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Re: Coronavirus - Hydroxychloroquine - Will it kill the virus?
« Reply #75 on: April 07, 2020, 01:18:32 AM »
Lol, Trump and his friends have shares in companies which produce the drug

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-malaria-drug.html

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« Reply #76 on: April 07, 2020, 01:23:40 AM »
I wouldn't know because I very rarely ever pay attention MSM whether it's yea of or nay Trump. What I know is that he is a blowhard and a lot of people hang on his every word as if it were gospel. But then, a goodly number of people believe everything that's written in the bible is factual.

When you're constantly putting yourself in the public's eye, you naturally will get blamed for almost everything that happens in most places, most of the time. This comes with the territory.

Prove them wrong. Both of us will be dead and forgoten, the Bible will prevail. Who is wright?

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Re: Hydroxychloroquine - Good News for All.
« Reply #77 on: April 07, 2020, 04:28:31 AM »
Prove them wrong. Both of us will be dead and forgoten, the Bible will prevail. Who is wright?

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Re: Coronavirus - Hydroxychloroquine - Will it kill the virus?
« Reply #78 on: April 07, 2020, 06:24:49 AM »
LA doctor seeing success with hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19.

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https://abc7.com/health/la-doctor-seeing-success-with-hydroxychloroquine-to-treat-covid-19/6079864/

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LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- A Los Angeles doctor said he is seeing significant success in prescribing the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine in combination with zinc to treat patients with severe symptoms of COVID-19.

Hydroxychloroquine has been touted as a possible treatment for COVID-19 by President Trump among others, but it remains controversial as some experts believe it is unproven and may not be effective.

The drug has long been used for treatment of malaria and conditions such as lupus and arthritis but is not technically approved by the FDA for COVID-19. The agency, however, is encouraging trials and has provided limited emergency authorization for its use to treat COVID-19 patients.

Dr. Anthony Cardillo said he has seen very promising results when prescribing hydroxychloroquine in combination with zinc for the most severely-ill COVID-19 patients.

"Every patient I've prescribed it to has been very, very ill and within 8 to 12 hours, they were basically symptom-free," Cardillo told Eyewitness News. "So clinically I am seeing a resolution."


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Re: Coronavirus - Hydroxychloroquine - Will it kill the virus?
« Reply #79 on: April 07, 2020, 06:29:07 AM »
Cuomo: Use of antimalarial drug in New York hospitals 'anecdotally' positive.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/491358-cuomo-use-of-antimalarial-drug-in-new-york-hospitals-anecdotally?amp

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New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) said Monday that early responses to the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine "anecdotally" suggest its use in the coronavirus fight has been "effective," but that official data was still forthcoming.

Asked about the progress of the trials at his daily press briefing, Cuomo noted that state officials have allowed use of the drug in combination with the antibiotic Zithromax in hospitals "at their discretion." He said the federal government would increase supplies to New York pharmacies, but that New York has imposed a 14-day limit to protect the supplies for people who rely on it to treat other medical conditions.

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Re: Coronavirus - Hydroxychloroquine - Will it kill the virus?
« Reply #80 on: April 07, 2020, 06:33:20 AM »
Detroit rep says hydroxychloroquine, Trump helped save her life amid COVID-19 fight.

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https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/04/06/democrat-karen-whitsett-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-trump/2955430001/

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LANSING – A Democratic state representative from Detroit is crediting hydroxychloroquine — and Republican President Donald Trump who touted the drug — for saving her in her battle with the coronavirus.

State Rep. Karen Whitsett, who learned Monday she has tested positive for COVID-19, said she started taking hydroxychloroquine on March 31, prescribed by her doctor, after both she and her husband sought treatment for a range of symptoms on March 18.

"It was less than two hours" before she started to feel relief, said Whitsett, who had experienced shortness of breath, swollen lymph nodes, and what felt like a sinus infection. She is still experiencing headaches, she said.

Whitsett said she was familiar with "the wonders" of hydroxychloroquine from an earlier bout with Lyme disease, but does not believe she would have thought to ask for it, or her doctor would have prescribed it, had Trump not been touting it as a possible treatment for COVID-19.

Trump, at his daily coronavirus briefings, has repeatedly touted the drug in combination with the antibiotic azithromycin, despite criticism from health professionals that it is unproven and potentially dangerous. There have also been complaints that Trump's remarks have resulted in a shortage of the drug for those people who normally use it for its recommended purposes.

But Whitsett said Trump's comments helped in her case.

"It has a lot to do with the president ... bringing it up," Whitsett said. "He is the only person who has the power to make it a priority."

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Is this drug still being used?


DOJ probes doctor whose hydroxychloroquine claims were touted by Sean Hannity

The Justice Department is probing the communications of Vladimir Zelenko, a New York doctor who has promoted hydroxychloroquine as a coronavirus treatment.



https://www.axios.com/hydroxychloroquine-fox-news-doctor-doj-probe-59d9aeae-f23d-4a56-99b5-c2337b5cb601.html

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Is this drug still being used?


DOJ probes doctor whose hydroxychloroquine claims were touted by Sean Hannity

The Justice Department is probing the communications of Vladimir Zelenko, a New York doctor who has promoted hydroxychloroquine as a coronavirus treatment.



https://www.axios.com/hydroxychloroquine-fox-news-doctor-doj-probe-59d9aeae-f23d-4a56-99b5-c2337b5cb601.html


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No  virus/flu on the beach, sea salt/eat coconuts/coco juice/sun/physical activity = healthy body

(oh, yes don't bonk china girls for a month or 2)

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No  virus/flu on the beach, sea salt/eat coconuts/coco juice/sun/physical activity = healthy body

(oh, yes don't bonk china girls for a month or 2)

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Yeah, that's what I always thought. The beach is a place to get well and not get sick. So, what's all the fuss about folks sneaking passed the closed signs on the California beaches?


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Yeah, that's what I always thought. The beach is a place to get well and not get sick. So, what's all the fuss about folks sneaking passed the closed signs on the California beaches?



It's so obvious that dense (a la NYC) living & junk food life-style kills !.

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this guy says it will kill the virus by this much, or is he showing us how big his fat gut is?


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this guy says it will kill the virus by this much, or is he showing us how big his fat gut is?




As it’s Donald I’d guess he’s saying both - Got to love Donald & his quick witted sense of Humor.

I Take it you’re a Big Supporter & Admirer of Donald- 👍🏻 Great. 

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the other dr sanjay gupta on chloroquine & hydroxychloroquine


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the other dr sanjay gupta on chloroquine & hydroxychloroquine




Not sitting through it but I would imagine being a cardiologist its not suitable for use in patients with underlying heart conditions and far greater studies need to be done, blah blah blah. Countries using it in an undeclared trial fashion have low death rates, those who dont have high rates like many states in the USA, it won't save everyone and it can cause arrhythmia where there is a pre existing condition, but like so many, not all, of these deaths, most of these people were not off this world for very long anyway. But by all means dont use what may work over taking nothing, it seems to be working out quite well for states like new york where they wish to run that line of death rather than future liability from using medications that may work.


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Facebook, Twitter - trying to ban and delete anything regarding these studies.

I thought we were are to discuss everything, whether or not these or fake or real. 

Shouldn't we be allowed to argue and debate?



New Hydroxychloroquine Study Proves Trump Right, Says It 'Significantly' Cuts Death Rate

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2020/july/new-hydroxychloroquine-study-proves-trump-right-says-it-significantly-cuts-death-rate?fbclid=IwAR2U-9excUZDERn8ist1unoXW_3ZZ6puqEwz9_6n9twK7MiEk1o9TS5XKV4


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Hydroxychloroquine works, you just have to take it early. The coordinated effort to disavow the use of this stuff should scare everyone.

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Facebook, Twitter - trying to ban and delete anything regarding these studies.

I thought we were are to discuss everything, whether or not these or fake or real. 

Shouldn't we be allowed to argue and debate?



New Hydroxychloroquine Study Proves Trump Right, Says It 'Significantly' Cuts Death Rate

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2020/july/new-hydroxychloroquine-study-proves-trump-right-says-it-significantly-cuts-death-rate?fbclid=IwAR2U-9excUZDERn8ist1unoXW_3ZZ6puqEwz9_6n9twK7MiEk1o9TS5XKV4

Yes you would think so- it appears more & more only one side of the coin is allowed to be shown.
Is this yet more censorship?  Why they all act the same way 🙄  Yet continually allow umpteen
Amounts of Lies & Very Provocative stuff on their platforms as long as it suits their Agenda.

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Whether or not you feel it works or does not, free speech and the debate on the subject is important, not just 'banning' it from discussion.  this is from April 2020


Dr. Robin Armstrong Explains Use of Hydroxychloroquine to Treat Coronavirus

https://thetexan.news/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-treatment-robin-armstrong-video-podcast/?fbclid=IwAR0zvrsS6hVV1c3agB0RAXtccPWIU9TWMrLasFOR5YdbCReLV_KxVXfztMY



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Whether or not you feel it works or does not, free speech and the debate on the subject is important, not just 'banning' it from discussion.  this is from April 2020


Dr. Robin Armstrong Explains Use of Hydroxychloroquine to Treat Coronavirus

https://thetexan.news/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-treatment-robin-armstrong-video-podcast/?fbclid=IwAR0zvrsS6hVV1c3agB0RAXtccPWIU9TWMrLasFOR5YdbCReLV_KxVXfztMY



At every opportunity MSM & Big Social Media Very much appear to not want free speech & debate
On some subjects and are clearly censoring such topic & debate.
It’s an awfully sick agenda they have & are promoting.

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I like these responses and debates

From Colin

F. Perry Wilson, this is great stuff.  Super helpful.  I am going to use this.  The problem with this search is that no doctor is using Hydroxychloroquine (that believes in its efficacy) alone.  This is what troubles me.  Listening to these Dr.s for 2 minutes you would hear ZINC several times as part of the "cocktail".  It really bothers those seeking the truth, that you would ignore Zinc in any of your searches.   It is also troubling that none of the studies seem to be using Zinc when that is an integral part of the protocol (again according to these Dr.s).  Supposedly, Hydroxychlororquine is the bridge and Zinc is the agent that uses that bridge to adversely affect COVID-19's ability to replicate.  They use  Azithromycin too, for what purpose, I have no idea.  I have NO IDEA if this regimen actually works!  But what I do know is that you delivered great advice on how to search for a protocol that none of these "Frontline" Dr.s seem to be using.    You might find similar results adding ZINC & Azithromycin to the search field, but at least you would be searching for the actual protocol.  This seems like a study that is trying to test the cocktail, no results yet.   https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04370782

From Chris

Dr Wilson, might I respectfully suggest that you investigate how hydroxychloroquine's functionality as a TLR 7/8/9 antagonist contributes to its utility in combating COVID-19? The PubMed research you mentioned in this video tends to be flawed specifically in the Methods sections. Clinical investigations are too coarsely put together, given that the proposed mechanism of action for HCQ combating COVID-19 is dubious at best; statistical analyses as also highly suspect, due to low sample size, short duration of investigation, and missing data. HCQ is by no means a cure for COVID-19 anymore than, say, aspirin (or any NSAID) is a cure for pneumonia. But like NSAIDs for pneumonia, HCQ does have some level of justification as a treatment arm for this pandemic, as do any medications that act as TLR 7/8/9 antagonists; they have an immuno-modulatory effect that can potentially prevent ARDS from setting in if administered properly, thus stabilizing the patient so they can better combat the infection for its duration. All of this of course needs to thoroughly investigated in much better-structured studies. And there will certainly be better, more focused drug options devised over time. All that said, I find this politicization of HCQ in the media off-putting to say the least. Anyway, those are my two cents.

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By the end of this pandemic, politics would have killed more people than the virus, absolutely astounding what the left will do. As i have said on multiple threads from the start of the pandemic it works well if your not almost dead and especially where you can start using it very early in the covid cycle. It even worked in wuhan and was online in the earliest of studies before big pharma had it taken down. Cant have a pre existing cheap drug wipe out the biggest global investment in pharmaceutical ever. Story of todays world, don't be a sheep, read what you read but form your own opinions, we are fed more crap than the chinese people are by their state controlled media, drop google where you can its a lefty socialist platform. Buy your own meds online from overseas again don't fall for their crap underdosed etc, in most cases they are just cheaper and work. Inform yourself and treat yourself

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The video that Google, Facebook and Twitter are so desperately trying to block.  Whether or not it is fake or not, let people be the ones to judge, and to debate it. 


https://lbry.tv/@GeekforTruth:c/American-Doctors-Address-COVID-19-Misinformation:4

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Another aspect to the debate on if this drug is good or bad for treating the virus?


Dr. Harvey Risch, an epidemiology professor at Yale School of Public Health, said on Tuesday that he thinks hydroxychloroquine could save 75,000 to 100,000 lives if the drug is widely used to treat coronavirus.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/hydroxychloroquine-could-save-lives-ingraham-yale-professor?fbclid=IwAR3ISxvbij7yiLZHqDgrtwY5GjCvOMw-7_43zJlCA9-E4nH8QaQwzVgBoLU



Still another one with a study

https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study

Treatment with hydroxychloroquine cut the death rate significantly in sick patients hospitalized with COVID-19 – and without heart-related side-effects, according to a new study published by Henry Ford Health System. In a large-scale retrospective analysis of 2,541 patients hospitalized between March 10 and May 2, 2020 across the system’s six hospitals, the study found 13% of those treated with hydroxychloroquine alone died compared to 26.4% not treated with hydroxychloroquine. None of the patients had documented serious heart abnormalities; however, patients were monitored for a heart condition routinely pointed to as a reason to avoid the drug as a treatment for COVID-19.