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Re: Beautiful man with glasses- New released lost tapes
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2020, 12:44:15 AM »
Mike had a very dense compact physique that was probably more impressive in person like Yates' was. He wasn't especially wide but he wasn't narrow either. Standing next to Zane he makes Zane look weak and skinny. And do you think his pecs look weak next to Zane and Dickerson?

Remember, you have to rate him in comparison with the top guys of the day like Boyer Cole, Zane, Robby Robinson, Padilla, Dickerson. I think he holds up quite well with those guys.


Good comparison picture, I think Zane had broad shoulders, his perfect frame helped him through his career, so Mike also seems have broad shoulders actually.
Mike’s square chest wasn’t “weak” but it just didn’t match his overall thickness, imo.


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Re: Beautiful man with glasses- New released lost tapes
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2020, 04:02:56 AM »


This is what a real bodybuilder looks like in clothing.  There is a pciture of Zane holding a pumpkin and its another great example of what men shouild look like.  Fantastic..
That was part of the problem.  Mike looked better in clothes than up on stage being compared to other bodybuilders.  He did have a great "walk around town" physique.

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« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2020, 04:31:08 AM »
He was overrated and fans of high intensity put him up on a pedestal.  When he tried to win the Universe he was rightly beaten by Robby and the next time by Kalman. His fans won't accept those defeats. His fifth place finish is about where he belonged in the 1980 Olympia. Having said all this he was a great bodybuilder and a big influence in my training. Back in the day I use to save everything I could find on his training. Stuff written by him and about him. I might have the most comprehensive collection on his training of anyone out there.

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Re: Beautiful man with glasses- New released lost tapes
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2020, 04:46:22 AM »
very well stated "oldtimer".   I have always said mike was a decent bodybuilder . He just wasnt as "great" as he thought he was and he was very "full" of himself. It would of been great to see what would of happened to him if he didnt let his defeat drive him further into mental problems. I think he was partially heading in the right direction as far as recuperation but he was wrong in many ways.

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Re: Beautiful man with glasses- New released lost tapes
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2020, 05:01:47 AM »
very well stated "oldtimer".   I have always said mike was a decent bodybuilder . He just wasnt as "great" as he thought he was and he was very "full" of himself. It would of been great to see what would of happened to him if he didnt let his defeat drive him further into mental problems. I think he was partially heading in the right direction as far as recuperation but he was wrong in many ways.
Meth, booze, no sleep and 800 calorie diets certainly didn't help his mental state.

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Re: Beautiful man with glasses- New released lost tapes
« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2020, 05:07:13 AM »
He was overrated and fans of high intensity put him up on a pedestal.  When he tried to win the Universe he was rightly beaten by Robby and the next time by Kalman. His fans won't accept those defeats. His fifth place finish is about where he belonged in the 1980 Olympia.

Agreed..

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Re: Beautiful man with glasses- New released lost tapes
« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2020, 03:05:45 PM »
COOL BUILD..GREAT PICS,,

I dig it. Good balance of power and aesthetics. Unique build.

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Re: Beautiful man with glasses- New released lost tapes
« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2020, 03:22:29 PM »
Mike had a very dense compact physique that was probably more impressive in person like Yates' was. He wasn't especially wide but he wasn't narrow either. Standing next to Zane he makes Zane look weak and skinny. And do you think his pecs look weak next to Zane and Dickerson?

Remember, you have to rate him in comparison with the top guys of the day like Boyer Cole, Zane, Robby Robinson, Padilla, Dickerson. I think he holds up quite well with those guys.



I think people are blinded with hate for Chris because he is gay. He is clearly the best physique in that picture not by a little but by a country mile.

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« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2020, 03:33:06 PM »
I think people are blinded with hate for Chris because he is gay. He is clearly the best physique in that picture not by a little but by a country mile.

You're constantly attributing a person's preferences to ulterior motives. HIT fans are blind to Mentzer's flaws and will never accept his defeat to Robinson and Kalman. Diskerson's physique isn't liked because he's gay. Do you really think you can read a person's mind and motives? I'm a Mike fan but felt Robby Robinson was the best bber in that era. Mike had a unique look that you either liked or didn't like. I liked it. Nothing to do with how he trained. I never liked Dickerson's physique. The droopy pecs, tiny biceps, narrow shoulders but standing relax his back was tremendous as was his calves. Bob Paris is one of the most popular bber on this site and he was gay.

Maybe people don't like or does like someone's physique because they simply don't like or do like their physique. Simple as that. No need to attribute motives that you have no way of knowing.

As the saying goes, "Sometimes a banana is just a banana."

BTW, I doubt very much that most here would agree with you that Chris looks the best in that shot let alone by a country mile. Maybe I'll make a poll to prove it.


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« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2020, 04:05:06 PM »
You're constantly attributing a person's preferences to ulterior motives. HIT fans are blind to Mentzer's flaws and will never accept his defeat to Robinson and Kalman. Diskerson's physique isn't liked because he's gay. Do you really think you can read a person's mind and motives? I'm a Mike fan but felt Robby Robinson was the best bber in that era. Mike had a unique look that you either liked or didn't like. I liked it. Nothing to do with how he trained. I never liked Dickerson's physique. The droopy pecs, tiny biceps, narrow shoulders but standing relax his back was tremendous as was his calves. Bob Paris is one of the most popular bber on this site and he was gay.

Maybe people don't like or does like someone's physique because they simply don't like or do like their physique. Simple as that. No need to attribute motives that you have no way of knowing.

As the saying goes, "Sometimes a banana is just a banana."

BTW, I doubt very much that most here would agree with you that Chris looks the best in that shot let alone by a country mile. Maybe I'll make a poll to prove it.



It's subjective but I see it clearly.  Didn't he come in second place in the Olympia twice and won once? Listening to guys like you people would think he was a second rate guy in bodybuilding. Look at all the Grand Prix's he won in the 80's beating a who's who in bodybuilding. The guy competed from 1966 to to 1994. An amazing time to compete near the top. In the late 70's and early 80's he was ripped and had density that made others looked soft standing by him. I stand by what I said that the average bodybuilding fan was biased toward him. Even Mentzer said he wouldn't have had a problem with Dickerson winning the 1980 Olympia.  

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Re: Beautiful man with glasses- New released lost tapes
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2020, 04:23:16 PM »
It's subjective but I see it clearly.  Didn't he come in second place in the Olympia twice and won once? Listening to guys like you people would think he was a second rate guy in bodybuilding. Look at all the Grand Prix's he won in the 80's beating a who's who in bodybuilding. The guy competed from 1966 to to 1994. An amazing time to compete near the top. In the late 70's and early 80's he was ripped and had density that made others looked soft standing by him. I stand by what I said that the average bodybuilding fan was biased toward him. Even Mentzer said he wouldn't have had a problem with Dickerson winning the 1980 Olympia.  

Wait there was a bias against him yet he placed second and then won the Mr. Olympia?

I've never heard the term "muscle density" used in describing Dickerson. My point is that I didn't like his physique because I didn't like his physique and it had nothing to do with his sexual preference. Just like I got interested in Mentzer after seeing his physique and knowing nothing about his training philosophy. You attribute motives to others that you simply can't possibly know.

The general public routinely disagrees with the judges. They are the final word in a contest but not the final word in public opinion. Few people believe that Franco should have won in 1981. Few people thought that Gunter shouldn't have placed higher in the 2002 Olympia and the audience booed when he was announced for 5th place. Many thought Nasser was better than a fading Dorian.

People question judges all the time and often they are right. Politics play a huge role in picking a winner.

I made a poll asking to rate Mentzer, Zane, and Dickerson just going by that pic. I'd be surprised if Dickerson is considered the best.

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Re: Beautiful man with glasses- New released lost tapes
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2020, 06:32:13 PM »
Mentzer never competed on WABBA World Cup & NABBA Pro Mr.Universe like other Ifbb 'rebels' !.

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« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2020, 07:40:37 PM »
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Re: Beautiful man with glasses- New released lost tapes
« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2020, 07:45:23 PM »
I think people are blinded with hate for Chris because he is gay. He is clearly the best physique in that picture not by a little but by a country mile.

No me, I'm pro gay.  No homo.  Chris has good legs but his upper body is funky/fucked in my opinion.  Plus, he's a coloured guy and doesn't seem to have much in the way of  a hog.  Not Mr. O worthy.  Now, if he had VVV's magnificent kielbasa, he'd be in business.

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Re: Beautiful man with glasses- New released lost tapes
« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2020, 08:38:30 PM »
I think people are blinded with hate for Chris because he is gay. He is clearly the best physique in that picture not by a little but by a country mile.



Why is the lighting so uneven among them in this picture?

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Re: Beautiful man with glasses- New released lost tapes
« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2020, 10:50:50 PM »
1980 comparison.

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« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2020, 11:11:01 PM »
1980 comparison.

Arnold forgot to bring his traps.

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Re: Beautiful man with glasses- New released lost tapes
« Reply #42 on: April 01, 2020, 12:25:47 AM »


This is what a real bodybuilder looks like in clothing.  There is a pciture of Zane holding a pumpkin and its another great example of what men shouild look like.  Fantastic..

Great shot, today’s freaks are a circus show.

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Re: Beautiful man with glasses- New released lost tapes
« Reply #43 on: April 01, 2020, 02:01:27 AM »
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Amazingly fluid transitions and poses hit perfectly. I swear some people just have it. It's an art.

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« Reply #44 on: April 01, 2020, 03:40:36 AM »
Arnold forgot to bring his traps.
But he and his surgeon sure remembered to bring the calves.

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« Reply #45 on: April 01, 2020, 03:58:48 PM »
Came in expecting Nasser


Got a fucking meth head.


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Re: Beautiful man with glasses- New released lost tapes
« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2020, 04:10:07 PM »
Arnold forgot to bring his traps.



Also, look at how lacking his triceps are from the back and compared to Dickerson and Zane, neither of them known for their arms. They appear almost nonexistent in this shot.

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Re: Beautiful man with glasses- New released lost tapes
« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2020, 09:29:13 PM »
I took this revealing photo at the prejudging of the 1980 Mr Olympia in Sydney. This was the first call out. In those days they randomly picked a choice from the judges about who they wanted to be compared.

Mike smirked because he figured he was going to beat Arnold. Arnold hung his head as if to say, "Why did I enter!"

Things changed when Arnold was called out to be compared. He was confident now and played the audience, judges and everyone else who was there.

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Re: Beautiful man with glasses- New released lost tapes
« Reply #48 on: April 01, 2020, 10:13:05 PM »
Mike's back, 1980

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« Reply #49 on: April 03, 2020, 04:33:38 AM »