John Meadows in hospital after heart attack

[BBSSchlemiel]

I know from personal experience that blood loss lowers hematocrit.

It lowers it immediately.

[joswift]

It lowers it immediately.

anyone taking test or anything else should get blood taken every 2/3 months

[friedchickendinner]

Creatine-related or?

[JuicedKangaroo]

Do you mean a DEVIL DOC? 

Don Youngblood did.  Chad Nicholls prepped Youngblood for the 2001 and 2002 Master's Mr. Olympia contest, as well as for the 2002 Mr. Olympia contest, when Youngblood was 48 years old, and fresh off his 2002 Master's Mr. Olympia win.

As far as John Meadows is concerned, short answer: I think John was/is mostly his own coach.

Long answer: I'm not aware of John Meadows working with anyone reckless - or...let me put that another way: I don't see John as being the sort of guy who would ever be in a situation where he doesn't have full veto power over everything he does for bodybuilding and contest prep.

In other words, John had a great deal of bodybuilding knowledge, and I don't see him as being the sort of guy to do a dangerous drug cocktail unless he himself wanted to do it.

I am a lot more confident in my belief that Don Youngblood would have eaten or injected anything Chad Nicholls put in front of him.  John has been studying bodybuilding since he was 13 years old [basically since he watched the 1985 Mr. Olympia as a teenage boy], and I don't see him doing anything reckless that he didn't put serious consideration into.

I'm not saying John didn't do anything reckless, gear-wise, I'm just saying he wouldn't inject a dangerous cocktail of cutting agents just because a guru told him to do it.  If a guru told him to do it, and he felt it was sound advice, I could see him doing it.  But I couldn't see him take on any risks that he didn't give serious thought to, regarding the costs and benefits.

Competing in bodybuilding is a risk, period.  Especially over 40.  So he knew what he was getting into.

Well said Matt, John is no meathead and certainly not the type who would take everything and anything - shaving decades off his life.

John is a very sensible coach/guru from what I've heard too (I have not worked with him personally, for I am not worthy of donning the thong and getting all oiled up!)

He prepped Terrence Ruffin at the Arnolds - no diuretics!

[Rambone]

It sounds like John’s hanging in there and doing okay so far.

[mazrim]

Sure. The question is if therapeutic phlebotomy is warranted in HRT patients. Some HRT docs say yes and some say no.
Like I said I spoke to one doc who admitted that the evidence of benefit is weak but that he did it anyway.

I don't know if John donated regularly, though I'm sure he had frequent labs done. I did see John say recently that kidney issues would be more and more common in bodybuilders in the future, especially considering the amount of tren used today.

My doc is the one with glasses and I would agree with the doc you have spoken with. Not much evidence.

[BBSSchlemiel]

Well said Matt, John is no meathead and certainly not the type who would take everything and anything - shaving decades off his life.

John is a very sensible coach/guru from what I've heard too (I have not worked with him personally, for I am not worthy of donning the thong and getting all oiled up!)

He prepped Terrence Ruffin at the Arnolds - no diuretics!

Yes, we all know what Mr. Meadows takes in his privacy, and he’s infallible, and incapable of lying of taking high risks, solely because of his demeanor in public.

[Royalty]

Yes, we all know what Mr. Meadows takes in his privacy, and he’s infallible, and incapable of lying of taking high risks, solely because of his demeanor in public.

Yep... blood clots from 15 years ago sounds like “damage control”


Watch him downsize big time...  scared shitless.. never will look the same

[Rambone]

Yep... bolt clots from 15 years ago sounds like “damage control”


Watch him downsize big time...  scared shitless.. never will look the same

John’s going to look like a walking candy apple, but it’ll be for what’s best for him. I’m not trying to sound like mr. hindsight, but I’m surprised he didn’t downsize before all of this because he always comes across as a level-headed family man. He has a large following and makes plenty of money on YouTube and training clients regardless of his current arm size. He also worked for JP Morgan for most of his career, so I assume he’s financially responsible. It’s time to downsize. There’s no reason to run gear to maintain 20” arms when you haven’t competed in 3 years.

[moty]

ive never understood these dudes like John absolutely RUINING themselves to compete when they have obvious genetic/physical flaws that will always prevent them from even sniffing top contenders.

for some people it borders mental illness

[JuicedKangaroo]

No doubt John has pushed the envelope before, but I think our resident medical experts are forgetting that both of his parents had heart issues - and quite young, in their 30s. So John, juicing in his late 40s... Could have been worse, but I'm sure this will shake him a bit.

[pellius]

ive never understood these dudes like John absolutely RUINING themselves to compete when they have obvious genetic/physical flaws that will always prevent them from even sniffing top contenders.

for some people it borders mental illness

Big muscles are hard to resist.

[Rambone]

John’s wife just said that he’s coming home today. All the prayers and well wishes from all of you Getbiggers really seemed to work. John really appreciates it

[Primemuscle]

John’s wife just said that he’s coming home today. All the prayers and well wishes from all of you Getbiggers really seemed to work. John really appreciates it

Good news.

[dseiler]

I can see what you mean.  I vividly recall observing John turn beet red in some of his videos.

I immediately feared for his health.

It's interesting that his blood lipid levels were all so good according to the blood test he posted [or possibly more than one - but I recall seeing one online several years ago].  Looking at some of his pictures, he immediately strikes me as another Don Youngblood.  John is very red in the face.  These are photos that I all took directly from an online search.  If someone else posted these and stated that they purposely photoshopped John's face to be more red, I would believe it.  But no, he actually is that red.

EDITED to add:

The fourth photo is a photo of Don Youngblood, taken at the 2004 NPC Nationals when Don was 50 years old - only months before he died.  Youngblood had the same red face, even while not doing anything strenuous:

Warrior too. That last promo he cut on Raw. Dude looked like his head was gonna pop.

[dseiler]

F JACKIE

[ziballz]

[Taffin]

Thanks for posting - just a few minutes in but I hope that from his comments about having no Father he's going to be off from this point forever...

To do anything else after such a strong warning shot would be insane

[Flexacon]

Thanks for posting - just a few minutes in but I hope that from his comments about having no Father he's going to be off from this point forever...

To do anything else after such a strong warning shot would be insane

You don't think him already losing his colon was a warning shot enough?

Most juicers are like compulsive gamblers. They can't walk away

[WalterWhite]

Thanks for posting - just a few minutes in but I hope that from his comments about having no Father he's going to be off from this point forever...

To do anything else after such a strong warning shot would be insane

Especially in light of the fact that the clots were on the left side.  Sounds like he is describing the Left Anterior Descending artery (LAD)  and or worse yet the Left Main. It may have been Left Circumflex and Main but either way he is lucky to still be breathing.

[SOMEPARTS]

Shocking that they never detected this purely genetic issue.

[Marty Champions]

You don't think him already losing his colon was a warning shot enough?

Most juicers are like compulsive gamblers. They can't walk away

he had colon cancer? Ouch

[Rambone]

he had colon cancer? Ouch

No. I wasn’t closely listening to his latest video, but his colon ruptured (no homo) and he almost bled out.

Found it.

https://mountaindogdiet.com/basic/basic-team/john-meadows-a-story-of-hope/

As the week went by, the pain still didn’t go away, and I found myself in the emergency room curled up in a ball on the floor, moaning in pain. I ended up getting some CT scans and x-rays done, but nothing seemed abnormal. I did visit a gastro doctor, and a colonoscopy revealed that I had acute colitis in the sigmoid portion of my colon. I thought this was strange, as I had none of the usual colitis symptoms – no nausea, bloody bowel movements, vomiting, etc. Well I did get some medication, but a few days later ended up back in the ER, as the painful spasms were now so painful I just couldn’t handle it anymore. Some more tests were done, and the diagnosis was that I was constipated. Hmm, pretty curious considering I had not eaten a full meal in days! Two days later, guess where I ended up? Yep, back in the ER, this time by ambulance. My pain was indescribable. This is where the long journey starts.

My third time in the ER was indeed the scariest moment of my life. Something inside of me ruptured, and blood started pouring out of my backside. As the blood continued to gush out, I felt my body start to tingle and shake. I knew that I was going into shock, and that I would bleed to death any second. My wife ran to get a nurse, and within a few minutes I was on a gurney headed into emergency surgery. I said my goodbye to my wife, and started giving her last messages to others I love, as they wheeled me away.

The next thing I know, I woke up in the ICU, questioning whether or not I was alive. With all the tubes, drains, etc attached to me… I remember being thrilled and overjoyed to be alive. The doctor came in to tell me that I was indeed minutes from dying, so he had to act quickly, and had removed my entire large intestine. I was now the proud owner of a new ileostomy. Those are the bags attached to your side, when you have to rest your rectum. Seeing my ileum outside my body was pretty freaky, but hey I was alive. The doctor said that we would be reversing this procedure in 3 months, and that then everything would start to get back to normal

[Marty Champions]

No. I wasn’t closely listening to his latest video, but his colon ruptured (no homo) and he almost bled out.

Found it.

https://mountaindogdiet.com/basic/basic-team/john-meadows-a-story-of-hope/

As the week went by, the pain still didn’t go away, and I found myself in the emergency room curled up in a ball on the floor, moaning in pain. I ended up getting some CT scans and x-rays done, but nothing seemed abnormal. I did visit a gastro doctor, and a colonoscopy revealed that I had acute colitis in the sigmoid portion of my colon. I thought this was strange, as I had none of the usual colitis symptoms – no nausea, bloody bowel movements, vomiting, etc. Well I did get some medication, but a few days later ended up back in the ER, as the painful spasms were now so painful I just couldn’t handle it anymore. Some more tests were done, and the diagnosis was that I was constipated. Hmm, pretty curious considering I had not eaten a full meal in days! Two days later, guess where I ended up? Yep, back in the ER, this time by ambulance. My pain was indescribable. This is where the long journey starts.

My third time in the ER was indeed the scariest moment of my life. Something inside of me ruptured, and blood started pouring out of my backside. As the blood continued to gush out, I felt my body start to tingle and shake. I knew that I was going into shock, and that I would bleed to death any second. My wife ran to get a nurse, and within a few minutes I was on a gurney headed into emergency surgery. I said my goodbye to my wife, and started giving her last messages to others I love, as they wheeled me away.

The next thing I know, I woke up in the ICU, questioning whether or not I was alive. With all the tubes, drains, etc attached to me… I remember being thrilled and overjoyed to be alive. The doctor came in to tell me that I was indeed minutes from dying, so he had to act quickly, and had removed my entire large intestine. I was now the proud owner of a new ileostomy. Those are the bags attached to your side, when you have to rest your rectum. Seeing my ileum outside my body was pretty freaky, but hey I was alive. The doctor said that we would be reversing this procedure in 3 months, and that then everything would start to get back to normal

jeezus this is why ill never do low fat or eat alot of meat you will get hemroids but they go away if u change ur diet. Meadows is the stubborn type doesnt listen to his body

[Hulkotron]

Pre-existing congenital condition unrelated to his lifestyle most likely