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Re: Carnivore, Vegan, Keto, Vegetarian, Fruitarian... What?
« Reply #75 on: May 08, 2020, 05:12:56 AM »
Sergio Oliva favorites were Hostess Twinkies and Mountain Dew.

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Re: Carnivore, Vegan, Keto, Vegetarian, Fruitarian... What?
« Reply #76 on: May 08, 2020, 05:19:51 AM »
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Biscuit Oliva (ビスケット・オリバ, Bisuketto Oriba), is a fictional character from anime and manga series of Baki the Grappler.

In the English dub of the second season, his name was changed to Oliver.

His appearance and name are based on former Mr. Universe and three-time Mr. Olympia Sergio Oliva.
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Re: Carnivore, Vegan, Keto, Vegetarian, Fruitarian... What?
« Reply #77 on: May 08, 2020, 05:26:58 AM »
We have two conflicting opinions.

Fiber causes colon cancer.

vs.

Fiber prevents colon cancer.

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Re: Carnivore, Vegan, Keto, Vegetarian, Fruitarian... What?
« Reply #78 on: May 08, 2020, 06:10:19 AM »
Biscuit Oliva (ビスケット・オリバ, Bisuketto Oriba), is a fictional character from anime and manga series of Baki the Grappler.

In the English dub of the second season, his name was changed to Oliver.

His appearance and name are based on former Mr. Universe and three-time Mr. Olympia Sergio Oliva.

Correct, character's hilarious.   :D

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Re: Carnivore, Vegan, Keto, Vegetarian, Fruitarian... What?
« Reply #79 on: May 08, 2020, 06:16:54 AM »
We have two conflicting opinions.

Fiber causes colon cancer.

vs.

Fiber prevents colon cancer.

Not exactly.  Supplementing with Psyllium husk fiber daily may increase the risk of colon cancer according to studies.

Dietary fiber from fruits and vegetables is a different story.

This shouldn't surprise anyone.  There seems to be an opposite effect from nutrients obtained from food vs supplements in some cases.  Here's another example:

β-carotene

Studies have shown there is a convincing association between β-carotene supplements and an increased risk of lung cancer in current smokers. β-carotene supplements are unlikely to have a substantial effect on the risk of prostate and non-melanoma skin cancers.

However, foods containing carotenoids are associated with a probable reduced risk of lung, mouth, pharynx, and larynx cancer. Dietary β-carotene probably reduces the risk of oesophageal cancer and is unlikely to have a substantial effect on the risk of prostate and non-melanoma skin cancers.

Cancer Council recommends people obtain their nutritional requirements from whole foods, rather than individual nutrients in a supplement form, and avoid taking high doses (>18 mg) of β-carotene supplements, especially if they smoke.

https://wiki.cancer.org.au/policy/Position_statement_-_Beta-carotene_and_cancer_risk

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Re: Carnivore, Vegan, Keto, Vegetarian, Fruitarian... What?
« Reply #80 on: May 08, 2020, 06:27:45 AM »
But then there is this:

Vegetarians Have Fewer Cancers But Higher Risk Of Colorectal Cancer, Study

“Within the study, the incidence of all cancers combined was lower among vegetarians than among meat eaters, but the incidence of colorectal cancer was higher in vegetarians than in meat eaters”

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/142427#1

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Re: Carnivore, Vegan, Keto, Vegetarian, Fruitarian... What?
« Reply #81 on: May 08, 2020, 09:31:58 AM »
To me, these extreme diet plans just never made intuitive sense. We survived as omnivores and are constructed to eat a wide variety of foods. Why would you want to cut out completely one of the macronutrients or one of the food groups?

So, this thread, started two days ago and already at 4 pages, perfectly explains why these extreme diets become popular. We really don't know shit about how food affects the human body. Sure, we know we need it to live and that it fuels biological processes, but in terms of how it drives health, there isn't a lot of solid science.  Every 10 - 15 years, what is considered conventional wisdom changes. One day dietary fat is the bad and the cause of weight gain, next it is good and has nothing to do with weight gain. One day excess protein can damage your kidneys and make you fat and kill you, next day there is no such thing as excess protein and the body doesn't store it as fat.  One day being active is the key to maintaining goal weight, next day activity has absolutely nothing to do with maintaining weight it's strictly what you eat.

If we're lucky, we get 50 good years and 30 years after that will hopefully be okay if we did enough things right. Obviously, anyone that cares about being healthy and leading a healthy life is gonna take a look around at how what we supposedly "know" about diet constantly changes and be somewhat susceptible to exploring new things.  Just because something has always been done one way doesn't mean it is the best way.

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Re: Carnivore, Vegan, Keto, Vegetarian, Fruitarian... What?
« Reply #82 on: May 08, 2020, 09:35:36 AM »
So, this thread, started two days ago and already at 4 pages, perfectly explains why these extreme diets become popular. We really don't know shit about how food affects the human body. Sure, we know we need it to live and that it fuels biological processes, but in terms of how it drives health, there isn't a lot of solid science.  Every 10 - 15 years, what is considered conventional wisdom changes. One day dietary fat is the bad and the cause of weight gain, next it is good and has nothing to do with weight gain. One day excess protein can damage your kidneys and make you fat and kill you, next day there is no such thing as excess protein and the body doesn't store it as fat.  One day being active is the key to maintaining goal weight, next day activity has absolutely nothing to do with maintaining weight it's strictly what you eat.

If we're lucky, we get 50 good years and 30 years after that will hopefully be okay if we did enough things right. Obviously, anyone that cares about being healthy and leading a healthy life is gonna take a look around at how what we supposedly "know" about diet constantly changes and be somewhat susceptible to exploring new things.  Just because something has always been done one way doesn't mean it is the best way.

Eggxactly!

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Re: Carnivore, Vegan, Keto, Vegetarian, Fruitarian... What?
« Reply #83 on: May 08, 2020, 03:34:59 PM »

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Re: Carnivore, Vegan, Keto, Vegetarian, Fruitarian... What?
« Reply #84 on: May 08, 2020, 04:52:50 PM »
We have two conflicting opinions.

Fiber causes colon cancer.

vs.

Fiber prevents colon cancer.


So if you eat figs, you'll get cancer !. What a BS !.

Ripen figs = best natural laxative  ;)

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Re: Carnivore, Vegan, Keto, Vegetarian, Fruitarian... What?
« Reply #85 on: May 08, 2020, 06:09:37 PM »


Caught in another lie and left speechless. Not only have you run our of lame comebacks, you've run out of lame gifs and keep repeating the same one. You're becoming the poor man's version of Roast Beef Pecs.

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Re: Carnivore, Vegan, Keto, Vegetarian, Fruitarian... What?
« Reply #86 on: May 10, 2020, 03:49:41 PM »
Caught in another lie and left speechless. Not only have you run our of lame comebacks, you've run out of lame gifs and keep repeating the same one. You're becoming the poor man's version of Roast Beef Pecs.

Pellious, we have so many "nutritional experts"  here, but 99% of them would not survive without supermarket .

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Re: Carnivore, Vegan, Keto, Vegetarian, Fruitarian... What?
« Reply #87 on: May 10, 2020, 04:48:44 PM »
We have two conflicting opinions.

Fiber causes colon cancer.

vs.

Fiber prevents colon cancer.

Hadn't heard this. Not sure why it would cause it, but too much of anything is not good.

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Re: Carnivore, Vegan, Keto, Vegetarian, Fruitarian... What?
« Reply #88 on: May 10, 2020, 04:51:32 PM »
Eat red meat, srs

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Re: Carnivore, Vegan, Keto, Vegetarian, Fruitarian... What?
« Reply #89 on: May 11, 2020, 12:41:15 AM »
Hadn't heard this. Not sure why it would cause it, but too much of anything is not good.


Looks like diet of fish/rice/vegetables/fruits builds anti Chinavirus imunity !.

If U are porking on NYC diet Kang Flu will get you !.