A gym should be a "necessary" business

[Coach is Back!]

coach-I’m sorry your gym is shut down. I’m doing the home workouts too. Good luck. -Gene

Thanks Gene, appreciate it. It’s been about a year and half. Wife wants to rebuild now but I’m over it.

[Bevo]

To and too. Look into it.

When English is your second language, and you can speak German as well then you can correct me

[Vince B]

Thanks Gene, appreciate it. It’s been about a year and half. Wife wants to rebuild now but I’m over it.

The gym business is risky so and how many will survive the closures? Many will be for sale in the months to come and gym equipment will be available as well.

[painfull86]

Coach, if the Nationals get cancelled, will you continue full throttle, on the gear?   

Once an addict.....whys he panicked buying gym.equipment you think?

[Bevo]

The gym business is risky so and how many will survive the closures? Many will be for sale in the months to come and gym equipment will be available as well.

There’s always 24 hour fitness, LA fitness, Lifetime, etc... I’m sure there are always gyms to work out at

[rocket]

Bottom line is if the business follows the mandated guidelines such as social distancing, no more than 10 people at a gathering, disinfect equipment before and after use and regulating, on a time block of how many people can come in per hour or every two hours or whatever the owners and management decide, keeping the facility clean on an hourly basis then there shouldn't be a problem.

Of course, a grocery store is a necessity, but most stores are not regulating how many people come in or out, the only story I've seen do this on the daily is Trader Joes. It's hard to make the argument that a grocery store (as an example) is cleaner than a well ran gym.

This bullshit that makes little sense has gone on long enough.
  

The mandated guidelines don't ensure 0% transmission.  1 transmission at your gym could ultimately cost many lives.

And you're right about the grocery stores - but the regulation is coming.

Believe me, grocery stores are going to change in the next few months.

I still can't believe I'm not being served by people in hazmat suits.  

I do feel for you, but ultimately - given the amoral way people are treating this (and the fact that even if they treat it seriously, society requires you to still go out to work and all that shit), it was for the best.

[pellius]

There’s always 24 hour fitness, LA fitness, Lifetime, etc... I’m sure there are always gyms to work out at

24, Powerhouse, Planet Fitness... all the gyms here are closed. And they are not charging you while they are closed so like every other business they are not taking in revenue and furloughing employees. So it's not just the gym members but the business as well that are suffering.

This cannot be sustained for long.

[pellius]

The mandated guidelines don't ensure 0% transmission.  1 transmission at your gym could ultimately cost many lives.

And you're right about the grocery stores - but the regulation is coming.

Believe me, grocery stores are going to change in the next few months.

I still can't believe I'm not being served by people in hazmat suits.  

I do feel for you, but ultimately - given the amoral way people are treating this (and the fact that even if they treat it seriously, society requires you to still go out to work and all that shit), it was for the best.

Cost many lives? Coronavirus is not a fatal disease to the vast majority of the population. The vast majority that gets sick don't require hospitalization. There is no such thing as 0% transmission. Nobody has required anybody to go to work ever. It is not amoral to care about people that need a way to support themselves and their families.

Do you still have a job?

[rocket]

Do you still have a job?

For the moment, yes.

We are switching to working from home in the next few days but I have still felt financial pressure to come in and do my job to keep my job. 

Nobody is getting out of this situation unscathed.  We're all going to pay dearly for this year.

[rocket]

Cost many lives? Coronavirus is not a fatal disease to the vast majority of the population. The vast majority that gets sick don't require hospitalization. There is no such thing as 0% transmission. Nobody has required anybody to go to work ever. It is not amoral to care about people that need a way to support themselves and their families.

You understand what an exponential rate does, though, right?  Someone giving it to 2.6 people can easily be a problem after a few rounds of that.

Amoral as in, there are still a huge amount of people who don't think this virus really exists.  Some think they won't get it.  Some think it doesn't matter if they get it, they are fine.

Even if they don't think that, the rest of us are being put under a financial blowtorch, too.  Business owners and employees alike.  All under pressure to both earn our money, but not transmit this disease. 

And coronavirus IS a fatal disease to a decent chunk of the population if enough of them get it to overwhelm the medical system.  Hence, the unfortunate measures being taken.  It would potentially be fatal to all of the 20% hospitalised if it gets that bad

[pellius]

For the moment, yes.

We are switching to working from home in the next few days but I have still felt financial pressure to come in and do my job to keep my job. 

Nobody is getting out of this situation unscathed.  We're all going to pay dearly for this year.

So you have income coming in. I thought so. I've found that everybody that says that we should shut down for several months on end are collecting some kind of income. You would be singing a different tune if you had zero or lost 90% of your income and could no longer afford to pay your rent or mortgage or feed your family. There are many people that have to live paycheck to paycheck and just losing one month of pay is devastating.

Do you think grocery store workers should have to go to work, too? No, of course not. You'll make an exception for them and have an "amoral" attitude towards them because you need them to provide with things you want or need. You're willing to put their lives at risks and to YOU the cost of their lives is worth it to supply your needs.

It works both ways, my friend, and the same standards you want to impose should be the same for everybody.

[pellius]

You understand what an exponential rate does, though, right?  Someone giving it to 2.6 people can easily be a problem after a few rounds of that.

Amoral as in, there are still a huge amount of people who don't think this virus really exists.  Some think they won't get it.  Some think it doesn't matter if they get it, they are fine.

Even if they don't think that, the rest of us are being put under a financial blowtorch, too.  Business owners and employees alike.  All under pressure to both earn our money, but not transmit this disease. 

And coronavirus IS a fatal disease to a decent chunk of the population if enough of them get it to overwhelm the medical system.  Hence, the unfortunate measures being taken.  It would potentially be fatal to all of the 20% hospitalised if it gets that bad

It is not any more fatal than the flu just more contagious. It has over a 99% survival rate and those who do die the vast majority of them are elderly and have preexisting conditions. It is not a fatal disease and most recover just by rest and isolating themselves. Already 30% of the people here in Hawaii diagnose with the coronavirus have recovered without hospitalization.

And I don't know where you live but everywhere around me, people are taken unprecedented precautions to protect themselves which in turn protect others. As I mentioned before, when I went to Walmart yesterday I watched as every single person stopped when they entered the store and use the sanitary wipes provided to wipe down their carts and hands. Most had some kind of face protection and everyone standing in line respected the six feet rule. To say that a "huge amount" of people that don't think this virus even exists is just patently wrong. Even those that think it's exaggerated still acknowledge that it exists. People are actually getting sick. If anything there is a nationwide panic. It's all you hear about. Everybody is aware of it. The effect on this country, on the whole world, is like nothing ever before experienced in modern times. Our behavior in so many aspects has been changed forever. Just like 9/11 permanently changed our world this will even more so. To say a "huge amount" don't take it seriously doesn't comport with real-world experience. Shit, even homeless people here have those "do-rags" covering their face and I see many of them wrapping themselves up with plastic garbage bags.

And there is big, big difference between experiencing financial pressure where you have to cut back on things and not being able to put a roof over your head and food on the table.

[rocket]

I don't see the point in debating this much further - we're living it.  The mortality rate depends on the country.  Many cases are not yet finished and some countries *cough* china *cough* are probably lying, anyway.

I don't agree with what you said in the reply before your last, about what I'm thinking of course - I don't really like to "require" anything of anybody if I can.  I don't enjoy taking a risk and going to work every day, either.  Shit, some coworkers are bringing their kids to work.  But what can I say?  We're all trying to get by.

The gyms - they were doomed anyway - who would turn up to a gym right now?  They could have left them open, wouldn't have made any difference.  

[Primemuscle]

So you would selfishly run the risk of exposing others to C—19 because you want to “feel healthier” and you’re bored?

I did not say I went to the gym, did I?

And your daughter has been quarantined for days, but no one even knows if she has the virus or not?

Since you asked, my daughter got the test results back earlier than the expected 5 days. She tested negative for COVID-19. The tests are 70% accurate. If she doesn't run a fever for 72 hours, she can come out of quarantine. There's nothing like exact science. 
 

Do you ever stop to realize how stupid you sound? Do you realize that you are exactly the demographic that the virus kills? But in your senile mind your vanity outweighs safety measures implemented to stop the spread of coronavirus and return the country to normal day-to-day operation. Jesus Christ you’re a whiny little bitch.

Like I said, although I wish I could go to the gym and it is open, I have not.

If all I was risking was my own life, then what I did would be on me alone.  Anyway, you've made it pretty clear that, for some incomprehensible reason, it would make you very happy if I died. Not that I plan on accommodating you anytime soon.

[Methyl m1ke]

I went shopping at home depot and had to wait in line 30 seconds to get in. If home depot is open my gym sure as fuck had better be or I demand an explanation as to why no one is telling us how we can go abouylt working out. Two at a time? Must wear facemasks working out? Members can only workout specific times of the day?

I dislike being told get fucked by my elected representatives. Im ready to march on sacramento. Fuck this bullshit our powers that be dont know what the fuck theyre doing. I refuse to suffer in silence. If the virus is THAT MUCH OF A DANGER then shut everything down for 2 weeks and let us go back to our lives. If its not that bad (clearly it is not) then get the fuck out of our lives let us US WE THREE PEOPLE US figure out for ourselves what we should do and if the virus takes a bunch of us out time heals all wounds. Tomorrow was never promised to no one we all know that this world is a hostile place trying to prop us up on our couches in fear eyes glued to our televisions while we pig out on fatty foods- is that really what we deserve? I mean fuck.

[pellius]

I went shopping at home depot and had to wait in line 30 seconds to get in. If home depot is open my gym sure as fuck had better be or I demand an explanation as to why no one is telling us how we can go abouylt working out. Two at a time? Must wear facemasks working out? Members can only workout specific times of the day?

I dislike being told get fucked by my elected representatives. Im ready to march on sacramento. Fuck this bullshit our powers that be dont know what the fuck theyre doing. I refuse to suffer in silence. If the virus is THAT MUCH OF A DANGER then shut everything down for 2 weeks and let us go back to our lives. If its not that bad (clearly it is not) then get the fuck out of our lives let us US WE THREE PEOPLE US figure out for ourselves what we should do and if the virus takes a bunch of us out time heals all wounds. Tomorrow was never promised to no one we all know that this world is a hostile place trying to prop us up on our couches in fear eyes glued to our televisions while we pig out on fatty foods- is that really what we deserve? I mean fuck.

Every member upon entering should have their temperature taken. They have these point and shoot thermometers that are already being used in medical facilities. All members should also have to wear facemasks. And workers should constantly be wiping down and sanitizing the equipment. In fact, there should be a disinfecting spray bottle near every other exercise equipment along with paper napkins so you can conveniently wipe down the equipment after use. I believe that most people will be aware and take the necessary precautions to protect themselves as well.

Educate people and makes them aware but the ultimate responsibility is with the individual and not some government entity.

[painfull86]

Every member upon entering should have their temperature taken. They have these point and shoot thermometers that are already being used in medical facilities. All members should also have to wear facemasks. And workers should constantly be wiping down and sanitizing the equipment. In fact, there should be a disinfecting spray bottle near every other exercise equipment along with paper napkins so you can conveniently wipe down the equipment after use. I believe that most people will be aware and take the necessary precautions to protect themselves as well.

Educate people and makes them aware but the ultimate responsibility is with the individual and not some government entity.

Yeah sounds like a real easy thing to setup in reality you senile old goat.

Gotta love the juice monkeys melting down cos they can't train. 

[pellius]

Yeah sounds like a real easy thing to setup in reality you senile old goat.

Gotta love the juice monkeys melting down cos they can't train. 

So who what was your previous gimmick? How many times have you been banned? How many times have I butthurt you with your past accounts.

I know those procedure seems hard to you because you are a retard and functionally limited. They do these things anyway at Kaiser Permanente and other facilities. When the alternative is closing your business Americans can be very adaptable. And who is melting down because they can't train? We are all still training. You should try it, phaggot. And I'm flattered that you look at me and consider me a "juice monkey". I've already posted my blood test results. But it speaks volumes how horrible you must look.

[painfull86]

So who what was your previous gimmick? How many times have you been banned? How many times have I butthurt you with your past accounts.

I know those procedure seems hard to you because you are a retard and functionally limited. They do these things anyway at Kaiser Permanente and other facilities. When the alternative is closing your business Americans can be very adaptable. And who is melting down because they can't train? We are all still training. You should try it, phaggot. And I'm flattered that you look at me and consider me a "juice monkey". I've already posted my blood test results. But it speaks volumes how horrible you must look.

meltdown

[Soul Crusher]

How about instead of being a smartass that usually has little to contribute, how about civil discussion...or just don't post in this thread.

Bro this is why I do my things w the water cans , ruck , sandbags etc.   

Can’t stop training.   

This lockdown everything nonsense is going to end up w more death and destruction than the virus over time.

[Teutonic Knight 1]

Educate people and makes them aware but the ultimate responsibility is with the individual and not some government entity.

Good 1 pellius !.

Stop baby crying , WW2 American generation didn't baby cry like today softies !.

[Primemuscle]

Every member upon entering should have their temperature taken. They have these point and shoot thermometers that are already being used in medical facilities. All members should also have to wear facemasks. And workers should constantly be wiping down and sanitizing the equipment. In fact, there should be a disinfecting spray bottle near every other exercise equipment along with paper napkins so you can conveniently wipe down the equipment after use. I believe that most people will be aware and take the necessary precautions to protect themselves as well.

Educate people and makes them aware but the ultimate responsibility is with the individual and not some government entity.

Aside from the temperature taking, this is pretty much what was going on at the gym a couple of weeks ago. Hardly anyone was wearing masks anywhere then, but this has probably changed. Why paper napkins and not paper towels? I've never seen paper napkins used at any gym I've been to.

(One thing about disinfectants is that their efficacy varies for a number of reasons. Most commercial disinfectants come in a concentrated form which is then diluted with a specific amount of water. These disinfectants degrade and should be refreshed pretty often. Another issue is that to work effectively a disinfectant needs a given amount of dwell time to kill bacteria, viruses and germs. Usually 5 minutes and up to 15 minutes. Using a disinfectant prior to using gym equipment is better than doing nothing, but it is not a guarantee that what you touch is germ and virus free. I recommend wearing protective gloves as an added precaution. Whatever you do, don't touch you face and thoroughly and frequently wash your hands.)

The government can request and even dictate what people do, but people will do pretty much as they choose anyway. Yes, the responsibility should lay with individuals. Unfortunately in this scenario, what individuals do or don't do affects all of us.   

[visualizeperfection]

Good 1 pellius !.

Stop baby crying , WW2 American generation didn't baby cry like today softies !.

Hahah yes. I was just talking about this.

Would you rather be faced with the Shanghai Shivers, or be told you’re drafted to fight the nazis in 1944? I’ll take my luck with the virus to be honest.

[funk51]

 

[keanu]

Gyms are petrie dishes with people sweating and exhaling spit all over the place. You have large groups of people gathering in a confined area. There is no way they can stay open. We can't even have funerals these days. Prisoners manage to look good with very little. I think most Getbiggers can be creative and look much the same.