you be like Superman when you came off? Naturally in a great mood with amazing pain tolerance? Guess that's kinda krazy.

[harmankardon1]

Yeah I've used it, it's shit imo... Certainly not something that I ever think about or have any need to use again.

We used to occasionally get on the speed back in the day but I hated it, I can't stand not being able to sleep...

We would often get on esctacy, that's a great drug, you get high then three hours later you can take another or go to bed. Cocaine is similar but Imo not nearly as good.

These junkies get hooked because they are suckers, if it wasn't meth it'd be crack or heroin or alcohol.... Whatever.... they're junkies, it's not necessarily the drug.

[harmankardon1]

I shouldn't say this since some people seem to get hooked in easily but I didn't enjoy meth as much as others claim to. Tried it and simply never went back to it. Declined it a few times since. The best I can say about it is that I didn't feel sleepy. I don't consider that a high. Other people working from the same bag claimed it was great. I've had similar experiences with coke. I just don't give a shit about amphetamines even tho people rave about them.

Weed was fun for awhile but became either boring or paranoia inducing. I liked shrooms and lsd but never experienced the hallucinations which people claim to get. Intensely introspective, which is good but frankly kind of hard work so be ready for a trip and don't embark on one lightly.

Never tried opiates. Might one day but am put off by reports of how happy they make people. Just like meth folk can't feel decent unless they take meth, I wouldn't want to zap my system and be unable to experience any joy without opiate assistance. Btw, this leads me to question if you could zap your system the opposite way. What if you intentionally took, and gradually increased, anti-recreational drugs like anxiogenics and things which make you feel pain more accutely? Would you be like Superman when you came off? Naturally in a great mood with amazing pain tolerance? Guess that's kinda krazy.

I have had hallucinations on mushrooms... Mushrooms can be great fun, sitting around laughing for hours at nothing, you keep taking them though and they turn on you pretty quick the paranoia sets in.

But acid for me was more just a high feeling, not too bad, the hang over on acid for me was brutal but I was the only one who used to get such a reaction. It just didn't agree with me so much.

[IroNat]

Meth destroyed my youngest brother.  Like most fools, he began with marijuana as his gateway drug of choice but like most dopers he was always in search of a higher "high".  He was the best looking boy of all of us.  Very handsome, blond with blue eyes, square jawline and a decent physique without ever picking up a weight.

The meth turned him into the Mummy.  He would get, for lack of a better term, weirded out and ultimately threatened our mother.  In the past I had shut him down by holding him and tightening my hold with every breath he took. I did not allow him to pass out but instead assured him that I would treat him as a garbage can.  He knew what that meant as when  I was a bouncer (I am not smart but I was working) a man told me he was going to harm me so I told him to watch and proceeded to pick up a STEEL garbage can (this is the 70s, mind you) and bear hug it until it was crushed nearly flat to my chest.  With ease.  The man left immediately.  My brother would calm down almost as fast as that man left.  I love my brother still.

Ultimately I had my littlest brother  arrested (for again threatening our mom) and dried out.  When he was finally released, he was able to get his old job back and we thought all was fine until he took his own life.  He could not deal with reality and so ended his.  I despise drugs and even though marijuana is "legal" I will NEVER start down that path.  Neither do I drink alcohol for much the same reason.  I don't force my ways on anyone.

Meth will end your life and not gracefully.  There is a member here that thinks my having my youngest brother arrested was betrayal.  He sometimes says stupid stuff just to try and upset me.  He is not my brother.  Many of you are and it is my hope and if I were still a believer, my prayer that those here I call "brother" stay away from stuff like meth.

Enough preaching from me. In all ways and for always, be well my brothers.

That's rough, Sir Scott.

You did what you had to do.

[The Scott]

That's rough, Sir Scott.

You did what you had to do.

Thank you my brother.  I've seen enough of what drugs can do.  My brother was altered by that stuff and while he did not know what he was saying or doing, I did and so I got in the way. 

Not nearly so bad as how my father could be with alcohol, but that is another story.  Be well.

[Gitur]

how can you say all you noticed is that you werent tired? are you fucking kidding me? meth releases the biggest surge of dopamine.. more than any other drug and all you felt was that you werent tired?

if you IV it you literally cum without even touching yourself its that strong.

not saying it is anything to brag about but common, there is a reason why its one of the most addictive drugs out there.

If you havent tried it please dont! its so bad for your body and you will waste away. not worth the rush.

[Tapeworm]

how can you say all you noticed is that you werent tired? are you fucking kidding me? meth releases the biggest surge of dopamine.. more than any other drug and all you felt was that you werent tired?

if you IV it you literally cum without even touching yourself its that strong.

not saying it is anything to brag about but common, there is a reason why its one of the most addictive drugs out there.

If you havent tried it please dont! its so bad for your body and you will waste away. not worth the rush.

Don't know what to tell you. That was my experience. Everyone else who took the exact same batch insisted it was wonderful, so yes, other people really enjoy it. I conclude that there are variations in neurochemistry, possibly psychology, which deliver differing subjective interpretations and I'm aberrant.

One guy I did plastering work for, who happened to be a drug dealer and was blown away when I politely declined to imbibe on the basis that meth doesn't work on me pleasurably but I definitely get its downside for a day afterward, claimed that a feeling of euphoria was common. I've never experienced that feeling, whether on drugs or off, so maybe I'm just not a euphoria kind of guy. Always had sort of a muted response to "fun stuff." Guess I'm a joyless prick, lol.

I don't go around pooping on people's parties tho. Do what you like and it should all be legal imo, since it's your body and no one else's business what you do with it. It just doesn't jazz me.

[The Scott]

Sorry about your brother. I can't even imagine what you and your family went through

Thank you.  I am certain that as a retired LEO you have seen worse than what my family went through with my youngest brother.  One of my brothers just retired from law enforcement and he is much more relaxed now but I know he saw some crap that was awful. 

Fortunately (?), I am too stoopid to have ever had a chance at being a police officer or a firefighter. I have a sense of humor about it, one has to.  They had standards back then and  if one didn't meet the requirement(s) it was with good reason.  I understood but it was frustrating all the same because I was much more powerful and imposing that pretty much every officer I have met over the last few decades.  Was, mind you.  

No, I never met Ronnie Coleman but then his IQ and lack of common sense should have kept him out of law enforcement too.  He's almost as slow as I! 

Almost.  Thank you again for the kind words.

[pamith]

Meth destroyed my youngest brother.  Like most fools, he began with marijuana as his gateway drug of choice but like most dopers he was always in search of a higher "high".  He was the best looking boy of all of us.  Very handsome, blond with blue eyes, square jawline and a decent physique without ever picking up a weight.

The meth turned him into the Mummy.  He would get, for lack of a better term, weirded out and ultimately threatened our mother.  In the past I had shut him down by holding him and tightening my hold with every breath he took. I did not allow him to pass out but instead assured him that I would treat him as a garbage can.  He knew what that meant as when  I was a bouncer (I am not smart but I was working) a man told me he was going to harm me so I told him to watch and proceeded to pick up a STEEL garbage can (this is the 70s, mind you) and bear hug it until it was crushed nearly flat to my chest.  With ease.  The man left immediately.  My brother would calm down almost as fast as that man left.  I love my brother still.

Ultimately I had my littlest brother  arrested (for again threatening our mom) and dried out.  When he was finally released, he was able to get his old job back and we thought all was fine until he took his own life.  He could not deal with reality and so ended his.  I despise drugs and even though marijuana is "legal" I will NEVER start down that path.  Neither do I drink alcohol for much the same reason.  I don't force my ways on anyone.

Meth will end your life and not gracefully.  There is a member here that thinks my having my youngest brother arrested was betrayal.  He sometimes says stupid stuff just to try and upset me.  He is not my brother.  Many of you are and it is my hope and if I were still a believer, my prayer that those here I call "brother" stay away from stuff like meth.

Enough preaching from me. In all ways and for always, be well my brothers.

But if you could go back in time, you would do things differently (I hope)

[The Scott]

But if you could go back in time, you would do things differently (I hope)

If time travel were possible for me, a lot would be changed and by that I mean for the better.  And not just for my family but for our nation and the world in which we live. 

But I just looked in the mirror and I didn't see Doctor Emmet Brown looking back! 

[pamith]

I shouldn't say this since some people seem to get hooked in easily but I didn't enjoy meth as much as others claim to. Tried it and simply never went back to it. Declined it a few times since. The best I can say about it is that I didn't feel sleepy. I don't consider that a high. Other people working from the same bag claimed it was great. I've had similar experiences with coke. I just don't give a shit about amphetamines even tho people rave about them.

Weed was fun for awhile but became either boring or paranoia inducing. I liked shrooms and lsd but never experienced the hallucinations which people claim to get. Intensely introspective, which is good but frankly kind of hard work so be ready for a trip and don't embark on one lightly.

Never tried opiates. Might one day but am put off by reports of how happy they make people. Just like meth folk can't feel decent unless they take meth, I wouldn't want to zap my system and be unable to experience any joy without opiate assistance. Btw, this leads me to question if you could zap your system the opposite way. What if you intentionally took, and gradually increased, anti-recreational drugs like anxiogenics and things which make you feel pain more accutely? Would you be like Superman when you came off? Naturally in a great mood with amazing pain tolerance? Guess that's kinda krazy.

Yeah, kinda like when you had a terrible problem and you feel like you are stuck in hell, the moment the problem is solved, you feel like you are in paradise, and the next day you feel so alive and extremely happy

[pamith]

If time travel were possible for me, a lot would be changed and by that I mean for the better.  And not just for my family but for our nation and the world in which we live. 

But I just looked in the mirror and I didn't see Doctor Emmet Brown looking back! 

I hear time machines may exist

[Gitur]

Don't know what to tell you. That was my experience. Everyone else who took the exact same batch insisted it was wonderful, so yes, other people really enjoy it. I conclude that there are variations in neurochemistry, possibly psychology, which deliver differing subjective interpretations and I'm aberrant.

One guy I did plastering work for, who happened to be a drug dealer and was blown away when I politely declined to imbibe on the basis that meth doesn't work on me pleasurably but I definitely get its downside for a day afterward, claimed that a feeling of euphoria was common. I've never experienced that feeling, whether on drugs or off, so maybe I'm just not a euphoria kind of guy. Always had sort of a muted response to "fun stuff." Guess I'm a joyless prick, lol.

I don't go around pooping on people's parties tho. Do what you like and it should all be legal imo, since it's your body and no one else's business what you do with it. It just doesn't jazz me.

Now that I think about it I can say the exact same thing about opiates be it heroin or oxy. I have snorted heroin and I have taken an oxy but I just ended up flushing the rest of the heroin down the toilet because all it did was make me super sleepy and itchy. I asked myself how the hell people get so addicted to it and why its such a problem.

In your case I would take your experience as a blessing, I was never really hooked on meth per say but the times I did do it I binged hardcore and was up for 3-4 days straight in a living nightmare trying to replicate the initial high which wont ever happen. Thank god ive been clean for a long time now.

[Tapeworm]

Now that I think about it I can say the exact same thing about opiates be it heroin or oxy. I have snorted heroin and I have taken an oxy but I just ended up flushing the rest of the heroin down the toilet because all it did was make me super sleepy and itchy. I asked myself how the hell people get so addicted to it and why its such a problem.

In your case I would take your experience as a blessing, I was never really hooked on meth per say but the times I did do it I binged hardcore and was up for 3-4 days straight in a living nightmare trying to replicate the initial high which wont ever happen. Thank god ive been clean for a long time now.

I've met a couple heroin guys. Danny, an Aussie in London, killed himself with it. Clever enough guy but not very happy. He was a five foot nothing school teacher who hovered around a backpacker's house full of other Aussies. More than anything, I think he was just lonely. I  wondered if the overdose was 100% accidental. Some lost souls there.

Another dude in Belgium used it infrequently as far as I know. Said he enjoyed it but I recall seeing him sitting on some stairs wearing the same expression I have in the kitchen at 430 am when I neglected to set the coffee machine the night before. It just didn't look like any kind of fun. Those guys steered me away from it.

[Methyl m1ke]

The people on here bad mouthing dope are either lying or got bunk shit. Also meth is not well tolerated by the body proof is simple it is prescribed to children for a variety of reasons. Any drug which can be ptescribed to kids has to be very well tolerated. Not eating sleeping or drinking water on the other hand is really bad.

Meth is not a good drug its a great one, too good actually. Addicts have absolutely no control over their addiction. Addiction is a disease and must be treated as such. 

[The Scott]

The people on here bad mouthing dope are either lying or got bunk shit. Also meth is not well tolerated by the body proof is simple it is prescribed to children for a variety of reasons. Any drug which can be ptescribed to kids has to be very well tolerated. Not eating sleeping or drinking water on the other hand is really bad.

Meth is not a good drug its a great one, too good actually. Addicts have absolutely no control over their addiction. Addiction is a disease and must be treated as such.

My personal experience watching my little brother turn into a mummified zombie says otherwise.  It's okay.  People are different and I have no reason to lie but if your experience is unlike mine, that's okay.  I still refuse to take drugs or drink alcohol but as I said, I don't force my ways on others.  Be well.

[Humble Narcissist]

The people on here bad mouthing dope are either lying or got bunk shit. Also meth is not well tolerated by the body proof is simple it is prescribed to children for a variety of reasons. Any drug which can be ptescribed to kids has to be very well tolerated. Not eating sleeping or drinking water on the other hand is really bad.

Meth is not a good drug its a great one, too good actually. Addicts have absolutely no control over their addiction. Addiction is a disease and must be treated as such.

You don't get the "disease" unless you use the drug in the first place.

[joswift]

The people on here bad mouthing dope are either lying or got bunk shit. Also meth is not well tolerated by the body proof is simple it is prescribed to children for a variety of reasons. Any drug which can be ptescribed to kids has to be very well tolerated. Not eating sleeping or drinking water on the other hand is really bad.

Meth is not a good drug its a great one, too good actually. Addicts have absolutely no control over their addiction. Addiction is a disease and must be treated as such.

no it isnt, a disease is something you get which you have no control over, any drug addiction can be overcome.

People take drugs because they have something lacking or wrong in their lives, the drugs are the solution to that problem.

[Humble Narcissist]

no it isnt, a disease is something you get which you have no control over, any drug addiction can be overcome.

People take drugs because they have something lacking or wrong in their lives, the drugs are the solution to that problem.

Even rehab centers use the disease excuse to keep these people from taking responsibility for their lives.  This mentality also installs an identity into a person that is difficult to break out of.  Rehabs have been caught in Florida using halfway houses as sources to give drugs to those recently released from the rehab center so that they have to go back to rehab.  This creates more money for the rehab center, the halfway house and the drug dealers.

[Tapeworm]

Norm Macdonald's "I got alcoholism" is bullseye.

"I go to bars. I drink a lot. I meet women and have sex with 'em. Ya, it's pretty rough."

[Griffith]

The people on here bad mouthing dope are either lying or got bunk shit. Also meth is not well tolerated by the body proof is simple it is prescribed to children for a variety of reasons. Any drug which can be ptescribed to kids has to be very well tolerated. Not eating sleeping or drinking water on the other hand is really bad.

Meth is not a good drug its a great one, too good actually. Addicts have absolutely no control over their addiction. Addiction is a disease and must be treated as such.

You are referring to Ritalin?

[harmankardon1]

Don't know what to tell you. That was my experience. Everyone else who took the exact same batch insisted it was wonderful, so yes, other people really enjoy it. I conclude that there are variations in neurochemistry, possibly psychology, which deliver differing subjective interpretations and I'm aberrant.

One guy I did plastering work for, who happened to be a drug dealer and was blown away when I politely declined to imbibe on the basis that meth doesn't work on me pleasurably but I definitely get its downside for a day afterward, claimed that a feeling of euphoria was common. I've never experienced that feeling, whether on drugs or off, so maybe I'm just not a euphoria kind of guy. Always had sort of a muted response to "fun stuff." Guess I'm a joyless prick, lol.

I don't go around pooping on people's parties tho. Do what you like and it should all be legal imo, since it's your body and no one else's business what you do with it. It just doesn't jazz me.

My experience was similar to yours... It did little for me but keep me awake, made me drink even more than usual and then feel like shit.

It's a drug for pigs Imo,,., the dumber you are you more you like it.