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Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss
« on: March 21, 2020, 04:16:30 AM »
Could be BS, or maybe not?!  ;D

Coronavirus was likely deliberately released

https://www.newswars.com/deadly-pandemic-sets-stage-for-globalist-takeover/

Due to the conflicting reports about the Coronavirus, it is difficult to discern the truth.

Mainstream media, and the establishment that props it up, has become so distrusted that a crisis of confidence is threatening to bring everything down.

Coronavirus is hitting the United States at a time of internal conflict and civil war at the highest levels of government.

What we can discern are a variety of mega-trends that at the very least point to a strong motive for a deliberate release of a man-made virus that could meet the goals of bad actors working against America and humanity at large.

At the very least – even if it turns out that mortality rates are low – Coronavirus is being used as a deadly economic and political weapon.

To begin, let’s take a look at some of the major trends and data points that have recently shaped the globe:

In 2017, the Pentagon initiated a study that assessed the threat of synthetic biology tech creating engineered biological weapons that are difficult to identify. As Wired magazine reported, this development “…could have implications for defensive strategies against a new type of bioweapon, potentially more difficult to identify because it resembles its “natural” counterpart.”

The fact that Coronavirus first appeared in China, an enemy of the United States, meant that the most authoritarian country on earth set the tone for how to respond to the outbreak, and initiated a coverup of the true nature of the virus.

Efforts to undermine President Trump’s successful presidency have so far failed. A persistent effort to sabotage both Trump and American success at large has been at work since before Trump was elected.

An overall move toward authoritarian globalism worldwide is meeting resistance. Populist movements are angering elites.

The medical industrial complex is experiencing a crisis of confidence, as revealed by recent comments from top scientists at the WHO Global Vaccine Safety Summit.

A pro-human philosophy for the future of mankind is gaining a foothold, threatening a long-established plan for technocratic rule.

Coronavirus is appearing at a critical point in human development. The technological revolution has the potential to lift up all of mankind, while overall confidence in the establishment is at an all time low as governments struggle to contain “empowered individuals“.

What better way to counter every single one of these developments than to release a pandemic virus on the globe?

When threatened with the prospect of a deadly virus, unprepared humans will quickly abandon any kind of morality or higher values in pursuit of the common good.

Deep state operatives (like George Soros) have already made moves to destabilize the United States.

Democrats have hoped for a global economic crisis to stop Trump from winning in 2020.

President Trump’s perceived inaction can be used against him if the virus is reported to be community spread on a large scale in the US.

Authoritarian rule, including Big Tech censorship of online speech, could be justified as a means to control the population.

The medical establishment can make a comeback with a vaccine to save the world from Coronavirus, utilizing the same synthetic biology technology that may have been used to create the virus.

The best response that informed individuals can take is to prepare as best we can while continuing to practice and promote virtues of freedom, self reliance, and Judeo Christian values that sustained the west during times of hardship in the past.

Make no mistake, America and Trump’s response could shape history.

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Re: Deadly Pandemic Sets Stage for Globalist Takeover
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2020, 04:30:26 AM »
Nah, it’s being used as cover for an economic reset. Notice the hotspot is Italy. Their debt to GDP is twice that of Germany, and is about to go into recession. China is slowing down too. That’s why oil prices have crashed. Less demand going forward. Russia and Saudi Arabia are China’s biggest oil suppliers.

Over playing this virus provides a pretext for the European central bank to inflate the currency and keep this failing European Union experiment, which isn’t working for anyone, at this point, alive for a bit longer.

Trump has to play along otherwise the dollar would skyrocket in value and make American exports less attractive. Even with the feds’ dramatic interventions, the dollar has increased versus the euro.


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Re: Deadly Pandemic Sets Stage for Globalist Takeover
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2020, 04:34:27 AM »
Could be BS, or maybe not?!  ;D

Coronavirus was likely deliberately released

https://www.newswars.com/deadly-pandemic-sets-stage-for-globalist-takeover/

Due to the conflicting reports about the Coronavirus, it is difficult to discern the truth.

Mainstream media, and the establishment that props it up, has become so distrusted that a crisis of confidence is threatening to bring everything down.

Coronavirus is hitting the United States at a time of internal conflict and civil war at the highest levels of government.

What we can discern are a variety of mega-trends that at the very least point to a strong motive for a deliberate release of a man-made virus that could meet the goals of bad actors working against America and humanity at large.

At the very least – even if it turns out that mortality rates are low – Coronavirus is being used as a deadly economic and political weapon.

To begin, let’s take a look at some of the major trends and data points that have recently shaped the globe:

In 2017, the Pentagon initiated a study that assessed the threat of synthetic biology tech creating engineered biological weapons that are difficult to identify. As Wired magazine reported, this development “…could have implications for defensive strategies against a new type of bioweapon, potentially more difficult to identify because it resembles its “natural” counterpart.”

The fact that Coronavirus first appeared in China, an enemy of the United States, meant that the most authoritarian country on earth set the tone for how to respond to the outbreak, and initiated a coverup of the true nature of the virus.

Efforts to undermine President Trump’s successful presidency have so far failed. A persistent effort to sabotage both Trump and American success at large has been at work since before Trump was elected.

An overall move toward authoritarian globalism worldwide is meeting resistance. Populist movements are angering elites.

The medical industrial complex is experiencing a crisis of confidence, as revealed by recent comments from top scientists at the WHO Global Vaccine Safety Summit.

A pro-human philosophy for the future of mankind is gaining a foothold, threatening a long-established plan for technocratic rule.

Coronavirus is appearing at a critical point in human development. The technological revolution has the potential to lift up all of mankind, while overall confidence in the establishment is at an all time low as governments struggle to contain “empowered individuals“.

What better way to counter every single one of these developments than to release a pandemic virus on the globe?

When threatened with the prospect of a deadly virus, unprepared humans will quickly abandon any kind of morality or higher values in pursuit of the common good.

Deep state operatives (like George Soros) have already made moves to destabilize the United States.

Democrats have hoped for a global economic crisis to stop Trump from winning in 2020.

President Trump’s perceived inaction can be used against him if the virus is reported to be community spread on a large scale in the US.

Authoritarian rule, including Big Tech censorship of online speech, could be justified as a means to control the population.

The medical establishment can make a comeback with a vaccine to save the world from Coronavirus, utilizing the same synthetic biology technology that may have been used to create the virus.

The best response that informed individuals can take is to prepare as best we can while continuing to practice and promote virtues of freedom, self reliance, and Judeo Christian values that sustained the west during times of hardship in the past.

Make no mistake, America and Trump’s response could shape history.


I would not be surprised if Soros is scared shitless right now because he is in the age group that Coronavirus can kill

Not the ending that he was expecting.

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Re: Deadly Pandemic Sets Stage for Globalist Takeover
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2020, 04:45:40 AM »
Goodrum has been very quiet lately. He is probably stocking up on gold bars and hiding out in a bunker.

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Re: Deadly Pandemic Sets Stage for Globalist Takeover
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Re: Deadly Pandemic Sets Stage for Globalist Takeover
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2020, 05:19:33 AM »
And yet another MENSA candidate from Getbig.com enlightens us with special insider information on what's really going down.

Shut up gimmick. This guy has a point

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Re: Deadly Pandemic Sets Stage for Globalist Takeover
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2020, 06:29:35 AM »
Nah, it’s being used as cover for an economic reset. Notice the hotspot is Italy. Their debt to GDP is twice that of Germany, and is about to go into recession. China is slowing down too. That’s why oil prices have crashed. Less demand going forward. Russia and Saudi Arabia are China’s biggest oil suppliers.

Over playing this virus provides a pretext for the European central bank to inflate the currency and keep this failing European Union experiment, which isn’t working for anyone, at this point, alive for a bit longer.

Trump has to play along otherwise the dollar would skyrocket in value and make American exports less attractive. Even with the feds’ dramatic interventions, the dollar has increased versus the euro.


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already happening

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Coronavirus - Hoax! Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2020, 10:01:21 AM »
Alll a HOAX folks

Even the Health Minister of Italy says over 99 percent of the deaths have nothing to do with any supposed Corona.

America has shut down its nation of over 300+ million BASED UPON LIES OF CORONA... even though its excuse for doing so was the supposed 100 deaths due to Corona.

In the mean time this past winter in the US... over 40,000 people DIED WITH THE FLU and at no time were businesses shut down or people told to stay 6 feet from one another or theatres/bars/nightclubs/gyms/markets/manufacturing plants etc CLOSED DOWN or any panic/hysteria caused...




Italy Coronavirus: New explosive information Mar
19

by Jon Rappoport

March 19, 2020


A very brief update. Read this carefully. Many people who were diagnosed as “coronavirus cases” in Italy, and then died, were almost certainly put on antiviral drugs. As you’ll see, below, a significant percentage of these people had prior heart conditions or high blood pressure. But at least one of the antiviral drugs, called ribavirin, carries this VERY RELEVANT warning, from cardiosmart.org: “Ribavirin may decrease the number of red blood cells in your body. This is called anemia and it can be life-threatening in people who have heart disease or circulation problems.” High blood pressure is a circulatory problem. Understand? Get it? LIFE-THREATENING. So how many coronavirus patients have been killed by the administering of ribavirin?

And with THAT, let’s jump in…because there’s more. Much more.

For those people who have any belief in the coronavirus…

Here’s the basic situation: the Italian health agencies are reporting escalating COV deaths—big fear-story out front…

But in the background, other Italian government researchers are combing through patient records, to take a much closer look…to see whether people are dying from the virus or other more obvious causes.

Are people dying coincidentally WITH the virus, or BECAUSE OF the virus? Is the virus a mere harmless passenger in the body, or is it the driving force?

The Italian results are astonishing, to understate it by a mile.

Bloomberg News has the story: 3/18, “99 percent of those whose died from virus had other illness, Italy says”:

“More than 99% [!] of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority.”

“The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country’s coronavirus fatalities [so far, because it’s slow work], finding that just three victims [!!], or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology [disease]. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.”

“More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.”

“The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5 [!!!]. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.”

BANG.

Average age of those who’ve died: 79.5. Are you kidding? Lots of prior medical conditions, weakened immune systems, and what this emerging study isn’t saying: all these people had obviously been treated for those prior conditions with toxic medical drugs. Furthermore, once they’d been diagnosed with coronavirus, chances are many of them were put on highly toxic antiviral drugs. Thus delivering the final blow.

Imagining the coronavirus was the CAUSE of death would be a ridiculous fantasy. But these people are counted as “coronavirus deaths” by the other Italian reporting agencies, who are jacking up the numbers.

Does this remind you of any other reports I’ve been detailing? The elderly people with obvious prior diseases who died in Australia; and the elderly people who were diagnosed as coronavirus cases in the state of Washington—all living in a long-term-care nursing home?

Getting the picture? This death-numbers con—aside from covering up the real causes of death, including MEDICAL—is the forward spear being used to justify locking down and wrecking economies all over the world right now, and that means attacking the people in any way connected to those economies who have to work to make a living.

There are statistical vampires at work, using the elderly and sick and dying to feed numbers to health agencies around the planet. Those agencies tap their press contacts, and horror reports emerge, and the unsuspecting public, in economic lockdowns, sit in front of the tube and watch these reports, and inhale the cooked-up fear.

Turn your mind to the highest setting, because nothing is riding on this whole deal except the immediate future of humanity.

And again, cardiosmart.org: “Ribavirin may decrease the number of red blood cells in your body. This is called anemia and it can be life-threatening in people who have heart disease or circulation problems.”

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Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2020, 10:07:59 AM »
SAMSON = infectious disease doctor, epidemiologist, and journalist.
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Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2020, 10:10:21 AM »
Samsung where is this info coming from?

We have members from Italy saying it’s not a hoax.


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Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2020, 10:16:27 AM »
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Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2020, 10:18:08 AM »
SAMSON, Send this article to these guys!!!




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Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2020, 10:25:48 AM »
Another 800 died in Italy in the last 24 hours.

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Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2020, 10:27:43 AM »
Imagine the amount of crack SAMSON123 is smoking per day

It's like he raided a whole crack house by himself


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Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2020, 10:34:49 AM »
SAMSON = infectious disease doctor, epidemiologist, and journalist.
Thank god we have SF1900 on our side. 8) Your contribution is highly appreciated.
I feel so much safer knowing you watch over this forum and give expert opinions on conspiracy theories.
How is Rory holding up in times like this?

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Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2020, 10:36:04 AM »
SAMSON = infectious disease doctor, epidemiologist, and journalist.


Not really.... JUST AN EXPOSER OF TRUTH
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Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2020, 10:37:28 AM »
Samsung where is this info coming from?

We have members from Italy saying it’s not a hoax.


Didn't you read the article?

The names and institutes are cleanly cited in it
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Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2020, 10:43:33 AM »

Didn't you read the article?

The names and institutes are cleanly cited in it

Not really.

I’m on a lockdown, so I don’t really have the time.

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Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2020, 10:44:13 AM »



I'm only Russian on the weekends...
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Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2020, 10:45:04 AM »
Samsung where is this info coming from?

We have members from Italy saying it’s not a hoax.
we have one from a small town of 25k people who said bodies were piling up in the church and it was out of control, in a later post he said he didnt know anyone who had the virus...

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Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2020, 10:45:55 AM »

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Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2020, 10:48:01 AM »
we have one from a small town of 25k people who said bodies were piling up in the church and it was out of control, in a later post he said he didnt know anyone who had the virus...

Joswift, I would have thought you, of all people, would heed Italian lifters advice. This is either a hoax or it’s not. But if it is where are all the bodies coming from?

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Re: Corona HOAX... Italy Coronavirus: New Explosive Information
« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2020, 10:48:55 AM »
Alll a HOAX folks

Even the Health Minister of Italy says over 99 percent of the deaths have nothing to do with any supposed Corona.

America has shut down its nation of over 300+ million BASED UPON LIES OF CORONA... even though its excuse for doing so was the supposed 100 deaths due to Corona.

In the mean time this past winter in the US... over 40,000 people DIED WITH THE FLU and at no time were businesses shut down or people told to stay 6 feet from one another or theatres/bars/nightclubs/gyms/markets/manufacturing plants etc CLOSED DOWN or any panic/hysteria caused...




Italy Coronavirus: New explosive information Mar
19

by Jon Rappoport

March 19, 2020


A very brief update. Read this carefully. Many people who were diagnosed as “coronavirus cases” in Italy, and then died, were almost certainly put on antiviral drugs. As you’ll see, below, a significant percentage of these people had prior heart conditions or high blood pressure. But at least one of the antiviral drugs, called ribavirin, carries this VERY RELEVANT warning, from cardiosmart.org: “Ribavirin may decrease the number of red blood cells in your body. This is called anemia and it can be life-threatening in people who have heart disease or circulation problems.” High blood pressure is a circulatory problem. Understand? Get it? LIFE-THREATENING. So how many coronavirus patients have been killed by the administering of ribavirin?

And with THAT, let’s jump in…because there’s more. Much more.

For those people who have any belief in the coronavirus…

Here’s the basic situation: the Italian health agencies are reporting escalating COV deaths—big fear-story out front…

But in the background, other Italian government researchers are combing through patient records, to take a much closer look…to see whether people are dying from the virus or other more obvious causes.

Are people dying coincidentally WITH the virus, or BECAUSE OF the virus? Is the virus a mere harmless passenger in the body, or is it the driving force?

The Italian results are astonishing, to understate it by a mile.

Bloomberg News has the story: 3/18, “99 percent of those whose died from virus had other illness, Italy says”:

“More than 99% [!] of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority.”

“The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country’s coronavirus fatalities [so far, because it’s slow work], finding that just three victims [!!], or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology [disease]. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.”

“More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.”

“The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5 [!!!]. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.”

BANG.

Average age of those who’ve died: 79.5. Are you kidding? Lots of prior medical conditions, weakened immune systems, and what this emerging study isn’t saying: all these people had obviously been treated for those prior conditions with toxic medical drugs. Furthermore, once they’d been diagnosed with coronavirus, chances are many of them were put on highly toxic antiviral drugs. Thus delivering the final blow.

Imagining the coronavirus was the CAUSE of death would be a ridiculous fantasy. But these people are counted as “coronavirus deaths” by the other Italian reporting agencies, who are jacking up the numbers.

Does this remind you of any other reports I’ve been detailing? The elderly people with obvious prior diseases who died in Australia; and the elderly people who were diagnosed as coronavirus cases in the state of Washington—all living in a long-term-care nursing home?

Getting the picture? This death-numbers con—aside from covering up the real causes of death, including MEDICAL—is the forward spear being used to justify locking down and wrecking economies all over the world right now, and that means attacking the people in any way connected to those economies who have to work to make a living.

There are statistical vampires at work, using the elderly and sick and dying to feed numbers to health agencies around the planet. Those agencies tap their press contacts, and horror reports emerge, and the unsuspecting public, in economic lockdowns, sit in front of the tube and watch these reports, and inhale the cooked-up fear.

Turn your mind to the highest setting, because nothing is riding on this whole deal except the immediate future of humanity.

And again, cardiosmart.org: “Ribavirin may decrease the number of red blood cells in your body. This is called anemia and it can be life-threatening in people who have heart disease or circulation problems.”

The Matrix Revealed

(To read about Jon’s mega-collection, The Matrix Revealed, click here.)

Jon Rappoport

The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED, EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, and POWER OUTSIDE THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. He maintains a consulting practice for private clients, the purpose of which is the expansion of personal creative power. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free NoMoreFakeNews emails here or his free OutsideTheRealityMachine emails here.


https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/03/19/italy-coronavirus-new-explosive-information/

The United States is just one of many countries that are having a dramatic response to COVID-19 by shutting down and limiting exposure. Is it a worldwide hoax? That is highly unlikely.