Why Is BIG RAMY Apologizing To ANYONE?????

[Van_Bilderass]

Through the eyes of the fan- boy, it may be so. If you would be able to look him objectively, you would notice that he hasn't any cuts at all. Smooth as a baby = you are far from shape needed to win competitions. Like dozens of times before, I have to remind you that it isn't a size competition. They have clear list of the things which judges will judge, and by that Ramy end up apologizing his placing  

You have no idea what you're talking about, you know jack shit about bodybuilding. I'm not a Ramy "fan" first of all, but the fact of the matter is that he is a practically fat free specimen, the skin thickness on his thighs is like the back of your hand. How muscle "separates" and these so-called "details" are genetic, it's not a conditioning issue. Remember Dorian? He was criticised for the lack of separation in his quads. Had nothing to do with leanness.
Ramy could diet off 50lbs and his thighs would still not separate.

Yes, Ramy can theoretically get slightly leaner and drier, everyone can, but to say he's "smooth as a baby" is ridiculous. A baby doesn't have a striated ass  

Bodybuilding isn't a size only competition but it isn't a leanness only or aesthetics competition either.
Ramy here is leaner than for example the Labradas and Benfattos of yesteryear. Think about what it takes to achieve this level of leanness at this bodyweight.
Fact of the matter is that Ramy didn't lose this show because of conditioning only - the judges feel he is not as aesthetically pleasing as Dex or Bonac.

[Never1AShow]

You have no idea what you're talking about, you know jack shit about bodybuilding. I'm not a Ramy "fan" first of all, but the fact of the matter is that he is a practically fat free specimen, the skin thickness on his thighs is like the back of your hand. How muscle "separates" and these so-called "details" are genetic, it's not a conditioning issue. Remember Dorian? He was criticised for the lack of separation in his quads. Had nothing to do with leanness.
Ramy could diet off 50lbs and his thighs would still not separate.

Yes, Ramy can theoretically get slightly leaner and drier, everyone can, but to say he's "smooth as a baby" is ridiculous. A baby doesn't have a striated ass  

Bodybuilding isn't a size only competition but it isn't a leanness only or aesthetics competition either.
Ramy here is leaner than for example the Labradas and Benfattos of yesteryear. Think about what it takes to achieve this level of leanness at this bodyweight.
Fact of the matter is that Ramy didn't lose this show because of conditioning only - the judges feel he is not as aesthetically pleasing as Dex or Bonac.

Big Hammy need do more heavy squat and leg press

[Van_Bilderass]

Compare the conditioning. Take a good look. Dex was said to have been sliced and diced. Can you objectively say Ramy was smooth as a baby's ass compared to the other two? People jump on these bandwagons without thinking for themselves.
I feel Dex got a gift. No calves, small legs, lumpy delts, thick skin. Bonac won fairly, but if Ramy won it wouldn't have been a scandalous decision.

[Dave D]

Compare the conditioning. Take a good look. Dex was said to have been sliced and diced. Can you objectively say Ramy was smooth as a baby's ass compared to the other two? People jump on these bandwagons without thinking for themselves.
I feel Dex got a gift. No calves, small legs, lumpy delts, thick skin. Bonac won fairly, but if Ramy won it wouldn't have been a scandalous decision.

Van you really think Ramy looks lean and cut in that shot?

Dex does look bad there, he did get a gift.

[Van_Bilderass]

Van you really think Ramy looks lean and cut in that shot?

Dex does look bad there, he did get a gift.

He is very lean but the skin is "thick" on his back and delts. But so is the skin on Dex and Bonac too. This is mostly genetic, remember what Cutler's back looked like? He had problems getting it shredded. Same with Branch. Same with Nasser and many others. Yates probably didn't diet much harder than the rest or juice more, he was just gifted with thin skin that sat so nicely over the muscle.

Like I said, you could always get just a little bit more lean and dry, until you are at the morgue But my main point is that people have crazy expectations for Ramy and they think he "blew it" since he didn't win. But maybe he simply can't get much tighter... there may not be a "problem" as such with his prep. It's easy for us, especially noncompetitors, to say these guys are lazy or just do stupid stuff and miss the fact that this kind of conditioning requires some extreme measures. Back in the day no one had a striated ass, not until Gaspari, Janvier etc. For a 300lb guy to have a striated ass is insane, but expectations are high, and even with this kind of leanness people are disappointed. Some like Lee Priest didn't give a fuck, he was never close to this 

[Van_Bilderass]

More pics.

Morgan Aste probably had the freakiest conditioning on stage. This is another case of a certain genetic look to the skin, not just leanness or perfect loading protocols, though he probably is leaner than everyone else. This kind of physique can actually hold some subcucatenous water and still look crazy conditioned.

Kucklo looks worn out and watery to me but many thought he looked crazy good.

Maxx Charles everyone thought was in insane shape. But from the back is he more conditioned than Ramy or was it more like people didn't expect as much from him?

Johnnie - now he was just plain fat, should never have competed.

Guys, let me know what you think. Am I full of shit in my analysis? My bottom line is that Ramy has much higher expectations than most others. Guys who were in worse shape were praised for their insane conditioning. People jump on a bandwagon of saying Ramy can't come in in shape but it's not based on objective analysis.

One other thing. Ramy and Bonac had the "healthiest" looking muscle in the show. It doesn't look worn out, it looks "young" and healthy, even if Ramy has used plenty of site enhancement. Ramy hasn't yet hit that spot where he has started to obviously go backwards. Bonac is just on the cusp of that starting to happen, you can tell the quads are starting to downsize.

[mazrim]

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I would agree. It is an unjustified critique at this point when actually compared to the other competitors.

[illuminati]

 Van - Agree with some of what you say - Expectation of Ramy I don’t think is higher he’s constantly posting sharpened / enhanced pics before he competes & then looks to have gone backwards Condition wise when he competes - That’s his Fault he doesn’t live up to his fake pics.
He did look good at the Arnold & could’ve Easy been the Winner.
Bonac looked Good Also
Dexter not so good especially in that back pic - not a 2nd Place Physique
Kucklo - Warn Out ? Not in that back pic - better than dex & as sharp as Ramy.
If Morgan can attain that condition then the other can get very close to it,
Strict longer diet & supplements & Exercise can all help achieve that condition,
Yes they all have different genetics to body fat distribution as they do muscle shape
& No of muscle fibres etc.
Excessive GH & Insulin isn’t helping in the shredded shrink wrapped look.

2nd Place would’ve been a fairer placing for Ramy & 3rd For Steve.

[njflex]

Great posts van.observasions on point

[oldschoolfan]

Van you really think Ramy looks lean and cut in that shot?

Dex does look bad there, he did get a gift.

dave van needs to get glasses  and lay off the coke and alcohol

[oldschoolfan]

hey big ramy tards find me one single pic where ramy compares to this, that goat fucker isnt even close to this

[joswift]

that pic was two weeks out

[oldschoolfan]

that pic was two weeks out

yeah no shit, this was before photo shopping was around that big retard ramy never looked like this

[illuminati]

hey big ramy tards find me one single pic where ramy compares to this, that goat fucker isnt even close to this

Dorian didn’t sharpen or enhance his pics either
& actually came in usually in better condition than any of his Pics.
Not so with Ramy - He always looks worse than his Pics.
Not a Smart move.

[Van_Bilderass]

hey big ramy tards find me one single pic where ramy compares to this, that goat fucker isnt even close to this

dave van needs to get glasses  and lay off the coke and alcohol

It's fine to disagree but I don't think you get what I'm saying. I never said Ramy was as good as Dorian. Dorian was unique when it came to skin texture, no one looked like him and that's due mostly to genetics. None of his competition could duplicate his look.

What I am saying is that condition-wise Ramy compares very well to his competition. It's at least as good as Dexter and everyone said Dexter was in crazy good condition for this show. Bonac may have been a tiny bit more crisp in some areas. Morgan Aste was the one guy who clearly beat his competition, not just Ramy but everyone else too. IOW, Ramy didn't blow shit, mistimed loading protocols and this and that are mostly bullshit, he just isn't better than this. Of course everyone can theoretically always be a bit better, even Morgan. Ramy has these crazy expectations on him, the whole of the arab world is behind him. He would probably literally kill himself if that made his fans happy. If he thought 30 grams of gear and 200 units of gh would help him I'm sure he would do it without a second thought. I don't envy his position lol.

Kucklo - Warn Out ? Not in that back pic - better dex & as sharp as Ramy.

This is very subjective but I still think of Steve as "Kuckelo the kid" as gh15 called him. He just seems to have aged a lot to me and kinda has a film of water under his skin, bloofy if you will 

[oldschoolfan]

It's fine to disagree but I don't think you get what I'm saying. I never said Ramy was as good as Dorian. Dorian was unique when it came to skin texture, no one looked like him and that's due mostly to genetics. None of his competition could duplicate his look.

What I am saying is that condition-wise Ramy compares very well to his competition. It's at least as good as Dexter and everyone said Dexter was in crazy good condition for this show. Bonac may have been a tiny bit more crisp in some areas. Morgan Aste was the one guy who clearly beat his competition, not just Ramy but everyone else too. IOW, Ramy didn't blow shit, mistimed loading protocols and this and that are mostly bullshit, he just isn't better than this. Of course everyone can theoretically always be a bit better, even Morgan. Ramy has these crazy expectations on him, the whole of the arab world is behind him. He would probably literally kill himself if that made his fans happy. If he thought 30 grams of gear and 200 units of gh would help him I'm sure he would do it without a second thought. I don't envy his position lol.

This is very subjective but I still think of Steve as "Kuckelo the kid" as gh15 called him. He just seems to have aged a lot to me and kinda has a film of water under his skin, bloofy if you will 

Point well taken but he should not post fake pics going into a show I actually think it hurts him at the show

[Methyl m1ke]

"Big Ramy" is what he is, an attraction and nothing more. He lacks the structure and foundation to go further. He is clueless which is sad, I doubt anyone close to him will tell him the truth. In the back of his.mind though he knows the question is will he bow out gracefully or slide down the ranks.

[SAMSON123]

Criticize all you want... This guy looked great

[che]

Criticize all you want... This guy looked great

He looks like shit

[SAMSON123]

He looks like shit

Well Arnold has his flaws, but I would not say he looks like shit.

Yes Arnolds legs are sorely lacking and the black and white photo hides a lot of details/flaws/imperfections, but at that time this look was acceptable.

[michael arvilla]

Ramy is getting better/improving .... and that’s what counts!

[che]

Ramy is getting better/improving .... and that’s what counts!

Are you sure about that , Mike ?

[Flexacon]

Criticize all you want... This guy looked great

That's the night show where Ramy looked much better. If he looked like that at prejudging he would have won the show.

The fact he is always able to improve considerably between prejudging and the finals show he and coaches are fucking up with last minute protocols. The retard needs to get his shit together or fuck off back to his fishing boat.

[SAMSON123]

That's the night show where Ramy looked much better. If he looked like that at prejudging he would have won the show.

The fact he is always able to improve considerably between prejudging and the finals show he and coaches are fucking up with last minute protocols. The retard needs to get his shit together or fuck off back to his fishing boat.

All of the competitors did not look as good as the night show.... Can't hold that against them.

What would be the purpose of having a day show, then a night show if it was not because of the fact the competitors dry out more at the night show and bring their BEST look to the audience... that is what is being judged

[Ronnie Rep]

Ramy can't hold Markus Ruhl's posing trunks!