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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2006, 10:52:29 AM »
405 is heavy as all hell.  Incredibly heavy.  The gym stops when anyone benches or presses that much, usually.  490?  Holy crap.  If the guy is really that strong, this shouldn't be the only vid clip of him.  We should see more. 

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« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2006, 10:58:39 AM »
He makes 240s 405 pound squat for 20 reps seem that much less impressive.
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« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2006, 10:58:52 AM »
Okay so that proves it is not on a machine.

His hands are wide supporting the bar.  When you put 500 on a bench the bar doesn't bend much either, cause trhe supports are supporting bar near the weight.  If you place a bar with that much weight on it with supports closer to the center of the bar the bar will bend.  It is very obvious the people who think this is fake have NOT seen many people lift 400+ pounds in the gym in any lift.  The deadlift a bar will bend cause the hands are closer together.

That means nothing.  It could be from another manufaturer, it could be newer or older.  Why do you constantly post posts that prove you don't train or possibly never been in a gym.

Dan-O I am surprised at you.  If you lift heavy weight very smoothly and at a constant speed the weights will not move clang or shake.  It is the stop at the top and bottom that cause the weight to shake and clang.  Unsteady lowering and pressing bar will do it to.  I could easily bench 405 for reps up to a point where the weight make absolutely no noise, same speed very smooth.  He doesn't go down all the way or up all the way.  They are clean steady reps.  I admit this weight is unreal and it appears the guy is strong as hell  He has enormouse forearms and from the one pic his back and shoulders look to me he could possibly do this. He does do it kind of easy but who knows.  But most of the things guys say on here of why theythink it is fake have absolutely not one bearing.

Youguys need to go join a gym.  Have someone put 500 on the bench and look at it and see if the bars bends.  If it does then the bar sucks and they need to buy a new one. And a Texas bar would not bend with jst 500 on it especially with it being supported where he is supporting it.  And wheteher he is natural or not is defitiely questinable.  But eatingn 3 times a day maybe right considering these guys in Japan like this eat 5,000 calories a meal easy
  I agree with everything you say. The thing that makes me suspect is the way  he's banging out reps with that kind of weight just looks too easy.

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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2006, 11:01:38 AM »
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Okay so that proves it is not on a machine.

His hands are wide supporting the bar.  When you put 500 on a bench the bar doesn't bend much either, cause trhe supports are supporting bar near the weight.  If you place a bar with that much weight on it with supports closer to the center of the bar the bar will bend.  It is very obvious the people who think this is fake have NOT seen many people lift 400+ pounds in the gym in any lift.  The deadlift a bar will bend cause the hands are closer together.

I understand physics well, Thanks but it is off in some way... I am not disputing it entirely and I've seen many 500lbs + get risen a few time to know what I'm looking @....

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« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2006, 11:02:42 AM »
Okay so that proves it is not on a machine.

His hands are wide supporting the bar.  When you put 500 on a bench the bar doesn't bend much either, cause trhe supports are supporting bar near the weight.  If you place a bar with that much weight on it with supports closer to the center of the bar the bar will bend.  It is very obvious the people who think this is fake have NOT seen many people lift 400+ pounds in the gym in any lift.  The deadlift a bar will bend cause the hands are closer together.

That means nothing.  It could be from another manufaturer, it could be newer or older.  Why do you constantly post posts that prove you don't train or possibly never been in a gym.

Dan-O I am surprised at you.  If you lift heavy weight very smoothly and at a constant speed the weights will not move clang or shake.  It is the stop at the top and bottom that cause the weight to shake and clang.  Unsteady lowering and pressing bar will do it to.  I could easily bench 405 for reps up to a point where the weight make absolutely no noise, same speed very smooth.  He doesn't go down all the way or up all the way.  They are clean steady reps.  I admit this weight is unreal and it appears the guy is strong as hell  He has enormouse forearms and from the one pic his back and shoulders look to me he could possibly do this. He does do it kind of easy but who knows.  But most of the things guys say on here of why theythink it is fake have absolutely not one bearing.

Youguys need to go join a gym.  Have someone put 500 on the bench and look at it and see if the bars bends.  If it does then the bar sucks and they need to buy a new one. And a Texas bar would not bend with jst 500 on it especially with it being supported where he is supporting it.  And wheteher he is natural or not is defitiely questinable.  But eatingn 3 times a day maybe right considering these guys in Japan like this eat 5,000 calories a meal easy

Well I certainly could be wrong, I'm definitely not an expert.  It did cross my mind what you said, that maybe the weights wouldn't bob up & down with the wide grip he's got.

With the seeming ease that he puts that weight up so smoothly for reps, it looks like he'd be good for another 50-100 lbs. for a max single.  Which would basically mean he'd be military pressing roughly the current world record weight for superheavyweight olympic lifters in the clean & jerk.  Do you really think that's feasible??

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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2006, 11:04:46 AM »
I think he did the weight legit, but after seeing that back pic of him, there's no way I would ever believe he's natural. I'm calling BS on the natural claim.
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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2006, 11:08:38 AM »
natural or not that's fucking nasty!

it still takes more than what most of us got to get to that kinda weight! juiced or otherwise! respect the man!

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« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2006, 11:10:37 AM »
3x a day and natural....

Yeah, right.  If this guy was real, there would be more pictures online of him and he'd be doing some sort of strength events.  If he was half that size he'd be the best lifter in Asia, so why not compete.

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« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2006, 11:16:17 AM »
3x a day and natural....

Yeah, right.  If this guy was real, there would be more pictures online of him and he'd be doing some sort of strength events.  If he was half that size he'd be the best lifter in Asia, so why not compete.

Agreed, unless he has the mindset of a Vic Richards.. ???

How about ol'e Bolo Yung.... Could he be a kin to this beast....

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« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2006, 11:17:57 AM »
He's doing half reps.  That is certainly easier that doing full reps.  Regardless of that it looks fake to me.  The reps are to easy for that enormous weight.  If he could really handle that weight he would be able to pick up the stones and press the log over head in strong man comps blowing away the competition.

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« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2006, 11:25:40 AM »
natural or not that's fucking nasty!

it still takes more than what most of us got to get to that kinda weight! juiced or otherwise! respect the man!

 I agree 100%. Even juiced to the gills, that's a shitload of weight. I just hate when people claim to be natural when they're not.  Makes them look like an insecure tool.
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« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2006, 11:29:35 AM »
The guy's a beast.  His forearms look as large as his head in that video.

Something not right about that weight . . . as someone else pointed out Hosseini Rezazadeh would be hard pressed to clean and jerk what this guys is effortlessly pressing.

But, onlyme is right about the fact that just b/c it looks easy doesn't mean it's fake. I've trained with some beasts, and the thing I've noticed is that they never seem to strain--no matter if it's 225 or 495. No legs skittering around on the floor, no torso twisting, just clean up and down movements. Almost Zen.

We all know he's not natural.  Unless he's a shaved yeti.

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« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2006, 11:32:37 AM »
I don't see anything unbelievable about this video. There is no "sticking point" because he's doing partial reps. He might could do around 400 for full reps - extremely strong but not unheard of.

It is his other lifts that I have trouble believing (800 deadlift for 10 reps, etc).
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« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2006, 11:33:08 AM »
is there anyone else who can claim that kind of weight? strongthanall, the guy with the unofficial incline bench record, has done 530 incline for one and 440 for a single shoulder press. a guy doing 490 for easy reps behind his head would be able to raw press over most guys' shirted maxes.

the first rep looked just as easy as the 5th, so either he had a hell of a lot more in him since we didn't see him stop or he's so good with time under tension he had that much weight perfectly controlled. either way it means he'd be definitely capable of pushing more, and more still if he did it to the front. so that might be, what, a 600 pound shoulder press to the front for a single?  ::)

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« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2006, 11:34:00 AM »
I don't see anything unbelievable about this video. There is no "sticking point" because he's doing partial reps. He might could do around 400 for full reps - extremely strong but not unheard of.


That kind of partial is better than most "full" reps I've seen in all the gyms I've ever been to.

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« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2006, 11:40:18 AM »
3x a day and natural....

Yeah, right.  If this guy was real, there would be more pictures online of him and he'd be doing some sort of strength events.  If he was half that size he'd be the best lifter in Asia, so why not compete.

You've put your foot in your mouth. Asians (far east asians) dominate weightlifting. The Chinese have a systematic program of weight training designed to produce champions.

In the 2004 Olympics far east asian men caputured 5 medals (2G, 3S medals). Asians (discounting far east) captured 5 medals (3G, 1S, 1B medals). So 10 medals went to Asia from the 24 possible (8 weight classes and 3 medals per class).

In the womens division asian women (all asians not just far east) took home 12 medals (6G, 4S, 2B) of the 21 total medals. Needless to say the last time the US men won a medal in weightlifting was in the boycotted 1984 games where the Russians and Warsaw Pact countries stayed away. (still couldnt get a gold which was taken by Dean Lukin of Australia). Then Taranenko (or was it Kurlovitch) said that Lukin lifted for gold what he does for a light training day.

http://www.iwf.net/iwf/events/results/results_e2.php?placecod=4#men

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« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2006, 11:46:59 AM »
A statement made in another site...


When he was a high school student, he started the weight training for the
reinforcement of the judo.

The weight of the benchpress that he had enumerated for the first time was 180
kg ....

In addition, his grip was an extraordinary level.
He has destroyed the hand dynamometer that can measure 100kg...

When a deadlift is done by 370kg, he doesn't use the strap at all...
It is used because it contradicts his training belief.

He is managing the training gym in the recesses of a mountain of Hyogo
Prefecture in Japan now. Of course, a general member doesn't gather because it is in the heart of the mountains, and it doesn't advertise his gym at all. It is only a real hard-core trainees that gather in his gym.

Mr.OGAWA is called a "GOD" among hard-core trainees in Japan.
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« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2006, 11:47:35 AM »
is there anyone else who can claim that kind of weight? strongthanall, the guy with the unofficial incline bench record, has done 530 incline for one and 440 for a single shoulder press. a guy doing 490 for easy reps behind his head would be able to raw press over most guys' shirted maxes.

the first rep looked just as easy as the 5th, so either he had a hell of a lot more in him since we didn't see him stop or he's so good with time under tension he had that much weight perfectly controlled. either way it means he'd be definitely capable of pushing more, and more still if he did it to the front. so that might be, what, a 600 pound shoulder press to the front for a single?  ::)

They aren't full reps, which makes a huge difference in how much weight you can use. It is impossible to compare lifts performed with a different range of motion.

Anyone with a high 500's bench could probably press around 400 behind the neck if they trained for it. Even Ed Coan supposedly did a 400 BNP.
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« Reply #43 on: April 18, 2006, 11:49:12 AM »
A statement made in another site...


When he was a high school student, he started the weight training for the
reinforcement of the judo.

The weight of the benchpress that he had enumerated for the first time was 180
kg ....

In addition, his grip was an extraordinary level.
He has destroyed the hand dynamometer that can measure 100kg...

When a deadlift is done by 370kg, he doesn't use the strap at all...
It is used because it contradicts his training belief.

He is managing the training gym in the recesses of a mountain of Hyogo
Prefecture in Japan now. Of course, a general member doesn't gather because it is in the heart of the mountains, and it doesn't advertise his gym at all. It is only a real hard-core trainees that gather in his gym.

Mr.OGAWA is called a "GOD" among hard-core trainees in Japan.


I'm actually making a pilgrimage to Hyogo this summer. I hope that some of his greatness wil descend on me.

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« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2006, 11:51:01 AM »
So does anyone know why info about this guy is suddenly blitzing the boards? Japanese April Fools' joke finally makes it to the US?

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« Reply #45 on: April 18, 2006, 11:52:39 AM »
Obviously even with partials weight that heavy would have momentum that isn't seen in that video. Yet he still manages to do them so smoothly that it looks part of a Smith machine.

Funny how many don't realize the weights are fake.

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« Reply #46 on: April 18, 2006, 11:52:49 AM »
Anyone with a high 500's bench could probably press around 400 behind the neck if they trained for it. Even Ed Coan supposedly did a 400 BNP.

even ed coan? coan's a fucking legend, top 5 powerlifters of all time. if he's doing -a- 400 pound bnp that's still light years behind this dude repping out 495 like it's nothing. sta, a dude that trains for various singles, can do 450 partial shoulder press off of support pins to the front, and he's got a 530 full range incline bench. so no, a 495 bnp for easy reps isn't common by any means.

and of course, figures he trains by himself in the mountains. probably doesn't compete because he doesn't believe in it. i wonder if he and isaac nesser know each other?  ::)

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« Reply #47 on: April 18, 2006, 11:55:28 AM »
http://web4.climo.jp/bbs/?bid=112216&rest=1145185094

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« Reply #48 on: April 18, 2006, 11:56:24 AM »
Enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Who gives a rats arse if its real or fake, He still looks like shit.

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« Reply #49 on: April 18, 2006, 12:01:33 PM »
Enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Who gives a rats arse if its real or fake, He still looks like shit.

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