Boycott Chinese products!

[SF1900]

What exactly do Americans build that are of quality? Their cars were shit for decades and still a lot of them are still. A lot of them are outsourced to mexico, Canada and China also

Funny thing is Honda, Toyota, bmw, Mercedes, nissan, etc... have a lot more their cars built in the US by Americans

I would never buy an American car.

Foreign cars are just built better.

[pellius]

time will tell, but I hope you are right and i am wrong.  I do hate knowing that it always always comes to money, BUT i do hope its different this time

Fair enough.

[Bevo]

You think our cars are shit. The Ford 150 is shit? The Mustang is shit? The Corvette is shit? Tesla is shit? The Hellcat is shit? Smith and Wesson, Ruger, Remington are shit? Apple is shit? Windows are shit? Our military hardware and planes are shit? Our food production, the largest in the world, that feeds more people in the world than any other country, is shit?

The fact that foreign manufacturers have their cars built here is proof that we don't make shit. There's a reason America leads the world and has the biggest economy.

STFU with your American bashing. Look around you. You wouldn't have nearly the quality of life you have if it was for American products. Why don't you do yourself a favor and don't buy a single item that comes from America? You can't do it.

As car companies they are shit, not individual car models and yes, SHIT, as in QUALITY and overall build, reliability, material used. How’s those 3 car companies doing btw? And Tesla has LOTS of quality issues and build quality is SHIT

I’m around cars 24/7 as it is what I do

[pellius]

I would never buy an American car.

Foreign cars are just built better.

Not me. I've had both foreign and American and much prefer American.

[Bevo]

You tell us what country sells only high-quality goods? What kind of cell phone do you have? What kind of computer? What kind of Washer and Dryer?

I’m not the one hating on China made goods here

[Bevo]

Not me. I've had both foreign and American and much prefer American.

German made Porsche’s, Mercedes, BMW, and Audi

[pellius]

As car companies they are shit, not individual car models and yes, SHIT, as in QUALITY and overall build, reliability, material used. How’s those 3 car companies doing btw? And Tesla has LOTS of quality issues and build quality is SHIT

I’m around cars 24/7 as it is what I do

Your opinion that fortunately, the majority don't agree with. Otherwise there would be no American cars. I'm taking advice from a car salesman. Please avoid all American products. We will do fine without you.

[pellius]

I’m not the one hating on China made goods here

You're right, I am. You're just hating on American goods. Very bright and rational. Good to know who supports the ChiComs over Americans though you would never ever want to live in China.

You have your priorities straight.

[Bevo]

Your opinion that fortunately, the majority don't agree with. Otherwise there would be no American cars. I'm taking advice from a car salesman. Please avoid all American products. We will do fine without you.

The majority agree that foreign car companies like Toyota is number 1 and German and European luxury is number 1 in the world

Meanwhile besides ford who was taking bail outs?

As far as Apple and all those you named, where are those products made? That was my whole point, I wasn’t saying American inventors or companies, I was stating specifically AMERICAN MADE QUALITY and where are these affordable products that are made in the USA that the common man is looking for instead of China made products

The whole debate was made in the USA products specifically

[pellius]

German made Porsche’s, Mercedes, BMW, and Audi

Your point? Are you one of those shallow thinkers that believe that just because someone says they like and prefer one thing over something else you conclude that it must mean they dislike and consider the other thing shit? If someone prefers a Cadillac does that mean they dislike and think Mercedes is shit?

Jeeze man, do you think anything through?

[SF1900]

Not me. I've had both foreign and American and much prefer American.

I feel the opposite. To each their own, I guess.

[Bevo]

Your point? Are you one of those shallow thinkers that believe that just because someone says they like and prefer one thing over something else you conclude that it must mean they dislike and consider the other thing shit? If someone prefers a Cadillac does that mean they dislike and think Mercedes is shit?

Jeeze man, do you think anything through?

Do you?

My whole debate was products MADE IN USA, that was it, then you went on and on about American companies hahaha

Sales state otherwise my chinese/black friend

[pellius]

The majority agree that foreign car companies like Toyota is number 1 and German and European luxury is number 1 in the world

Meanwhile besides ford who was taking bail outs?

As far as Apple and all those you named, where are those products made? That was my whole point, I wasn’t saying American inventors or companies, I was stating specifically AMERICAN MADE QUALITY and where are these affordable products that are made in the USA that the common man is looking for instead of China made products

The whole debate was made in the USA products specifically

No matter what ranking a car company is the fact that they are still in business means that people are buying their products and not everybody is buying a Toyota. And not everybody are buying luxury cars. In fact, most aren't.

American products are made all over the world with American quality control that you don't have from Chinese made products. And a lot of foreign products are made here in America. I thought you would know this as a car salesman.

[pellius]

I feel the opposite. To each their own, I guess.

No guess. Fact.

[Bevo]

No matter what ranking a car company is the fact that they are still in business means that people are buying their products and not everybody is buying a Toyota. And not everybody are buying luxury cars. In fact, most aren't.

American products are made all over the world with American quality control that you don't have from Chinese made products. And a lot of foreign products are made here in America. I thought you would know this as a car salesman.

Bail outs

Statistically Toyota sales are higher than American car manufacturers in America’s homeland, and Cadillac went through 2 GM’s and fired their recent one, company is in trouble in sales, these are facts. Dodge/Chrysler had to be bought out by Italians



I am not a sales person, my chinese black friend

[SF1900]

No guess. Fact.

Fact is, companies like Toyota and Honda are more reliable than American cars.

[pellius]

Do you?

My whole debate was products MADE IN USA, that was it, then you went on and on about American companies hahaha

Sales state otherwise my chinese/black friend

You're not my friend and think of your own questions to ask instead of parroting what I say.

And you claim that there are no quality products made exclusively in America. NO products.
If you had to choose between buying Foster Farms chicken or chicken made from China which would you choose? No matter what your answer you will be exposed as a liar. Checkmate. Which BTW, I won my first chess match today in 11 moves.

What we have learned here is that you prefer to "hate" on America instead of the Chinese. Just another ungrateful anti-American who would be living under Communism or Nazism if it wasn't for us.

Thanks for your noncontribution to this very trying time in this world. Bash America but not the country that has put us in this position. Ingrate.

[Bevo]

Fact is, companies like Toyota and Honda are more reliable than American cars.

Those are facts, been reported and documented  

[Bevo]

You're not my friend and think of your own questions to ask instead of parroting what I say.

And you claim that there are no quality products made exclusively in America. NO products.
If you had to choose between buying Foster Farms chicken or chicken made from China which would you choose? No matter what your answer you will be exposed as a liar. Checkmate. Which BTW, I won my first chess match today in 11 moves.

What we have learned here is that you prefer to "hate" on America instead of the Chinese. Just another ungrateful anti-American who would be living under Communism or Nazism if it wasn't for us.

Thanks for your noncontribution to this very trying time in this world. Bash America but not the country that has put us in this position. Ingrate.

Does that mean if I come down to Hawaii I won’t have a place to stay or sushi to eat since we aren’t friends?

[pellius]

Bail outs

Statistically Toyota sales are higher than American car manufacturers in America’s homeland, and Cadillac went through 2 GM’s and fired their recent one, company is in trouble in sales, these are facts. Dodge/Chrysler had to be bought out by Italians



I am not a sales person, my chinese black friend

What about it? That says nothing about quality. Sales can be higher but it's not 100%. Many people buy other cars other than Toyota. Why is that so difficult to understand? And if you are not a car salesman then what are you? Why didn't you just say what you do "to be around cars all the time"? You're an oil changer? Install batteries? Mechanic? Why the big secret?

[Bevo]

What about it? That says nothing about quality. Sales can be higher but it's not 100%. Many people buy other cars other than Toyota. Why is that so difficult to understand? And if you are not a car salesman then what are you? Why didn't you just say what you do "to be around cars all the time"? You're an oil changer? Install batteries? Mechanic? Why the big secret?

My real job is In N Out burger, we have car shows all the time, is there a problem with my profession? An oil changer, or mechanic? What’s the problem?

What do you not get? That American car companies are struggling big time? Is that not true?

[pellius]

Fact is, companies like Toyota and Honda are more reliable than American cars.

That hasn't been my experience. My Ford Ranger last way longer and with much less upkeep than the Nissan I had. But what's your point? You prefer to buy foreign cars and I have no problem with that? Why are you trying to convince me and make an argument about why foreign cars are better? Why do you care?

[pellius]

Does that mean if I come down to Hawaii I won’t have a place to stay or sushi to eat since we aren’t friends?

You can't afford a Hawaiian vacation.

[Bevo]

You can't afford a Hawaiian vacation.

Right now it’s pretty cheap

Why the personal attacks and not a civil discussion, a man your age I would expect to be more courteous

[pellius]

My real job is In N Out burger, we have car shows all the time, is there a problem with my profession? An oil changer, or mechanic? What’s the problem?

What do you not get? That American car companies are struggling big time? Is that not true?

In-N-Out burger is one of the things that I most miss about living on mainland. That along with Trader Joes. Props to you. Great burgers. Eating there is when I first appreciated fresh ingredients. I had no idea how much just having fresh lettuce on a burger makes such a difference.

And what does a business struggling have to do with my preferring their products? A local restaurant here that had the best plate lunch on the island and they went out of business last year. They still had the best plate lunch.