This is disturbing. The rise of totalitarianism.

[friedchickendinner]

More excuses because it’s all talk. None of you will do anything about it ever. A bunch of internet badasses lol.

Btw, I’d love for the government to take care of me every day.

I'm trying to figure out if they are legitimate bad asses.

If they are, I suspect they have spent years upon years in the military, defending freedom all across the globe.

I'm looking forward to their stories.

[pellius]

What if restricting your freedom now leads to greater freedom later? Then not restricting your freedom would be unamerican.

Yes, but that is a good question and a good point. But do you really believe that is the case here? How are you supporting yourself now? I've asked you this before and you've ignored the question.

So many people are losing their livelihoods. Even those that have money what are you going to do when there are shortages. When you can't buy anything. Right now the largest producers of meat say there will be a shortage because of the restrictions and drop in business. Do you think this is the only industry where there will be shortages? As more and more people lose jobs and income and the longer and longer this goes on do you really think that the government just printing more paper money is going to fix this? Do you think that if they printed a 1,000 trillion dollars that we will now be a rich country?

The real purpose of these lockdowns is to flatten the curve. People don't understand what that means. It doesn't mean there will be fewer cases. It just means that it will prevent a spike so that hospitals aren't overwhelmed all at once. Flattening the curve does prevent these spikes but it also means that though the curve will flatten it will also be longer.

This is not a fatal disease for over 99% of the population. People recover and they move on. If what we are doing to our country continues it will cause far more hardships, sickness, crime, and disease. Wait until you get to a point when you can no longer keep a roof over your head and food on the table. Just look back in history at all the countries that use to be thriving and are now in abject poverty. Venezuela is a recent example. Compare to that, getting a bad flu for a few weeks is nothing.

[pellius]

I'm trying to figure out if they are legitimate bad asses.

If they are, I suspect they have spent years upon years in the military, defending freedom all across the globe.

I'm looking forward to their stories.

What I don't get is why is he baiting people who believe that their civil rights are being threatened and want to stand up to it. Ridiculing those that believe in the Constitution and the idea of freedom and liberty which this country was founded on. He may be fine with surrendering his rights to the government because he just ignores all the history of what happens when the people surrender their rights but why mock and bait those that hold these truths to be self-evident and are endowed with unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and, as so many have in our noble history pledge their life fortunes, and sacred honor.

Look at what's happening now and how politicians are simply ignoring the Constitution. In Michigan, the governor decreed that you can't travel even to another residence. Even if you own that residence. You can only have so many people in your own home. Not only are businesses closed but even those that are open like a Walmart or Costco have to barricade sections that are not food or medicine. If you want to buy a hammer, a water hose, paint, shoes or sandal, a shirt the stores are no longer allowed to sell it. They have to barricade those aisles. If you are not buying food or drugs then you should not be at the store.

And this is just the beginning. It sure didn't take much for the Left (the governor is a Democrat) to start to reveal their totalitarian desires and seize more power and control over the people.

[Methyl m1ke]

Would you accept any restrictions of freedom to save someone from dying or would that be unamerican?

Since I already have the answer is yes and yes.

The government does not guarantee my safety nor health nor did I ever expect them to. I expect my elected representatives to uphold the Constitution and to make educated decisions based on the overall greater good.

In a nutshell I would not ask nor expect anyone to suffer in any way shape or form so that I might live. Tomorrow is promised to no one.

Now, whether the actions of our elected representatives are with the greater good in mind I have to keep faith that they are. We the people elected these persons to their positions, we the people should support their decisions until it becomes self evident (meaning everybody can agree with certainty) that they are not.

God help us if we get to that point, but time will tell.

[Methyl m1ke]

What I don't get is why is he baiting people who believe that their civil rights are being threatened and want to stand up to it. Ridiculing those that believe in the Constitution and the idea of freedom and liberty which this country was founded on. He may be fine with surrendering his rights to the government because he just ignores all the history of what happens when the people surrender their rights but why mock and bait those that hold these truths to be self-evident and are endowed with unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and, as so many have in our noble history pledge their life fortunes, and sacred honor.

Look at what's happening now and how politicians are simply ignoring the Constitution. In Michigan, the governor decreed that you can't travel even to another residence. Even if you own that residence. You can only have so many people in your own home. Not only are businesses closed but even those that are open like a Walmart or Costco have to barricade sections that are not food or medicine. If you want to buy a hammer, a water hose, paint, shoes or sandal, a shirt the stores are no longer allowed to sell it. They have to barricade those aisles. If you are not buying food or drugs then you should not be at the store.

And this is just the beginning. It sure didn't take much for the Left (the governor is a Democrat) to start to reveal their totalitarian desires and seize more power and control over the people.

Ive been following the debacle in Michigan and Ive come to the conclusion the governor has been caught totally offguard and is pretty much clueless as to what she should do.

[Humble Narcissist]

There is a reason why I never vote for women.

[Methyl m1ke]

There is a reason why I never vote for women.

I wouldnt vote for one personally.

That said I had a good laugh when we were handed our shelter in place commands. I read up on the rules and I shit you not, you can ride a bicycle for essential exercise but not as a means of transportation.

I was like wtf why make rules you would have no hope of enforcing?

Pandemic has brought the word LAME a whole new meaning...but at least I can still go to Home Depot and actually buy whatever I want lol.

[SF1900]

No. LOL at you for being a coward and not willing to fight for your civil rights. Our entire history is replete with brave Americans standing up and fighting for their civil rights.

You can make your challenge because it's an easy one. If it ever comes to that and someone fights and defends themselves against government overreach like Randy Weaver did at Ruby Ridge they will not come back to you and say, "See, I told you so." By all indications, you have lived a rather shelter and pampered life and have no idea what kind of Americans are out there. Men of spirit and conviction. That is completing foreign to you.

And just the fact that you would like to be a ward of the State is a very good indication of what kind of man you are. Just like when you lived with your parents while in your thirties, it comes with a cost. You have to obey their rules. Don't think that when you are under government care you are also under government control. But you might not care. As you never had to fight for freedom and don't appreciate what it took to give you this freedom you have become complacent and very willing to trade your freedom for safety and security.

It's so sad that this what has become of so many American men today. So willing to give up their rights and freedoms to the government on the foolish belief that they will take care of them and put their welfare first and foremost.

You’d be sitting home on your couch with the rest of the Internet badasses lol

If possible, I’d love for the government to give me a check every month. I see no problem with the government providing most things for its people. Hell, I have been fervently checking the mailbox for my $1,200.00 check.

[friedchickendinner]

Here's my take:

They had to do something, otherwise hospitals etc would been overcrowded, not only resulting in the death of old people, but others, in there for all kinds of reasons.

They had to win time, so they could get up to speed on things, make sure there were masks, respirators etc.

The next thing to do is making sure the old people and people in society that are more important than others don't get sick.

After this has been taken care of, everyone else needs to get out there - and get infected!

A strategy would be to have Foo Fighters play every weekend for three months. This will have people in the right age and race demographic get infected.

You can't have Beyonce play - then poor black people working in hospitals would be infected.

You can't have Bruce Springsteen play - then old people would get infected.

[Vince B]

The governments at all levels have to be seen doing something to protect the health of everyone. Nothing much was done at first then too much done after the horses had bolted.

In Sydney we had a cruise ship dock and people got off and went all over Australia and many people got the virus through a few people on board.

Now cruise ships are prevented from docking in Australia except to pick up fuel and supplies. People arriving here have to stay in a hotel for 2 weeks. If they go out and are caught

they get a huge fine.

In retrospect why didn't they intercept anyone coming from China or other countries that had widespread infections? I recall that Trump wasn't too concerned when the news first

came out. Now everyone is shitting themselves trying to do something.

[Soul Crusher]

Because those dirty disgusting bat cat dog rat eating Chine lied about it and covered it up - and knowingly sent hundreds of thousands of people all over the world for months. 

The governments at all levels have to be seen doing something to protect the health of everyone. Nothing much was done at first then too much done after the horses had bolted.

In Sydney we had a cruise ship dock and people got off and went all over Australia and many people got the virus through a few people on board.

Now cruise ships are prevented from docking in Australia except to pick up fuel and supplies. People arriving here have to stay in a hotel for 2 weeks. If they go out and are caught

they get a huge fine.

In retrospect why didn't they intercept anyone coming from China or other countries that had widespread infections? I recall that Trump wasn't too concerned when the news first

came out. Now everyone is shitting themselves trying to do something.

[Matt]

Because those dirty disgusting bat cat dog rat eating Chine lied about it and covered it up - and knowingly sent hundreds of thousands of people all over the world for months. 

Yep, haha.  Because closing the borders was "racist".

So now we have a global pandemic on our hands which could result in literally MILLIONS of people dying.

But yeah...ooooh, racism, LOL.  Haha.   Oh leftists...they so moronic...

[Bevo]

Getting on with one's life is going to be extremely tough when everything is closed--most businesses will continue to adhere to government regulations, as they wouldn't want backlash, which means people still won't be able to go to to work. And, if people gather in parks, they will likely be dispersed by law enforcement. So, how are all these people going to get on with their lives with no job to to go to, no movie to attend, no concerts, no sport stadium, no bars, no restaurants, no parks, no gym, etc? Shit, even if you throw a BBQ/house party, all it takes is one neighbor to call the cops and you have them arriving at your doorsteps, telling all of your guests to go home because of social distancing. One's life, to a great extent, is totally dependent on the government.

And none of the getbiggers will do a damn thing 

[Bevo]

You’re smarter than this, I’ve read your posts. Forget about the Getbiggers, think of the loner hillbilly’s. Who’s to say after two decades of decline our population would t think the same way?

The white trash won’t do a damn thing, shooting a couple of deers, schools, and at the gun range don’t count, the hebrews and Latinos will be too busy killing each other, looting, Jordan’s and Yeezy shoes, to notice anything that’s going on

This ain’t the 1930’s and 1940’s anymore where you had legitimate bad asses, we now have guys in bunny suits

[friedchickendinner]

Overthrowing of governments are done by tiny students, not gun waving muscle men.

[Sissysquats]

Would you accept any restrictions of freedom to save someone from dying or would that be unamerican?

  Do you accept the economic bomb millions have to suffer to save .6 %?

[Bevo]

No. LOL at you for being a coward and not willing to fight for your civil rights. Our entire history is replete with brave Americans standing up and fighting for their civil rights.

You can make your challenge because it's an easy one. If it ever comes to that and someone fights and defends themselves against government overreach like Randy Weaver did at Ruby Ridge they will not come back to you and say, "See, I told you so." By all indications, you have lived a rather shelter and pampered life and have no idea what kind of Americans are out there. Men of spirit and conviction. That is completing foreign to you.

And just the fact that you would like to be a ward of the State is a very good indication of what kind of man you are. Just like when you lived with your parents while in your thirties, it comes with a cost. You have to obey their rules. Don't think that when you are under government care you are also under government control. But you might not care. As you never had to fight for freedom and don't appreciate what it took to give you this freedom you have become complacent and very willing to trade your freedom for safety and security.

It's so sad that this what has become of so many American men today. So willing to give up their rights and freedoms to the government on the foolish belief that they will take care of them and put their welfare first and foremost.

Pellius, curious to know, did you ever serve in the military? Desert storm? I assume you were too young for Nam

[Irongrip400]

  Do you accept the economic bomb millions have to suffer to save .6 %?

I believe it’s actually less. And while I’m sure if I was on the receiving end statistic wise I would think differently, I’m at this point wondering the same in regards to the damage done to save the .6 percent.

[friedchickendinner]

  Do you accept the economic bomb millions have to suffer to save .6 %?

Either you think something had to be done (and if you believe that you agree with every single expert in economy on the planet)

If you don't believe that, then you automatically put yourself and your opinion above every single expert in economy on the planet, and to do this you have to a moron.

So think about that for a second, chances are you realize you are a moron.

[joswift]

Pellius, curious to know, did you ever serve in the military? Desert storm? I assume you were too young for Nam

he only goes to war on bums in his neighbourhood

[Griffith]

Got my 'Deceleration of Citizen's Movement in Exceptional Cases Form' today which includes reasons like going to a pharmacy or a shop for essential supplies. Need to sign it and carry national ID.

If not a citizen, don't know what they will do.

[Sissysquats]

Either you think something had to be done (and if you believe that you agree with every single expert in economy on the planet)

If you don't believe that, then you automatically put yourself and your opinion above every single expert in economy on the planet, and to do this you have to a moron.

So think about that for a second, chances are you realize you are a moron.

 Chances are I can converse like an adult

[Griffith]

[friedchickendinner]

Common its not like you ever lived in a totalitarian state

Maybe you would enjoy it

Stop being so negative

[AbrahamG]

I'm trying to figure out if they are legitimate bad asses.

If they are, I suspect they have spent years upon years in the military, defending freedom all across the globe.

I'm looking forward to their stories.

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