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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #125 on: April 21, 2006, 02:25:00 PM »
my man, i may not be all alzheimered up remembering what i think i used to do with the pros back in the 1970s, but i am no stranger to holding heavy weights or watching people hold heavy weights. 495 on bnp? no, i'll admit that's one i haven't seen, nor have i seen it yet.

but, since you're trying to get everything together, i'll tell you what. you get any kind of actual hard evidence that this guy isn't full of shit, and i will apologize for all the shit i've said in this thread. deal?

Well I can say the same thing.  Get me hard evidence it isn't a fake.  The way I am I like to believe just about anyone.  And I do this until I see I am wrong.  I admit these things.  He is doing the weight way to easy.  But I can't come on here and bash this guy because it looks to easy.  WHo knows, this guy just might be that strong.  You or I or anyone else doesn't know for sure. Second, the constant speed is a little suspect just because of the weight.  Now, I promise you I have done 315 BNP exactly like this except I go down farther, but I could easily do 315 like this.  So, since I was not taking roids like this guy probably does or even lift that seriously, I can imagine someone could do allot heavier than me and make it look easy.  Till I saw Kazmaier DB curls the 100's like they were empty bars I didn't think anyone could do them that easy. 

I give everyone the benefit of the doubt.  In my sport you had too.  Cause a skinny guy could easily beat a big muscular guy.  You definitely couldn't judge a book by its cover.  As unrealistic as this guy seems to make that lift look, I am giving him the benefit of the doubt until proven 100% wrong.  Plus after seeing his picture from behind the guy defintiely has the size and thickness to do that weight.

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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #126 on: April 21, 2006, 02:27:32 PM »
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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #127 on: April 21, 2006, 05:58:27 PM »
Well I can say the same thing.  Get me hard evidence it isn't a fake.  The way I am I like to believe just about anyone.  And I do this until I see I am wrong.  I admit these things.  He is doing the weight way to easy.  But I can't come on here and bash this guy because it looks to easy.  WHo knows, this guy just might be that strong.  You or I or anyone else doesn't know for sure. Second, the constant speed is a little suspect just because of the weight.  Now, I promise you I have done 315 BNP exactly like this except I go down farther, but I could easily do 315 like this.  So, since I was not taking roids like this guy probably does or even lift that seriously, I can imagine someone could do allot heavier than me and make it look easy.  Till I saw Kazmaier DB curls the 100's like they were empty bars I didn't think anyone could do them that easy. 

I give everyone the benefit of the doubt.  In my sport you had too.  Cause a skinny guy could easily beat a big muscular guy.  You definitely couldn't judge a book by its cover.  As unrealistic as this guy seems to make that lift look, I am giving him the benefit of the doubt until proven 100% wrong.  Plus after seeing his picture from behind the guy defintiely has the size and thickness to do that weight.

fair enough, man. guess i've been bullshitted way too many times to give the benefit of the doubt. i don't lie that i have a very grim view of the internet and the videos that get passed around. i have no reason to dislike the guy or to want him to be lying, no matter what he's outlifting me by a mile, i just find it hard to believe some unknown is pulling off a lift that would impress top-levels.

as for the 315 thing, that doesn't mean a whole whole lot. there are naturals deadlifting in the high 600s and low 700s, but the record is still 971. and that's on the deadlift. thus far i haven't heard of anyone doing 5 plates that easily on shoulder presses aside from the kovacs bullshit story, so hearing that this dude is repping it out behind the neck easily baffles me.

no one's saying he's weak, but i can't help but wonder if that middle-most plate is wood. 405 bnp is no joke, it's just that extra plate that pushes it a bit too far to me.

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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #128 on: April 21, 2006, 06:08:07 PM »
fair enough, man. guess i've been bullshitted way too many times to give the benefit of the doubt. i don't lie that i have a very grim view of the internet and the videos that get passed around. i have no reason to dislike the guy or to want him to be lying, no matter what he's outlifting me by a mile, i just find it hard to believe some unknown is pulling off a lift that would impress top-levels.

as for the 315 thing, that doesn't mean a whole whole lot. there are naturals deadlifting in the high 600s and low 700s, but the record is still 971. and that's on the deadlift. thus far i haven't heard of anyone doing 5 plates that easily on shoulder presses aside from the kovacs bullshit story, so hearing that this dude is repping it out behind the neck easily baffles me.

no one's saying he's weak, but i can't help but wonder if that middle-most plate is wood. 405 bnp is no joke, it's just that extra plate that pushes it a bit too far to me.

  It's obviously fake. The guy looks like he could have done it in his sleep ::)

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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #129 on: April 22, 2006, 02:45:57 AM »
Okay I am still getting everything together.  I'd like to see more pics and video too.  Does he have anymore.  Can you ask him if he knows David Halton in Japan.

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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #130 on: April 22, 2006, 02:52:55 AM »
kyomu, you moron, why you continue this stupidity. Just admit that video is fake, and you may leave in peace. I am 47 years old, I know all great lifters in this country, and I have been counting reps when real guy do real reps with 450 lbs. It doesn't look like that fake video, it look like there is some gravity to beat and some laws of physic to defeat. There is no man in this earth who make reps with that kind of weight with no effort at all, and more than that, there not even going to be any asian guy who can do that... I know you are full of shit, you lying little f**cker, I know who you are and where you live, so pretty please; shut the f*ck up. And by the way, why are you using that pirated windows, don't you have money to buy one? And  why do you have that child porn in you hard disk? Are you some kind of pervert?

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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #132 on: April 22, 2006, 07:06:35 AM »
How do you know that?
You can do many things with computer, if you know how. It isn't just a machine made to use for daily chitchat in some forums  :o 

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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #133 on: April 22, 2006, 07:23:33 AM »
You can do many things with computer, if you know how. It isn't just a machine made to use for daily chitchat in some forums  :o 
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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #134 on: April 22, 2006, 08:36:25 AM »
stop fucking off, the vid link no worky

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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #135 on: April 22, 2006, 08:49:55 AM »
stop fucking off, the vid link no worky

it does work . . . dude's ROM is of the Dorian/Ronnie school . . . he's almost upright and pulling   to his waist.

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« Reply #136 on: April 22, 2006, 08:51:53 AM »
should be more bar bend b/c of his grip, but there's not . . . but then again, he appears to be wider than Markus Ruhl or Jay Cutler.

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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #137 on: April 22, 2006, 03:42:48 PM »
I don't know guys, it would be really tough to manipulate all those fake weights and still be as massive as this guy is.  Face it, there are probably people on this Earth who are bigger than Ronnie or Dorian ever dreamed of being.  Hell, they could be locked away in prison and competing in underground fighting for the wardens.  ;D.  This guy does appear to be massive.  If it were 405 and not 495, I bet there would not be this controversy.  Ted Arcidi did 410 behind the head presses with ease.  Maybe this guy is a true freak.  Who cares if he is from Japan; have you ever seen a 600 pound sumo.  They may be fat, but underneath is a lot of power and strength.  I bet a trained sumo would destroy most normal sized guys if he hit him at full speed.  We have guys benching over 900 pounds, maybe a 500 pound shoulder press is not that much of a stretch.

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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #138 on: April 22, 2006, 03:44:27 PM »
I don't know guys, it would be really tough to manipulate all those fake weights and still be as massive as this guy is.  Face it, there are probably people on this Earth who are bigger than Ronnie or Dorian ever dreamed of being.  Hell, they could be locked away in prison and competing in underground fighting for the wardens.  ;D.  This guy does appear to be massive.  If it were 405 and not 495, I bet there would not be this controversy.  Ted Arcidi did 410 behind the head presses with ease.  Maybe this guy is a true freak.  Who cares if he is from Japan; have you ever seen a 600 pound sumo.  They may be fat, but underneath is a lot of power and strength.  I bet a trained sumo would destroy most normal sized guys if he hit him at full speed.  We have guys benching over 900 pounds, maybe a 500 pound shoulder press is not that much of a stretch.

    Are you saying big guys can't make a video with fake weights? ::)

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« Reply #139 on: April 22, 2006, 03:56:01 PM »

    Are you saying big guys can't make a video with fake weights? ::)

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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #140 on: April 22, 2006, 03:56:46 PM »
Obviously even with partials weight that heavy would have momentum that isn't seen in that video. Yet he still manages to do them so smoothly that it looks part of a Smith machine.

Funny how many don't realize the weights are fake.
the first couple of times I saw the video, I really thought he was doing it in a smith machine, so it didnt seem suspicious to me that the reps were that smooth. I call bullshit as well.
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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #141 on: April 22, 2006, 03:58:20 PM »
translation: "I'm an extremely bitter 160 pounder who can't resist commenting on the new Godzirra every chance I get."

  I think the guy has a great physique, but I really don't want that kind of size. The lift looks fake to me, plain and simple. In case you can't tell, I respond to every post a great number of times ;D

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« Reply #142 on: April 22, 2006, 04:00:00 PM »
  I think the guy has a great physique, but I really don't want that kind of size. The lift looks fake to me, plain and simple. In case you can't tell, I respond to every post a great number of times ;D

maybe you have a lot of bitterness to work through  ???

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« Reply #143 on: April 22, 2006, 04:01:43 PM »
maybe you have a lot of bitterness to work through  ???

   Could you explain please? Many people have commented that the lift looks fake. I'm not seeing your point.

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« Reply #144 on: April 22, 2006, 09:10:40 PM »
could be true,because a freind of mine in Calgary,ab.named grant mcreynolds does standing pbn with 405lbs,he is also on those world stronman contests.I have seen him do at least 6 to 7 reps many of times,he also does shrugs with 8 plates a side(but get this,he does it with no straps)check him out or ask around he works out out at "the gym" and "pro bodies".

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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #145 on: April 22, 2006, 09:12:27 PM »
could be true,because a freind of mine in Calgary,ab.named grant mcreynolds does standing pbn with 405lbs,he is also on those world stronman contests.I have seen him do at least 6 to 7 reps many of times,he also does shrugs with 8 plates a side(but get this,he does it with no straps)check him out or ask around he works out out at "the gym" and "pro bodies".

 
    He does World's Strongest Man contests and he reps 4 plates. This guy casually does 5 plates. ::)

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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #146 on: April 22, 2006, 09:30:01 PM »
kyomu - I was just reading back through this thread and realised I'd missed some of the info about this monster. So he is around 5'1' and 300 pounds. And then there is that pic of him from the back.
If those details are correct (I have no reason to doubt you out of hand) then I really hope you can get ahold of this guy, or some more pics or some video that was a little less grainy.
Judging by the vid of him bnp 490 - if he is that short that goes some way to explaining why his torso is so motionless while he reps the weight. And given the size of his forearms as well...
The closest I have personally seen to this guy is a former world class powerlifter who became a bodybuilder who used to train at a gym I belonged to which he now owns.
He was just under 225 pounds at about 5'1'ish. Had a back like a tortoise and massive all over plus a tiny waist. I'm pretty sure he had a best bench of around 570 (when he was powerlifting - I'd have to check on that) but I personally watched him repping 405 for 12 (no spotter) and pausing on his chest for the last few reps of the set. Given that your boy is 60 odd pounds plus at about the same height I find it conceivable that he could indeed be doing the weights shown in the vids.

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« Reply #147 on: April 22, 2006, 09:32:41 PM »
1.65 m is roughly 5'5"

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« Reply #148 on: April 22, 2006, 09:46:26 PM »
well we don't know exactly what height he but somewhere around 5'1 to 5'5 kyomu thinks

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Re: Behind neck press over 490lbs!!!!!!!!!! Thats my old friend. no joke.
« Reply #149 on: April 22, 2006, 09:53:04 PM »
kyomu - I was just reading back through this thread and realised I'd missed some of the info about this monster. So he is around 5'1' and 300 pounds. And then there is that pic of him from the back.
If those details are correct (I have no reason to doubt you out of hand) then I really hope you can get ahold of this guy, or some more pics or some video that was a little less grainy.
Judging by the vid of him bnp 490 - if he is that short that goes some way to explaining why his torso is so motionless while he reps the weight. And given the size of his forearms as well...
The closest I have personally seen to this guy is a former world class powerlifter who became a bodybuilder who used to train at a gym I belonged to which he now owns.
He was just under 225 pounds at about 5'1'ish. Had a back like a tortoise and massive all over plus a tiny waist. I'm pretty sure he had a best bench of around 570 (when he was powerlifting - I'd have to check on that) but I personally watched him repping 405 for 12 (no spotter) and pausing on his chest for the last few reps of the set. Given that your boy is 60 odd pounds plus at about the same height I find it conceivable that he could indeed be doing the weights shown in the vids.

  That's why Nesser's lifts are also believable.