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Re: The New Low Carb Trend
« Reply #125 on: May 18, 2020, 11:48:27 AM »
So the cause of your kidney stones was consuming more than 100g protein per day, regardless of how many carbs you consumed?

Yes. The formation of uric acid was the issue. It's a very complicated issue apparently - some people can go high protein with no issues while others, like me, cannot. It's predominately driven by the acidity of your urine. I can eat carbs all day long without any problems with stones. As soon as I drop the carbs and increase the protein they form in days. I used to be <100 g carbs, 200+ g protein and 100 g fat while dieting. Now its <100 g protein, 200+ gm carbs and 100 g of fat. Same result as far as fat loss but incredible difference in health.

Here are two very good sources of info on protein and uric acid stones:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3150417/

https://kidneystones.uchicago.edu/chapter-seven-uric-acid-stones/

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Re: The New Low Carb Trend
« Reply #126 on: May 18, 2020, 11:54:00 AM »
Just run for 10 hours a day and you can eat anything

Used to do that at work....well maybe just 8 hours.

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Re: The New Low Carb Trend
« Reply #127 on: May 18, 2020, 11:57:13 AM »
Yes. The formation of uric acid was the issue. It's a very complicated issue apparently - some people can go high protein with no issues while others, like me, cannot. It's predominately driven by the acidity of your urine. I can eat carbs all day long without any problems with stones. As soon as I drop the carbs and increase the protein they form in days. I used to be <100 g carbs, 200+ g protein and 100 g fat while dieting. Now its <100 g protein, 200+ gm carbs and 100 g of fat. Same result as far as fat loss but incredible difference in health.

Here are two very good sources of info on protein and uric acid stones:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3150417/

https://kidneystones.uchicago.edu/chapter-seven-uric-acid-stones/

Did you know that, contrary to popular belief, the keto diet is not high protein?  The keto diet is high fat, low carb.  Too much protein can actually kick you out of ketosis.

The keto diet is also not a meat diet.  You can get into ketosis and stay there eating meat only in moderation.

Since you liked the keto diet so much in the past, I encourage you to give it another chance.  This time keep protein at 100g/day, carbs at 20g-50g/day, and the rest fat.

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Re: The New Low Carb Trend
« Reply #128 on: May 18, 2020, 11:57:57 AM »
Most basic format............caloie s invs. caloies out

Some guys act like it`s fucking rocket cience.

Agreed. Never had a problem losing weight. I just eat less of the same foods I enjoy.

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« Reply #129 on: May 18, 2020, 12:24:44 PM »
Did you know that, contrary to popular belief, the keto diet is not high protein?  The keto diet is high fat, low carb.

The keto diet is also not a meat diet.  You can get into ketosis and stay there eating meat only in moderation.

Since you liked the keto diet so much in the past, I encourage you to give it another chance.  This time keep protein at 100g/day, carbs at 20g-50g/day, and the rest fat.

Yes - the keto diet is higher fat but you get pretty tired of eating predominately fat only foods. So the next step is proteins plus fats.

I am permanently done with keto and also low carb diets. I have been leaning out at 2 pounds per week for the past 3 weeks just by calorie counting. You can eat snickers bars and lose weight calorie counting, lol. I bicycle race and low carb diets are toxic to cycling performance at high speed.

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Re: The New Low Carb Trend
« Reply #130 on: May 18, 2020, 01:18:33 PM »
Agreed. Never had a problem losing weight. I just eat less of the same foods I enjoy.
Yes, a calorie is a calorie.  Why do people make it so difficult?  They suffer needlessly.

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Re: The New Low Carb Trend
« Reply #131 on: May 18, 2020, 02:00:46 PM »
I can't get over the picture of a burger wrapped in lettuce

Thats the gayest thing Ive ever seen

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« Reply #132 on: May 18, 2020, 02:27:30 PM »
I can't get over the picture of a burger wrapped in lettuce

Thats the gayest thing Ive ever seen

Really?  So in your mind buns are heterosexual and meat is gay?  To each its own.   :D

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« Reply #133 on: May 18, 2020, 02:28:36 PM »
Yes - the keto diet is higher fat but you get pretty tired of eating predominately fat only foods. So the next step is proteins plus fats.

I am permanently done with keto and also low carb diets. I have been leaning out at 2 pounds per week for the past 3 weeks just by calorie counting. You can eat snickers bars and lose weight calorie counting, lol. I bicycle race and low carb diets are toxic to cycling performance at high speed.

Good for you!

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« Reply #134 on: May 18, 2020, 02:32:40 PM »
Really?  So in your mind buns are heterosexual and meat is gay?  To each its own.   :D

No straight man has ever ordered a burger and said "no buns, just lettuce!"

Thats equal to go to a bar and order soy milk.

(which probably is something youve done plenty of times)

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Re: The New Low Carb Trend
« Reply #135 on: May 18, 2020, 02:33:31 PM »
New York city 'diet' (+ life style) must be the shittiest 1 .........


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« Reply #136 on: May 18, 2020, 02:45:17 PM »
No straight man has ever ordered a burger and said "no buns, just lettuce!"

Thats equal to go to a bar and order soy milk.

(which probably is something youve done plenty of times)

LOL...please, do continue posting on a bodybuilding board telling men how not to be confused with gays.   :D

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Re: The New Low Carb Trend
« Reply #137 on: May 18, 2020, 03:10:34 PM »
To summarize, a steak is better alone than with a baked potato. A burger is better without the bun, fries or ketchup and meatballs are better alone than in a hero or with spaghetti and sauce.


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Re: The New Low Carb Trend
« Reply #138 on: May 18, 2020, 05:18:59 PM »
Loco's favorite Iron Maiden songs:

Fear of the Carb
Wasted Meals
Afraid to eat French Fries
The Loneliness of the Low Carb Eater
Faggit in a Fagland
Can I play with myself
The Carbsman

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Re: The New Low Carb Trend
« Reply #139 on: May 18, 2020, 05:39:08 PM »
To summarize, a steak is better alone than with a baked potato. A burger is better without the bun, fries or ketchup and meatballs are better alone than in a hero or with spaghetti and sauce.

Have steak with a small baked potato; a hamburger with a bun or fries and not both. ketchup is considered a vegetable, so it's fine unless you dump gobs of it on your food. Enjoy your meatball sandwich and skip the carbs at your next meal or have it with spaghetti, but limit the amount of spaghetti to a single serving, which is much less than you might think it is.

Again, eat what you like but have sensible proportions. Consider what you eat in a day and give yourself more flexibility at each meal. If you get crazy one day and eat everything in sight, cut way back the next. Nobody gets too fat in a day.

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Re: The New Low Carb Trend
« Reply #140 on: May 18, 2020, 05:48:12 PM »
Have steak with a small baked potato; a hamburger with a bun or fries and not both. ketchup is considered a vegetable, so it's fine unless you dump gobs of it on your food. Enjoy your meatball sandwich and skip the carbs at your next meal or have it with spaghetti, but limit the amount of spaghetti to a single serving, which is much less than you might think it is.

Again, eat what you like but have sensible proportions. Consider what you eat in a day and give yourself more flexibility at each meal. If you get crazy one day and eat everything in sight, cut way back the next. Nobody gets too fat in a day.

Oh stop. I have a burger every now and then. Like eating or not eating the fucking bun is going to make any difference in the long run.

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Re: The New Low Carb Trend
« Reply #141 on: May 18, 2020, 05:55:23 PM »
Loco's favorite Iron Maiden songs:

Fear of the Carb
Wasted Meals
Afraid to eat French Fries
The Loneliness of the Low Carb Eater
Faggit in a Fagland
Can I play with myself
The Carbsman

What about this classic?


Boz Scaggs - Keto Shuffle - Later With Jools Holland


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« Reply #142 on: May 18, 2020, 06:17:02 PM »
Oh stop. I have a burger every now and then. Like eating or not eating the fucking bun is going to make any difference in the long run.

My response was riddled with sarcasm. Too bad you missed it. I was responding to a post where it was suggested eating the bun, fries and ketchup was ill advised and that you should have meatballs without the sandwich or pasta.

When I go for a hamburger, I order the works, bun, large fries, cheese, sauce and whatever else makes that slab of over cooked beef taste better. Later, I make up for it by having a salad for dinner and I skip the coffee ice cream for dessert.

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Re: The New Low Carb Trend
« Reply #143 on: May 18, 2020, 06:24:16 PM »
I got a great laugh out of the clowns who put down joswifts knowledge............... a guy with one of the best builds on the board for any age and he`s 55 !!



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Re: The New Low Carb Trend
« Reply #144 on: May 18, 2020, 06:37:00 PM »
My response was riddled with sarcasm. Too bad you missed it. I was responding to a post where it was suggested eating the bun, fries and ketchup was ill advised and that you should have meatballs without the sandwich or pasta.

When I go for a hamburger, I order the works, bun, large fries, cheese, sauce and whatever else makes that slab of over cooked beef taste better. Later, I make up for it by having a salad for dinner and I skip the coffee ice cream for dessert.

Of course I missed it. No one reads your posts in their entirety.

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« Reply #145 on: May 18, 2020, 06:44:38 PM »
I got a great laugh out of the clowns who put down joswifts knowledge............... a guy with one of the best builds on the board for any age and he`s 55 !!

UKJeff has prolly one of the top 10 member physiques of all time on here, discounting the random pros who used to post here.

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« Reply #146 on: May 18, 2020, 06:53:40 PM »
so if i am reading this right joswift  likes the keto diet ?    mr swift correct me if i am wrong

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« Reply #147 on: May 18, 2020, 07:06:30 PM »
so if i am reading this right joswift  likes the keto diet ?    mr swift correct me if i am wrong

Keto or just low carb is certainly of value to a bodybuilder as it allows one to strip off body fat quickly.

The problem long term is that it’s too restrictive and people get tired of the limited options.

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« Reply #148 on: May 18, 2020, 07:44:44 PM »
Ive tried every diet pill etc.  T3 /arimidex/clen.  Ran miles a day 7 days.  And nothing works to cut bodyweight and fat period. No carbs. 50grams day or less.  Period. 

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« Reply #149 on: May 18, 2020, 08:47:06 PM »
Keto or just low carb is certainly of value to a bodybuilder as it allows one to strip off body fat quickly.

The problem long term is that it’s too restrictive and people get tired of the limited options.

i enjoy it more myself.  as i get older i do not have the appetite i had when younger, much easier to get calories in on keto .