Author Topic: Coronavirus - vs the Flu - Flu kills a lot more people - why the hysteria?  (Read 10668 times)

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20,000 plus died from the ordinary flu this year's flu season in the US.  50,000 last year died from pneumonia last year in the US.  We have 205 dead in the US  from Corona upper respiratory illness.  China claims it went down drastically. I don't trust them but South Korea says the same and I do trust them.

Right now we have a medicine (Malaria drug) that stops the virus from multiplying in the body. Making people well a lot quicker. We are in clinical trails on the vaccine. A micro biologist from Israel said that the Corona virus is closely related to SARS.  SARS came on strong but dissipated quick. Hopefully it will follow the same pattern.

  Right now we are heading toward double digit unemployment. The stock market is crashing meaning the eventual massive job loss. GDP will crash.  The fear and hysteria that is complicit news provider driven is causing economic chaos.  Democrats are politicizing this for political advantage. Trump truly has done absolutely unrepresented action against the disease.  A massive amount of money is being thrown at this and flights from China/Europe are cancelled.

Once restaurants, stores, gyms and businesses of all kinds are given the green light to open this economy will come roaring back. People need to lose the fear. In the end even if 40,000 in the end die in the US we have to keep it into perspective. I'm keeping my money in the stock market. I don't' care if it goes down to 12,000.  When it comes back there will be plenty of money to go around for those that don't panic.  

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It is odd that exercise was based on a Coronavirus that was exclusive to bats.

No it is not.  Bats carry over 400 different strains of Corona viruses.  Bats were responsible for SARS, MERS, SADS, etc.  Bats are one of the biggest transmitters of Corona viruses, to humans and other animals.  Therefore, scientists study bats and viral transmissions regularly.  

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20,000 plus died from the ordinary flu this year's flu season in the US.  50,000 last year died from pneumonia last year in the US.  We have 150 dead in the US  from Corona upper respiratory illness.  China claims it went down drastically. I don't trust them but South Korea says the same and I do trust them.

Right now we have a medicine (Malaria drug) that stops the virus from multiplying in the body. Making people well a lot quicker. We are in clinical trails on the vaccine. A micro biologist from Israel said that the Corona virus is closely related to SARS.  SARS came on strong but dissipated quick. Hopefully it will follow the same pattern.

  Right now we are heading toward double digit unemployment. The stock market is crashing meaning the eventual massive job loss. GDP will crash.  The fear and hysteria that is complicit news provider driven is causing economic chaos.  Democrats are politicizing this for political advantage. Trump truly has done absolutely unrepresented action against the disease.  A massive amount of money is being thrown at this and flights from China/Europe are cancelled.

Once restaurants, stores, gyms and businesses of all kinds are given the green light to open this economy will come roaring back. People need to lose the fear. In the end even if 40,000 in the end die in the US we have to keep it into perspective. I'm keeping my money in the stock market. I don't' care if it goes down to 12,000.  When it comes back there will be plenty of money to go around for those that don't panic.  

The biggest issue overall, is social media.  Too many snowflakes posting and reposting bullshit, that they've seen on facebook.  So much false information being put out, and everyone believes it, because they "read it on the internet".

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20,000 plus died from the ordinary flu this year's flu season in the US.  50,000 last year died from pneumonia last year in the US.  We have 150 dead in the US  from Corona upper respiratory illness.  China claims it went down drastically. I don't trust them but South Korea says the same and I do trust them.

Right now we have a medicine (Malaria drug) that stops the virus from multiplying in the body. Making people well a lot quicker. We are in clinical trails on the vaccine. A micro biologist from Israel said that the Corona virus is closely related to SARS.  SARS came on strong but dissipated quick. Hopefully it will follow the same pattern.

  Right now we are heading toward double digit unemployment. The stock market is crashing meaning the eventual massive job loss. GDP will crash.  The fear and hysteria that is complicit news provider driven is causing economic chaos.  Democrats are politicizing this for political advantage. Trump truly has done absolutely unrepresented action against the disease.  A massive amount of money is being thrown at this and flights from China/Europe are cancelled.

Once restaurants, stores, gyms and businesses of all kinds are given the green light to open this economy will come roaring back. People need to lose the fear. In the end even if 40,000 in the end die in the US we have to keep it into perspective. I'm keeping my money in the stock market. I don't' care if it goes down to 12,000.  When it comes back there will be plenty of money to go around for those that don't panic.  

OT the problem is for small businesses. Companies like Walmart and Amazon are thriving because they are allowed to stay operational.

I know most GetBiggers do exceptionally well, but there are many off this site who don’t, who live paycheck to paycheck. The government can provide relief to these small companies but when hours are cut, and they have been, what do those people do?

The officials promise no evictions but what happens to the landlord who is dependent upon that income? Hopefully it’s no big deal and we come back but that is as speculative as is the deadliness of this virus.

People can’t control them selves buying groceries or toiletries, there is no way they will exercise restraint with their money when the whole system is shut down.

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The biggest issue overall, is social media.  Too many snowflakes posting and reposting bullshit, that they've seen on facebook.  So much false information being put out, and everyone believes it, because they "read it on the internet".

Are you saying I put out false information? Confused.

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No it is not.  Bats carry over 400 different strains of Corona viruses.  Bats were responsible for SARS, MERS, SADS, etc.  Bats are one of the biggest transmitters of Corona viruses, to humans and other animals.  Therefore, scientists study bats and viral transmissions regularly.  

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Agreed. Won't stop the Asians from eating them though, lol

 I have been to the open air markets in China (Beijing, Leshan, Shanghai). The crap they eat, often barely cooked, would make you sick just looking at it. I went to a high end dinner where I was served "bees nest", bullfrog (barely cooked), duck head (yeah - the whole head), etc. Surprising the Chinese are even alive at all today.

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Are you saying I put out false information? Confused.

No, I'm not.  I'm saying the current economic disaster is based on a bunch of bullshit.  Your information is accurate.  

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OT the problem is for small businesses. Companies like Walmart and Amazon are thriving because they are allowed to stay operational.

I know most GetBiggers do exceptionally well, but there are many off this site who don’t, who live paycheck to paycheck. The government can provide relief to these small companies but when hours are cut, and they have been, what do those people do?

The officials promise no evictions but what happens to the landlord who is dependent upon that income? Hopefully it’s no big deal and we come back but that is as speculative as is the deadliness of this virus.

People can’t control them selves buying groceries or toiletries, their is no way they will exercise restraint with their money when the whole system is shut down.

The fear is out of control. Went to BJ's today. It's like a Costco. Toilet paper ran out 9AM. They were allowing only two packs per customer and every single cart had two giant toilet paper packs.  The line to the cashiers and self check out was huge and they just opened. People are walking around with masks and gloves.    

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No, I'm not.  I'm saying the current economic disaster is based on a bunch of bullshit.  Your information is accurate.  

Quoted for truth. I'm with you. The economy is crashing from fear.

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OT the problem is for small businesses. Companies like Walmart and Amazon are thriving because they are allowed to stay operational.

I know most GetBiggers do exceptionally well, but there are many off this site who don’t, who live paycheck to paycheck. The government can provide relief to these small companies but when hours are cut, and they have been, what do those people do?

The officials promise no evictions but what happens to the landlord who is dependent upon that income? Hopefully it’s no big deal and we come back but that is as speculative as is the deadliness of this virus.

People can’t control them selves buying groceries or toiletries, their is no way they will exercise restraint with their money when the whole system is shut down.

So true. The problem is the "leaders" who make these decisions are on the public dime and have no worry about getting paid. No surprise the biggest critics of Trump's handling of this are : Academics, government workers, politicians and the Hollywood elites - all essentially immune to losing their jobs or going broke.

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Hopefully all business will be open in a week or two. I predict states like California and NY state will keep things closed longer.

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The fear is out of control. Went to BJ's today. It's like a Costco. Toilet paper ran out 9AM. They were allowing only two packs per customer and every single cart had two giant toilet paper packs.  The line to the cashiers and self check out was huge and they just opened. People are walking around with masks and gloves.    

I still can't get over the toilet paper hoarding. Seriously? Anyways there is a sudden spike in sales of these (no lie):


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No it is not.  Bats carry over 400 different strains of Corona viruses.  Bats were responsible for SARS, MERS, SADS, etc.  Bats are one of the biggest transmitters of Corona viruses, to humans and other animals.  Therefore, scientists study bats and viral transmissions regularly.  

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The Lord specifically states NOT to eat bats in the Bible.

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The amount who died from Covid19 today in Italy alone is equal to about half the daily worldwide deaths FROM EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD FROM REGULAR FLU TODAY.

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No it is not.  Bats carry over 400 different strains of Corona viruses.  Bats were responsible for SARS, MERS, SADS, etc.  Bats are one of the biggest transmitters of Corona viruses, to humans and other animals.  Therefore, scientists study bats and viral transmissions regularly.  

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Thanks.

I guess there’s nothing odd about it at all. Given the amount of studying we’ve done and the amount of knowledge we have about how easily these viruses are transferred it’s odd we don’t have more pandemic outbreaks that we are completely unprepared for.

Also I thought SARS was bird based that was transferred to pigs and then humans?

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The seriousness is not how bad or deadly Corona is, it's just a numbers game. Over half a million people die worldwide from seasonal flu. Doesn't mean the average person should be in terror of getting the flu, but with Corona added as basically a new flu, the small percentage that die could be hundreds of thousands or even millions of people dead in the next few years, and that's the hysteria. And it's going to be people's grandparents for the most part, who most people want to keep alive as long as possible, even if your grandparent is an asshole.

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The amount who died from Covid19 today in Italy alone is equal to about half the daily worldwide deaths FROM EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD FROM REGULAR FLU TODAY.

Army do you have any info on the victims?

Were they young and relatively healthy?

Is it correct that Italy’s death numbers have surpassed China’s? And Italy is on lockdown.

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I think what people are not getting is that the only reason countries like China and South Korea have it under control is because of the extreme measures they have taken. They don’t lock down cities for the normal flu. The numbers would be huge if not for this. Stop comparing normal flu numbers to that of the Covid-19. It’s sounds so ignorant. The info is out there. SMH

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Army do you have any info on the victims?

Were they young and relatively healthy?

Is it correct that Italy’s death numbers have surpassed China’s? And Italy is on lockdown.

From what I've read it's the old with comorbidities getting massacred.Doesnt really matter who it is dying, because once whatever age group fills the hospitals, then everyone else can't get treatment for anything else either.

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I think what people are not getting is that the only reason countries like China and South Korea have it under control is because of the extreme measures they have taken. They don’t lock down cities for the normal flu. The numbers would be huge if not for this. Stop comparing normal flu numbers to that of the Covid-19. It’s sounds so ignorant. The info is out there. SMH

Exactly. It took 3 months for it to reach 100,000 cases, and only 12 days to go from 100,000 to 200,000.

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https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

This is very interesting article. Don’t let the title fool you into thinking it’s a fear mongering article. And for those who respond TLDR don’t bother. It really shows you can learn from other countries as this started earlier for them.

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Almost 6,000 new cases in Italy today and 627 new deaths

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The near future seems bright if youre into buying real estate in italy. Wish i was wealthy. .

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Coronavirus vs Flu

Go fuck a transvestite

Dont bother with a rubber m8 enjoy!