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Re: RUSTY JEFFERS SPEAKS OUT (No Jokes)
« Reply #50 on: April 19, 2006, 04:01:56 AM »
I just like not being a part of being bashed by Chic. My ass is just now getting better.  By the way Rusty got ripped off.  I find it intersting that someone like Stewart who has a very checkered past is even allowed to compete.  And he looked like crap compared to Rusty.  I think the scorecards should be hooked up to the internet so whatever the judges put is what everyone sees.  Then it would make it harder for any hanky panky to go on.  And that is a very very simple procedure.  Also from what I read on here alone says the crowd was horribkle at this show.  Anyhow I am actually happy for Chic.  I'd rather see him win than Shawn.

I think it's great that someone that Johnny Stewart is allowed to compete.

It's a physique competition. Not a personality contest.

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Re: RUSTY JEFFERS SPEAKS OUT (No Jokes)
« Reply #51 on: April 19, 2006, 04:26:50 AM »
rusty the night before the show...

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« Reply #52 on: April 19, 2006, 04:49:39 AM »
aww..  BAyGBM is going to like this one.... the shot of Rusty .

People may be overestimating the importance of this contest.  And in many ways,  Bob Chick will be long forgotten as a foot note in history as the winner of the contest in which RUSTY JEFFERS got royally screwed over.... 

Rusty should make all attempts to capitalize on his non-win in much the same way that Tom Platz made huge inroads in his non win of the 81 Olympia.  Platz actually finished 3rd.  Columbu's win is barely mentioned.  People think Platz finished second- not third and anyway, it doesn't matter: the publicity generated by the obvious shaft given to Platz more than compensated for his placement.  He still would rather have won the show.  The Olympia is far more important in bb that whatever the hell this specific show is called.   

Just as in that earlier contest, neither of the winners ( Chick or Columbu ) had anything to do with the judges although both were rather friendly with all of them.  Its a small world in the upper echelons of bodybuilding.  There may be a case for some sort of collusion with Chick's win vis-a-vis athletes' rep etc  but it hardly matters. 

It isn't that Chick won: it's that the judging was a joke if not completley horrible for the rest of the placements. 

Most people ( except 240 and perhaps a few others) can accept Bob's win.  He did look pretty good! 

It is the fact that a man who was a clear third and perhaps 2nd ( Jeffers ) was placed 8th!!??  And he wasn't even compared to the top guy? 

It is clear arrogance on the part of the judges to just assume that no one will question their choices.  Just for the sake of posterity, some side by side, pose for pose comparisons should have been done so that no one can say that the option wasn't available. 

If that were to have been done, and Bob Chick still won, then okay, people could justifiably be upset or cool with it.  There are always upsets and choices made in bodybuilding that are not always agreed upon.  And the audience doesn't always agree with them. 

But to have not even attempted to make the comparisons..... holy smokes.... what were they smoking???

Rusty- start charging big bucks for your guest appearances, AND APPEAR IN GREAT SHAPE when you do them.  Your future is assured if you can capitalize on this fiasco.

Bob- a good win.  congratulations.


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Re: RUSTY JEFFERS SPEAKS OUT (No Jokes)
« Reply #53 on: April 19, 2006, 04:56:56 AM »


Again, one of the judges said that Rusty was soft, which is why he lost a few placings.



That "judge" is full of shite.

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Re: RUSTY JEFFERS SPEAKS OUT (No Jokes)
« Reply #54 on: April 19, 2006, 05:05:47 AM »
You know - once again - I don't think 99% of the people who saw the show live and on the webcast would argue that Bob didn't win this show. He did, fair and square. No conspiracy - no favors from the IFBB - no favors from bodybuilding.com
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« Reply #55 on: April 19, 2006, 05:20:50 AM »
In that above pic Chic as literally no delts.  His abs aren't even close to Rusty's.  No tri's either.  I am very surprised (not really) their were no comparisons with Chic and Rusty.  I do know why, because after annoucing Chic as the winner after actually seeing them side by side the place would have gone crazy and the judges would have had to be lead out with guards.  Please someone post all the mandatory poses of each Chic and Rusty side by side.  As I admit this contest is not judged on pictures but pictures do tell a story and if anything Chic would have the advantage because he is photogenic.  So if Rusty loos better than Chic as he does in the above pic then well call for a recount.  And don't let Manion use his special calculator.

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« Reply #56 on: April 19, 2006, 05:22:09 AM »
Thank god my mom is dead.  It took her a whole year to die and an awful allot of money too.  Thanks to her my inheritance was allot lower than it should have been.  Thanks mom.
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« Reply #57 on: April 19, 2006, 05:30:52 AM »
Honestly, based on the prejudging and finals pics Bob probably did win that show, which had a very weak lineup.

Pavol probably got second, and Rusty should have been compared to place in 3,4,5.

Obviously Claude Groulx looked like a huge bag of shit (muscle, distention and veins) and represented what is totally wrong with some bodybuilding today. (no thought on symmetry whatsoever).

I wouldn't be so pissed at Bob placing first, but rather Claude Groulx finishing in the top 10!!!

He got the gift placing, and Jeffers did deserve to be higher....but what can you do?

Go watch a PDI SHOW? ::)

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« Reply #58 on: April 19, 2006, 05:42:33 AM »
that's mean

It is. I mean, why would a women want to put her son through all that?

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« Reply #59 on: April 19, 2006, 05:59:50 AM »
i feel bad because he got used but i do not need to see pictures of his wife...tmi already.

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« Reply #60 on: April 19, 2006, 06:12:35 AM »
Honestly, based on the prejudging and finals pics Bob probably did win that show, which had a very weak lineup.

Pavol probably got second, and Rusty should have been compared to place in 3,4,5.

Obviously Claude Groulx looked like a huge bag of shit (muscle, distention and veins) and represented what is totally wrong with some bodybuilding today. (no thought on symmetry whatsoever).

I wouldn't be so pissed at Bob placing first, but rather Claude Groulx finishing in the top 10!!!

He got the gift placing, and Jeffers did deserve to be higher....but what can you do?

Go watch a PDI SHOW? ::)

somehow my comment to this quote was lost when i submitted it.

oh well.

Ether, 
this is exactly the point that most people are making.  Not that Bob won, as there has to be a winner: but that Rusty was essentially ignored.  And that some other placings are suspect.

Claude Groulx looked horrid- for one thing. 
No comparisons with Jeffers and Bob.  - that is beyond strange.
The bullshit alleged  comment from the one judge who said Jeffers was 'soft" smells that a cover up. 

the judges should just admit that they screwed up and that would be that. 

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« Reply #61 on: April 19, 2006, 06:19:05 AM »
Guys...no matter how much we all bitch and moan...what's done is done

Bob had alot of momentum going into the show and he won. Case closed.

Onto other things...is it true that competitors are not allowed to have facial hair? I read this somewhere on another post?

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Re: RUSTY JEFFERS SPEAKS OUT (No Jokes)
« Reply #62 on: April 19, 2006, 06:21:19 AM »
Damn, the show is over. Bob won (congtatulations), Rusty got eighth ( he should have placed higher), better luck next time. Nothing anyone says will ever change the results, can everyone just put this to rest and get on with life. Like Bob said it is a bodybuilding show. and in the eyes of the public someone always gets screwed (oh well). Time to move on.

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« Reply #63 on: April 19, 2006, 06:22:33 AM »
Guys...no matter how much we all bitch and moan...what's done is done

Bob had alot of momentum going into the show and he won. Case closed.

Onto other things...is it true that competitors are not allowed to have facial hair? I read this somewhere on another post?
yes he was picked the 'winner' by corrupt judges just like judges at local dragshows

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« Reply #64 on: April 19, 2006, 06:55:16 AM »
No, I won't. If Rusty thinks he got a raw deal...he can complain himself.


You obviously haven't been paying attention to the comments.....Rusty isn't the only one who thinks he got a raw deal!

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Re: RUSTY JEFFERS SPEAKS OUT (No Jokes)
« Reply #65 on: April 19, 2006, 07:07:19 AM »
Bob you have seen the pictures...do you think you look better than Rusty?  Please explain your thinking to us.


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« Reply #66 on: April 19, 2006, 07:16:09 AM »
onlyme..

Is that you with a bear on your avatar?

What's the story behind that?

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« Reply #67 on: April 19, 2006, 07:20:37 AM »
Rusty sort of looks like G Gordon Liddy with that mustache  :) It does suck that he got placed so low.

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« Reply #68 on: April 19, 2006, 08:27:55 AM »
Bob had alot of momentum going into the show and he won.
Momentum from what? Winning the Arnold? The Ironman? Placing top 10 at the Olympia?

Ohhhh, I see. Bob won the Momentum Round which I think takes place between the Symmetry Round and the Muscularity Round.

From the IFBB Judging Guidelines (Section VII (a) (iii)):

"The Momentum Round is judged based on what the bodybuilders have been doing lately. The judges should use the following criteria in determining Momentum: 1) Recent appearances on television denying steroid use or bodybuilding contributed to a murder; (2) Recent appearances on Bodybuilding websites showing the glamorous and healthy lifestyle of Professional Bodybuilding; (3) Recent expressions of undying devotion and support for the IFBB and NPC; and (4) Recent photos showing overtly heterosexual expressions of lust."

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« Reply #69 on: April 19, 2006, 08:42:44 AM »
Regardless of the outcome of the contest, Bob was going to be skewered by certain people on getbig either way.  He's damned if he did and damned if he didn't.  If he hadn't won after predicting victory, he'd never hear the end of it.

It's a bit of a stretch to call Chick's victory "tainted" though.  That's just more baiting and it's not a legitimate argument.  Bob won fair and square.  Although like many others, I think it's obvious that Jeffers should've been in the top 5 at the very least.  Rusty looked a helluva lot better than most if not all of the guys who placed higher than him, and as others have pointed out, no one was truly in their best condition for the Masters Worlds.

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« Reply #70 on: April 19, 2006, 08:45:47 AM »
yes he was picked the 'winner' by corrupt judges just like judges at local dragshows

Who were the judges for this show?  Their names should be posted for all to see (and remember), if for no other reason than we know who has no credibility next time.

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« Reply #71 on: April 19, 2006, 08:55:55 AM »
 Rusty looked great and should have been top two, from what I saw. There must have been something at the show that we didn't see.

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Re: RUSTY JEFFERS SPEAKS OUT (No Jokes)
« Reply #72 on: April 19, 2006, 08:59:39 AM »
I can explain one thing....the ONE picture you people keep posting says nothiing to me other than, I'm not even in the pose yet. Anyone who has seen me hit a lat spread knows I bring my elbows WAY further forward when in the pose...I'm either going into the pose, or coming out of it...

This is why we actually have to SHOW UP and compete....LIVE. Shit, If I knew we would go by pictures...I could've saved myself a whole bunch of money and just sent in MY best shots, they could've picked a winner from those......

Watch the video..says it all.

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« Reply #73 on: April 19, 2006, 09:04:36 AM »
I can explain one thing....the ONE picture you people keep posting says nothiing to me other than, I'm not even in the pose yet. Anyone who has seen me hit a lat spread knows I bring my elbows WAY further forward when in the pose...I'm either going into the pose, or coming out of it...

This is why we actually have to SHOW UP and compete....LIVE. Shit, If I knew we would go by pictures...I could've saved myself a whole bunch of money and just sent in MY best shots, they could've picked a winner from those......

Watch the video..says it all.

 Yeah, I know, I like the picture where your chest isn't even flexed yet and they are saying that it's proof that you are soft ::) Too many silly kids on this site that know nothing about bodybuilding.

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Re: RUSTY JEFFERS SPEAKS OUT (No Jokes)
« Reply #74 on: April 19, 2006, 09:06:19 AM »
I can explain one thing....the ONE picture you people keep posting says nothiing to me other than, I'm not even in the pose yet. Anyone who has seen me hit a lat spread knows I bring my elbows WAY further forward when in the pose...I'm either going into the pose, or coming out of it...

This is why we actually have to SHOW UP and compete....LIVE. Shit, If I knew we would go by pictures...I could've saved myself a whole bunch of money and just sent in MY best shots, they could've picked a winner from those......

Watch the video..says it all.
how do you explain how he absolutely destroys you on the side chest then?
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