Covid-19 - Real or Hoax? Discuss

[SF1900]

Thank god we have SF1900 on our side. Your contribution is highly appreciated.
I feel so much safer knowing you watch over this forum and give expert opinions on conspiracy theories.
How is Rory holding up in times like this?

Thank you for the kind words, DOA!!

Rory and I are not allowed back to work for at least two weeks. The good thing, is I will still be getting paid!

We are cuddling while watching Netflix. During these difficult times, we must all rely on the people close to us.

[SF1900]

Not really.... JUST AN EXPOSER OF TRUTH

Obviously, one youtube video has clearly exposed the whole truth.

Good job!

[The Italian Lifter]

we have one from a small town of 25k people who said bodies were piling up in the church and it was out of control, in a later post he said he didnt know anyone who had the virus...

My post was not an attention whore one (me and my family have far greater concerns than a message board).
The idea was to be of any help in understanding how this can evolve if underestimated. That's all.
I post here once every few months so I don't need to become a "getbig influencer".

To the guy with family in Lodi I really wish them and to him all the best, really, no animosity from my part.
Check the online maps and see how fast is moving south, but I'm sure they already know.

The piling up of dead people is the norm now: of course they are sent to the graveyard but considering the big numbers it takes time, luckily Italy it's not Iran where they are disposed in fields outside the city.

To the question if I know someone who died of covid19 the answer it's sadly yes: I lost two close relatives (aged 64 and 70) so yes it affects more elderly people.
But I also lost three good friends (they were younger: 48, 57 and 65).
In roughly 10 to 15 days they were gone.

Dear Royalty: be safe and take care, you didn't have the opportunity to meet Carlo, Francesca and Pietro, but they were full of life and loving, decent people.
I bet if they could speak to you, they would say not underestimate the situation and avoid close contact with people.

This is from the beginning the goal of this post.

[joswift]

I quote Ilaiain and mixed you two up, apologies...

[Stanly]

[ilalin]

Alll a HOAX folks

Even the Health Minister of Italy says over 99 percent of the deaths have nothing to do with any supposed Corona.

America has shut down its nation of over 300+ million BASED UPON LIES OF CORONA... even though its excuse for doing so was the supposed 100 deaths due to Corona.

In the mean time this past winter in the US... over 40,000 people DIED WITH THE FLU and at no time were businesses shut down or people told to stay 6 feet from one another or theatres/bars/nightclubs/gyms/markets/manufacturing plants etc CLOSED DOWN or any panic/hysteria caused...




Italy Coronavirus: New explosive information Mar
19

by Jon Rappoport

March 19, 2020


A very brief update. Read this carefully. Many people who were diagnosed as “coronavirus cases” in Italy, and then died, were almost certainly put on antiviral drugs. As you’ll see, below, a significant percentage of these people had prior heart conditions or high blood pressure. But at least one of the antiviral drugs, called ribavirin, carries this VERY RELEVANT warning, from cardiosmart.org: “Ribavirin may decrease the number of red blood cells in your body. This is called anemia and it can be life-threatening in people who have heart disease or circulation problems.” High blood pressure is a circulatory problem. Understand? Get it? LIFE-THREATENING. So how many coronavirus patients have been killed by the administering of ribavirin?

And with THAT, let’s jump in…because there’s more. Much more.

For those people who have any belief in the coronavirus…

Here’s the basic situation: the Italian health agencies are reporting escalating COV deaths—big fear-story out front…

But in the background, other Italian government researchers are combing through patient records, to take a much closer look…to see whether people are dying from the virus or other more obvious causes.

Are people dying coincidentally WITH the virus, or BECAUSE OF the virus? Is the virus a mere harmless passenger in the body, or is it the driving force?

The Italian results are astonishing, to understate it by a mile.

Bloomberg News has the story: 3/18, “99 percent of those whose died from virus had other illness, Italy says”:

“More than 99% [!] of Italy’s coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions, according to a study by the country’s national health authority.”

“The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country’s coronavirus fatalities [so far, because it’s slow work], finding that just three victims [!!], or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology [disease]. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions.”

“More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease.”

“The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5 [!!!]. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions.”

BANG.

Average age of those who’ve died: 79.5. Are you kidding? Lots of prior medical conditions, weakened immune systems, and what this emerging study isn’t saying: all these people had obviously been treated for those prior conditions with toxic medical drugs. Furthermore, once they’d been diagnosed with coronavirus, chances are many of them were put on highly toxic antiviral drugs. Thus delivering the final blow.

Imagining the coronavirus was the CAUSE of death would be a ridiculous fantasy. But these people are counted as “coronavirus deaths” by the other Italian reporting agencies, who are jacking up the numbers.

Does this remind you of any other reports I’ve been detailing? The elderly people with obvious prior diseases who died in Australia; and the elderly people who were diagnosed as coronavirus cases in the state of Washington—all living in a long-term-care nursing home?

Getting the picture? This death-numbers con—aside from covering up the real causes of death, including MEDICAL—is the forward spear being used to justify locking down and wrecking economies all over the world right now, and that means attacking the people in any way connected to those economies who have to work to make a living.

There are statistical vampires at work, using the elderly and sick and dying to feed numbers to health agencies around the planet. Those agencies tap their press contacts, and horror reports emerge, and the unsuspecting public, in economic lockdowns, sit in front of the tube and watch these reports, and inhale the cooked-up fear.

Turn your mind to the highest setting, because nothing is riding on this whole deal except the immediate future of humanity.

And again, cardiosmart.org: “Ribavirin may decrease the number of red blood cells in your body. This is called anemia and it can be life-threatening in people who have heart disease or circulation problems.”

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Jon Rappoport

The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED, EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, and POWER OUTSIDE THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. He maintains a consulting practice for private clients, the purpose of which is the expansion of personal creative power. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can sign up for his free NoMoreFakeNews emails here or his free OutsideTheRealityMachine emails here.


https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/03/19/italy-coronavirus-new-explosive-information/

I'll read this fairy-tale to my kids before bed, so they can fall asleep faster.

[pamith]

Wow!

[Mothballs]

In the end, most people will believe what they WANT to be true.

If you’re a lifeless sheep who counts on the all knowing and wise government to tell you how to live then you’re likely to believe big government.

If you’re a conspiracy lunatic inclined to believe a 17 year old high school dropout who has YouTube solved so many Hillary Clinton murders he can retire from Scotland Yard by 18, you’ll probably believe anyone OVER the official party line.

[Thin Lizzy]

In the end, most people will believe what they WANT to be true.

If you’re a lifeless sheep who counts on the all knowing and wise government to tell you how to live then you’re likely to believe big government.

If you’re a conspiracy lunatic inclined to believe a 17 year old high school dropout who has YouTube solved so many Hillary Clinton murders he can retire from Scotland Yard by 18, you’ll probably believe anyone OVER the official party line.

Would this not give a reasonable answer to the “Why Italy” question?


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285

Investigating the impact of influenza on excess mortality in all ages in Italy during recent seasons (2013/14–2016/17 seasons)

Italy showed a higher influenza attributable excess mortality compared to other European countries. especially in the elderly.

[pamith]

I kinda suspected it was all a hoax, now I know, ty Op

[Randomum]

Would this not give a reasonable answer to the “Why Italy” question?


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285

Investigating the impact of influenza on excess mortality in all ages in Italy during recent seasons (2013/14–2016/17 seasons)

Italy showed a higher influenza attributable excess mortality compared to other European countries. especially in the elderly.

Great find. I wonder why though, it shows data to support that they are dying at higher rates even from influenza. Any theories?

[pamith]

Today, an officer at worked sneezed twice, I inhaled

[Ropo]

Alll a HOAX folks

Says the moron, because he find some "taken out of the context" reading from the foil hat web site? I have some news to you: Evidences points strongly to one direction: If you are smoker, using evaporator, you have overweight, diabetes, high blood pressure, or any fking condition before the covid 19 virus, you have great chance to lose your life IF YOU GET THE VIRUS.

If you are fresh born healthy little baby, you have good chance to live. In all other circumstances it is best for you if you just play by the rules, obey orders, stay at home etc.

USA is going to overtake China to the list of the most infected countries, so it doesn't harm you at any way, if you take these precautions seriously..

[pamith]

One has to be foolish to believe in the coronavirus

[Jizmonkey]

Some dumb people on this site.

[Dave D]

Says the moron, because he find some "taken out of the context" reading from the foil hat web site? I have some news to you: Evidences points strongly to one direction: If you are smoker, using evaporator, you have overweight, diabetes, high blood pressure, or any fking condition before the covid 19 virus, you have great chance to lose your life IF YOU GET THE VIRUS.

If you are fresh born healthy little baby, you have good chance to live. In all other circumstances it is best for you if you just play by the rules, obey orders, stay at home etc.

USA is going to overtake China to the list of the most infected countries, so it doesn't harm you at any way, if you take these precautions seriously..

Ropo I agree with your take.

However we know that the homeless in San Francisco have been exposed to the virus (the was a death the first week of March), why do you think it hasn’t exploded in that sector yet? The homeless would seem to be the perfect community to be a carrier and experience high death numbers.

[thebrink]

In the end, most people will believe what they WANT to be true.

If you’re a lifeless sheep who counts on the all knowing and wise government to tell you how to live then you’re likely to believe big government.

If you’re a conspiracy lunatic inclined to believe a 17 year old high school dropout who has YouTube solved so many Hillary Clinton murders he can retire from Scotland Yard by 18, you’ll probably believe anyone OVER the official party line.

What's the official party line? CNN?? 🤣🤣🤣

[thebrink]

Some dumb people on this site.

Well where do you get YOUR information from...? Just curious..

[Ropo]

Ropo I agree with your take.

However we know that the homeless in San Francisco have been exposed to the virus (the was a death the first week of March), why do you think it hasn’t exploded in that sector yet? The homeless would seem to be the perfect community to be a carrier and experience high death numbers.

Where did I say so? Do you have some kind of organisation, who counts sick homeless people, or how do you get the knowledge about the situation among them? If police etc. find a dead homeless guy, will there be an autopsy, or do they just kick him in the hole on the ground? An how do you know how many is in that hole already? Homeless people of the US are like flies, if some of them will die, no one will know..

[BB]

Newark, NJ, warm Friday night, Coronavirus in full swing -

www.instagram.com/p/B9-X8dUAIup/ .

(Comments are fun too).

[pamith]

It was all a hoax, smh

[Thin Lizzy]

Great find. I wonder why though, it shows data to support that they are dying at higher rates even from influenza. Any theories?

I wondered about that myself.



My guess it’s behavioral. Combination of obesity and cigarette smoking making them vulnerable to sickness.

There was an old Italian woman in Jersey who supposedly died of corona. The woman was a house.

[BB]

Update - When they catch you, and make you apologize -

www.instagram.com/p/B-ATCiWBmCT/ .

[pamith]

Coronavirus is a hoax

[pamith]

Do not believe in the media! Gosh!