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Enough is enough with the liberal Newsom - he is destroying small business and going to make California's deficit grow to 55 BILLION DOLLAR loss next year with his antics.  But hey, it os ok to release the felony inmates from the jails who steal, are child molesters and and hurt people, and arrest small business owners.  California is seriously messed up.


From Gavin Louis, owner of Metroflex Gym Oceanside

Today I got arrested for having my gym open in Oceanside CA and refusing to close it down. This is an affront to our constitutional rights and a complete throwing in the garbage of police oaths... This is a war on small businesses... the arrest was personally ordered by Mayor Peter Weiss and LT. DOYLE of the OPD. The last time we had a war on this we won.... 1776


https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/oceanside-gym-owner-cited-for-refusing-to-close-business-after-reopening/509-8fc50180-a7ec-40d6-9b50-5c1eb7ab2b05

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2020, 06:03:37 PM »
To complain

Oceanside Police    PDWebMail@oceansideca.org,  Chief's Office (760) 435-4450...

Peter Weiss - Mayor of Oceanside - pweiss@ci.oceanside.ca.us



Let the mayor know he needs to take a stand.

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2020, 06:06:03 PM »
Has it come to this - small business vs. liberals - this crap needs to stop in the USA.



This is the letter that Gavin Louis, owner of Metrolflex Oceanside, just sent our Chief of Police, Mayor and City Attorney

Re: OPPOSITION TO OPD INTENT TO ENFORCE PUBLIC HEALTH ORDER

May 9, 2020

Dear Gentlemen,

As I write this letter, I am confused, disappointed and extremely upset. There is complete chaos as everyone tries to figure out how to respond to the various vague and ambiguous modifications to already vague and ambiguous public health orders. In the meantime, my business and survival hang in the balance. This is inexcusable. I opened on Friday after the focus was changed from “essential” and “non essential” to “high risk” and “low risk”. Because my business is undeniably a “low risk” business, I opened on Friday subject to the operating guidelines set forth by the state and county.

Today, I received a letter from councilmember Rodriguez advising all businesses to open subject to social distancing guidelines and indicating that the Chief of Police favored a policy of educating rather than issuing citations. Hours later, I received an email from Mayor Weiss indicating that Councilmember Rodriguez was not authorized to speak on behalf of the city, but rather offered a “personal opinion” concerning business reopening. The Mayor’s letter did not address any of the abundant uncertainties of the current “orders”, but merely referred to the state and county orders. Making matters even more muddled, I received a call from OPD moments ago advising that it was Captain Marchand’s opinion that Gyms were not permitted and on that basis would be issued citations if open.

This situation is absolutely unacceptable and unconscionable. My only purpose for opening is to survive and to keep my family and staff off of welfare. For this effort, I am rewarded with absolute chaos from city leaders and threats from OPD of criminal sanctions? I have worked my tail off and sacrificed blood, sweat and tears for this gym. I have dedicated my life to improving the health and fitness of my members. To be treated this way turns my stomach.

Please know that I WILL be opening my gym tomorrow morning (May 10, 2020) at 8:00 A.M. I will be doing so in accordance with the guidelines issued by the state and county public health officials. My business is undeniably a “low risk” business. To date, not a single case of COVID 19 in the United States is known to have come from a gym or workout facility. Furthermore, the CDC has confirmed that the COVID 19 virus is NOT transmitted by means of sweat or perspiration. There is absolutely no scientific basis for deeming a gym a “high risk” business. Accordingly, I am entitled to open my business at this time, subject to strict enforcement of the applicable public health orders concerning re-opening of businesses.

The various orders that Captain Marchand has threatened to enforce by issuing citations are undeniably void for vagueness. The manifest confusion displayed by absolutely all parties involved is ample evidence that the orders are beyond vague and therefore unenforceable. As you know, a statute or order may be so vague or so threatening to constitutionally protected activity that it can be pronounced wholly unconstitutional. The Supreme Court held in Papachristou v. City of Jacksonville 405 U 156 (1972) that a statute criminalizing loitering was unconstitutional because of the following:

1. It failed to give proper notice
2. Did not require specific intent to violate the ordinance
3. The ordinance encouraged and permitted arbitrary enforcement
4. It criminalized activities that by modern standards are normally innocent

ALL of the aforementioned defects in the Papachristou case are present here. We have had several officers who
have come by in the past two days and have indicated that as long as we comply with social distancing, we are fine. Now, Captain Marchand has indicated that he is going to direct his officers to issue citations. That is a perfect example of arbitrary enforcement. These vague ordinances are curtailing business activities that are obviously innocent and permitted.

Aside from the obvious “void for vagueness” defects of the current orders, it is absolutely immoral for any law enforcement agency to criminalize the actions of a business owner who is merely trying to survive and who is, as I am , complying with ALL re-opening guidelines. I implore you to watch this short youtube video of Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco addressing the board of supervisors at



In refusing to issue citations to those who are working, the Sheriff rationalizes that it is absurd to release thousands of convicted criminals from the jails because of COVID 19 so that he can them criminalize the actions of law abiding business owners that are merely trying to survive and to support their families. How did we get to the point where Sheriff Bianco is a hero for standing up for law abiding members of the community who are only trying to survive?

I am not interested in making a political statement or in becoming a beacon for a cause. I am literally being suffocated by these onerous and vague regulations. I need help. I do not need more threats and chaos. I am not alone. There are hundreds of us in Oceanside that are similarly situated. It seems that we have a couple of choices at this point. You can issue threats and use OPD and its good members to finish me off while I am trying to survive. This option will certainly invite a mountain of litigation from business owners that suffer from such a policy. Or, we can all work together and cooperate to make sure that the public health is given the highest priority. I will do my part to make certain that reopening guidelines are strictly followed in my gym.

Gentlemen, I have given my life for this business. I am literally on my last breath. Please, stop threatening me and help me.


Sincerely,

LOUIS G. URIDEL

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2020, 07:01:27 PM »

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2020, 09:13:03 PM »
People that choose to open their businesses should hire armed personal security to keep trespassing "peace" officers away. ;)
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2020, 09:16:36 PM »
To complain

Oceanside Police    PDWebMail@oceansideca.org,  Chief's Office (760) 435-4450...

Peter Weiss - Mayor of Oceanside - pweiss@ci.oceanside.ca.us



Let the mayor know he needs to take a stand.

I tweeted them earlier...🤷‍♂️

Sucks because I have friends in the military that train there including one client

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2020, 09:26:45 PM »
The 2nd gym rebellion story from the 760. 

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2020, 09:50:42 PM »
I hope he sues and I hope he wins.

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2020, 11:23:14 PM »
Enough is enough with the liberal Newsom - he is destroying small business and going to make California's deficit grow to 55 BILLION DOLLAR loss next year with his antics.  But hey, it os ok to release the felony inmates from the jails who steal, are child molesters and and hurt people, and arrest small business owners.  California is seriously messed up.


From Gavin Louis, owner of Metroflex Gym Oceanside

Today I got arrested for having my gym open in Oceanside CA and refusing to close it down. This is an affront to our constitutional rights and a complete throwing in the garbage of police oaths... This is a war on small businesses... the arrest was personally ordered by Mayor Peter Weiss and LT. DOYLE of the OPD. The last time we had a war on this we won.... 1776


https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/oceanside-gym-owner-cited-for-refusing-to-close-business-after-reopening/509-8fc50180-a7ec-40d6-9b50-5c1eb7ab2b05

Gavin Lewis knew by opening the gym he was breaking the law and would be arrested. He staged a protest and the the Mayor decided to use it to set an example. Will Lewis' arrest discourage others from staging protests? Probably not.

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2020, 12:03:15 AM »
Gavin Lewis knew by opening the gym he was breaking the law and would be arrested. He staged a protest and the the Mayor decided to use it to set an example. Will Lewis' arrest discourage others from staging protests? Probably not.


Yeah, there were probably sodomy laws on the books too but that didn't stop "some people".

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2020, 03:02:55 AM »
I don't follow the US situation much so I'm genuinely asking - does anybody here actually think that opening everything up with 20k cases a day still raging, isn't going to end in tears?

I can totally understand why you'd be for it - your country sucks balls.  It might be one of the greatest to visit and I'd love to live there in times of prosperity but it fucks its citizens so hard when they can't stay on the hamster wheel, it might be the worst in the world, right now.



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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2020, 03:55:30 AM »

Yeah, there were probably sodomy laws on the books too but that didn't stop "some people".


What is your point? Anytime you break the law, if caught, you might be arrested.  It is the risk you take.

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2020, 04:36:57 AM »
Absolutely ridiculous.

This “pandemic” is a bust.

Protect the vulnerable, quarantine the sick ... and allow folks to earn a living and live their lives.

Sooner or later the mass population is gonna have to face what’s out there. Isolating the populations isn’t a viable long-term option.

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2020, 06:37:43 AM »
The libs want small businesses to fail.  The more people on the dole the better.

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2020, 08:09:05 AM »
The libs want small businesses to fail.  The more people on the dole the better.

This is only happening in Dem ran states. They’re keeping the economies closed or at least slowing the process because it’s an election year. By doing this they’ll turn it around and blame Trump

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2020, 08:38:28 AM »
This is only happening in Dem ran states. They’re keeping the economies closed or at least slowing the process because it’s an election year. By doing this they’ll turn it around and blame Trump

That's sad, that anyone would consciously mess with people to this degree just to get votes, but you're probably right.  What I think complicates the matter now is the fact that it would be hard to blame Trump for the economic damage caused by quarantine policies that were obviously disproportionately liberal in nature.

But if Trump ends lock down / social distancing measures and a very high number of people get sick, he can be blamed.

I suspect that the death counts are not being counted accurately, and that people who die WITH the coronavirus are being counted as being dying OF the coronavirus.

It seems like no matter what happens, there will be something done politically here.

Here in Canada, the only people being tested are those with symptoms.  So the actual number of people with the virus is likely much higher than the official numbers stated.

For example, I think I got the virus, starting February 20th, and ending March 20th.  But I can't prove that.  So I would not be counted in the statistics.

I would be curious to see how this plays out.

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2020, 08:46:03 AM »

Reply back from the mayor

From: Peter Weiss <PWeiss@oceansideca.org>
To: 'Ron Avidan' <ron@Getbig.com>
Subject: RE: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym


We had asked the County to allow all businesses that can maintain sanitation protocols to be allowed to open The County Order which was updated, still does not allow that.

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2020, 08:48:10 AM »
There is a 'new' San Diego order, effective May 10th now... here is a copy - still uses the old formula of 'non-essential' etc etc


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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2020, 08:49:08 AM »
The only good politician is a DEAD politician

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2020, 09:02:30 AM »
I don't follow the US situation much so I'm genuinely asking - does anybody here actually think that opening everything up with 20k cases a day still raging, isn't going to end in tears?

I can totally understand why you'd be for it - your country sucks balls.  It might be one of the greatest to visit and I'd love to live there in times of prosperity but it fucks its citizens so hard when they can't stay on the hamster wheel, it might be the worst in the world, right now.

It's precisely because they have broken their asses in an unforgiving environment to earn what little they have that they're not keen to lose it all to New Plague Rules, written and enforced by the unaffected, and kept in place despite a shortfall of 10 million predicted corpses in the streets. They're feeling lied to and fucked over.

If they had lived in a luckier country, atop a mountain of mineral wealth, where neither effort nor competence are needed to live the good life, they would probably be inclined to kneejerk compliance, unthinking optimism, and an abiding confidence in their somehow justified easy existence.

I find it telling that the yankee blue collars take a grist for the mill "get 'er done" attitude, and would be embarrassed to admit to laziness, while the Australians proudly declare that "she'll be 'right" and gain their layabout mates' approval for it.

Yes, the US system is entirely too meat grinder but most Aussies under the age of 70 need a good kick up the ass.

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2020, 10:47:34 AM »
eventually people are going to start rebelling , there is only a limited amount of time people can handle these extreme measures . . .

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2020, 11:19:13 AM »
I don't follow the US situation much so I'm genuinely asking - does anybody here actually think that opening everything up with 20k cases a day still raging, isn't going to end in tears?

I can totally understand why you'd be for it - your country sucks balls.  It might be one of the greatest to visit and I'd love to live there in times of prosperity but it fucks its citizens so hard when they can't stay on the hamster wheel, it might be the worst in the world, right now.

Whatever country you live in - go on Wikipedia and check how the people of your country are doing in the USA.

For example, we always hear about how great the "Scandinavian Model" is - yet as soon as they started importing Muslims, and the demographic profile of those countries started to look more like that of the USA, the country started getting similar results.

If you compare Danes in Denmark to Danes living in the USA, the results are EXACTLY THE SAME.  In fact, the socioeconomic outcomes for Danes are BETTER in the USA.

The USA sucks balls because it has a massive third world population in its midst.  If it was 90% White like it was pre-1965, it would be surpassing whatever country you live in.  Not just in obvious military terms, but in GDP per-capita terms, or any other measure/indicator of prosperity.

Again, the USA only "sucks" because it has so much "diversity", which is supposed to apparently help White countries get "better".

Because yeah, importing people from the worst countries of the world into the best [Whitest] countries in the world is somehow a "strength".  ::)

Again - go look at the USA and make an apples-to-apples comparison with only the Caucasian population, and then let me know how much the USA "sucks balls".

Obviously any country that imports third world people is going to eventually turn to shit.  Whatever country you live in is no exception, rocket.

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2020, 11:21:01 AM »
lol imagine living in commiefornia and then acting surprised when something like this happens.


y'all made your bed now lie in it.



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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2020, 11:24:06 AM »
I don't follow the US situation much so I'm genuinely asking - does anybody here actually think that opening everything up with 20k cases a day still raging, isn't going to end in tears?

I can totally understand why you'd be for it - your country sucks balls.  It might be one of the greatest to visit and I'd love to live there in times of prosperity but it fucks its citizens so hard when they can't stay on the hamster wheel, it might be the worst in the world, right now.

The US government is giving everyone $ 1200 a month.

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Re: Metroflex Gym Oceanside owner arrested - for opening his gym
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2020, 11:27:35 AM »
lol imagine living in commiefornia and then acting surprised when something like this happens.


y'all made your bed now lie in it.

For many of us it's not so much we made the bed but rather that the libtards like Gov. Screwsum shit in it. A lot.