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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #75 on: June 04, 2020, 12:28:09 AM »
Here is Ken Rivard. Best upper body but he forgot to train his legs. He didn't compete again after this contest.

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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #76 on: June 04, 2020, 12:33:15 AM »
I won the title in May 1970. I emigrated to Australia in January 1971. So I didn't get to enjoy being Mr Canada much while at home.

I returned to Canada in 1980 and 1987 as well as 2000, and 2004. I doubt any of the current bodybuilders knew who I was!

Had I gone to LA I might have gone further in bodybuilding. Wife was pregnant so I had to find a steady job quick smart. No work

in Vancouver so off I went to Sydney, Australia.

Here is a Photoshop of what I could have looked like had I gone to California and tried Deca Durabolin.

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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #77 on: June 04, 2020, 12:55:55 AM »
Vince, if looting struck Australia, and you could only save A) the Biceps Supinator or B) the Kneeling Triceps Machine and the Pinch Grip Machine, which would you choose?

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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #78 on: June 04, 2020, 01:28:25 AM »
Vince, if looting struck Australia, and you could only save A) the Biceps Supinator or B) the Kneeling Triceps Machine and the Pinch Grip Machine, which would you choose?

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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #79 on: June 04, 2020, 01:56:53 AM »
Back pose 1970.

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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #80 on: June 04, 2020, 02:09:03 AM »
Want to thank Wes for sending me a message of support. Sometimes one person makes a big difference around here.


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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #81 on: June 04, 2020, 03:36:07 AM »
Want to thank Wes for sending me a message of support. Sometimes one person makes a big difference around here.
I think you’ll find there’s a few of us that do support you mate as stated you achieved national status as a champion and there’s no doubt you had a great physique in the 1970s and the fact your still training now is testimony too the longevity in the pursuit of what your goals were/are so keep punching until you can’t punch anymore I say.

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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #82 on: June 04, 2020, 03:58:50 AM »
 Everyone here just trolls you Vince.You clearly looked great and the best of the lineup.Its just you mention it about 5x more than Shawn Ray, Levrone, Priest etc mentioned their best titles while here  ;D We know and respect. Most here would agree you had an ideal physique.P.s intelligent beings are flying craft around way beyond our current technology.

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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #83 on: June 04, 2020, 04:22:21 AM »
Want to thank Wes for sending me a message of support. Sometimes one person makes a big difference around here.
Everybody here knows you had a great physique.  Getbig is a giant online locker room where everybody gives each other shit.

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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #84 on: June 04, 2020, 04:46:23 AM »
A photographer took this photo after the contest. Makes me look good. Other shots not so flattering.

I scanned the photo then edited out all the blemishes. Wonder why I didn't shave under my arms?


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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #85 on: June 04, 2020, 04:57:40 AM »
I appreciate some of the recent comments. You know, way back even before Wes I was reading the muscle magazines from cover to cover.

I guess I embraced the ideals of truth telling, integrity and clean living. Never smoked or took drugs. I have a beer or a glass of wine

a few times a year. I didn't have to admit I took Dianabol but what the heck, I don't tell lies about bodybuilding or reality.

So I picked the judges! Ask Ray Beck in Vancouver about it. I was working for him in one of his gyms. He was busy and so Roz and I helped

him organize and promote the contest. I remember going on TV during a wrestling show in Vancouver and doing my posing routine!

In Vancouver in those days contests were controversial. So I liked the NABBA judging system where you have heaps of judges.

So we ended up with 13 judges. Chuck Sipes was the head judge and the rest were local known bodybuilders many of whom had

won titles. Ken and I got 12 of the 1st place votes and Philippe Alfani got the last one. So three of us were placed first by some of the judges.

I had no idea I had won so it was a big surprise. Even after the contest Ray was too busy to write to the magazines so that was left up to me.

I gave Ray credit in Muscle and Fitness and An Observer in Ironman.

I was the first guy outside of Quebec or Montreal who won the title. Ray took me down to the Vancouver Sun newspaper the next day but

they weren't interested in doing a story. Ray had to take out an ad in the paper to announce that I won the contest.



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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #86 on: June 04, 2020, 05:09:16 AM »
Chuck Sipes was the guest poser. He also gave a strongman demonstration where he bent a steel bar and steel spikes. He had Ray read out a message which

ended in "My God, my strength!" After the show a few of us went to the hardware store to buy some 6 inch spikes. Chuck put a cloth around the spike and bent

it in one motion. Very impressive. We could bend a 6 inch spike, too, but it took much longer. I ended up bending a 7 inch spike.

Here is Chuck bending a steel bar. We didn't try this one!



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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #87 on: June 04, 2020, 05:18:22 AM »
Chuck Sipes was the guest poser. He also gave a strongman demonstration where he bent a steel bar and steel spikes. He had Ray read out a message which

ended in "My God, my strength!" After the show a few of us went to the hardware store to buy some 6 inch spikes. Chuck put a cloth around the spike and bent

it in one motion. Very impressive. We could bend a 6 inch spike, too, but it took much longer. I ended up bending a 7 inch spike.

Here is Chuck bending a steel bar. We didn't try this one!


no surprises here  ;D

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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #88 on: June 04, 2020, 05:19:25 AM »
I won the title in May 1970. I emigrated to Australia in January 1971. So I didn't get to enjoy being Mr Canada much while at home.

I returned to Canada in 1980 and 1987 as well as 2000, and 2004. I doubt any of the current bodybuilders knew who I was!

Had I gone to LA I might have gone further in bodybuilding. Wife was pregnant so I had to find a steady job quick smart. No work

in Vancouver so off I went to Sydney, Australia.

Here is a Photoshop of what I could have looked like had I gone to California and tried Deca Durabolin.


Deca was what Dr. Walzak prescribed. I think it was he that encourage you to try it. I saw him during the early 80 and he prescribed 200mg every two weeks along with 3 tabs of Ciba Dianabol (15mg) per day. He didn't believe in cycling except for orals due to the stress on the liver. Two months on, two months off. When I first went to him he started with just the Deca injections. When I asked him how long should my cycle last he just said as long as you want to keep growing. I asked him about adding Testosterone and he said he didn't recommend it. He said that the whole point of developing anabolic steroids was to improve upon the Testosterone molecule. To reduce the androgenic effects, the secondary sexual characteristics, of Testosterone while keeping, or enhancing, the anabolic properties and therefore reducing the side effects. Even on the instruction packet that came with every Deca vial, a disclaimer was made that a complete disassociation of the androgenic properties had not been achieved.

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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #89 on: June 04, 2020, 05:31:15 AM »
Deca was what Dr. Walzak prescribed. I think it was he that encourage you to try it. I saw him during the early 80 and he prescribed 200mg every two weeks along with 3 tabs of Ciba Dianabol (15mg) per day. He didn't believe in cycling except for orals due to the stress on the liver. Two months on, two months off. When I first went to him he started with just the Deca injections. When I asked him how long should my cycle last he just said as long as you want to keep growing. I asked him about adding Testosterone and he said he didn't recommend it. He said that the whole point of developing anabolic steroids was to improve upon the Testosterone molecule. To reduce the androgenic effects, the secondary sexual characteristics, of Testosterone while keeping, or enhancing, the anabolic properties and therefore reducing the side effects. Even on the instruction packet that came with every Deca vial, a disclaimer was made that a complete disassociation of the androgenic properties had not been achieved.

Hi Philip. Yes, I met the good doctor Walczak in Vancouver in the summer of 1970. He was at English Bay Beach and we had a conversation. He said I looked good and could win the Mr Universe title with another 6 months of training in LA. Deca Durabolin. I was more interested in clearing my acne. So I never went to LA to have a go at higher titles. I knew he was gay. Eventually most bodybuilders can pick these guys. Well, I invited him to come to my place to have dinner. When he found out I had a wife he disappeared and I never saw him again.
I should have recorded the conversation. The way he told it many of the top champs were gay! I guess he should know. He mentioned the very elite living in California.

There is no way I would take injections with a big needle. I hate needles. So Deca was out of the question. I tried Dianabol a couple more times in Australia. Didn't do much for me but I got a lot stronger.
I suspected the chemist in Kings Cross was selling a placebo!  :o

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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #90 on: June 04, 2020, 05:33:37 AM »

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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #91 on: June 04, 2020, 05:38:47 AM »
Article in Muscle Builder.


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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #92 on: June 04, 2020, 06:02:55 AM »
At the end of the article I said my ambition was to beat Frank Zane because we had similar physiques. Imagine my surprise in 1977 when Robert Nailon brought Frank to our apartment at Manly. They were waiting for me. The first thing Frank said to me was, "You won't have to go to Disneyland, will you?" I asked why not and he laughed, "Because you've been in Fantasyland all your life!" Nailon laughed too. I thought Frank was a total jerk. Not that smart, either. Several years ago I did a beach scene and put a photo of Frank on the beach. It took almost a day to do it. Drop shadows, etc. Well, I posted the photo on Ironage and it was well received. So I decided to send a full size copy to Frank. Yep, still a jerk. He returned the email saying he doesn't open email from people he doesn't know.

Here is that photo at the original size. You can make a print for yourself or whatever.



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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #93 on: June 04, 2020, 06:10:33 AM »
He's probably still pissed about the 80 Olympia.

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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #94 on: June 04, 2020, 06:44:56 AM »
At the end of the article I said my ambition was to beat Frank Zane because we had similar physiques. Imagine my surprise in 1977 when Robert Nailon brought Frank to our apartment at Manly. They were waiting for me. The first thing Frank said to me was, "You won't have to go to Disneyland, will you?" I asked why not and he laughed, "Because you've been in Fantasyland all your life!" Nailon laughed too. I thought Frank was a total jerk. Not that smart, either. Several years ago I did a beach scene and put a photo of Frank on the beach. It took almost a day to do it. Drop shadows, etc. Well, I posted the photo on Ironage and it was well received. So I decided to send a full size copy to Frank. Yep, still a jerk. He returned the email saying he doesn't open email from people he doesn't know.

Here is that photo at the original size. You can make a print for yourself or whatever.

Being 100% honest here, until i saw this thread & your photos i never heard of you. sorry but you were no where near Frank Zane in development ! you truely were in Fantasyland  :D

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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #95 on: June 04, 2020, 06:54:49 AM »
Vince for what it`s worth the first steroid I ever took was CIBA D-Bol 3 Five mg. tablets and at that time I looked great,felt great and my strength increases were amazing.

I had a double bodyweight bench press.........not incredible but credible just the same.

I never felt guilty for taking them and neither should you because I`ll guarantee you that most guys in the 1970 Canada were using someting (I can tell from the pics ).

Personally I think roids can be and are beneficial to athletes and others it`s just the abuse of them like the morons who compete these days that will ruin your health.

I competed mostly in the NPC where if I had the money I would have beaten far more people.................. ...at times I competed using Tesosterone alone a good work ethic and a Spartanlike diet and still placed swell while others were on boatloads.

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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #96 on: June 04, 2020, 07:10:06 AM »
Being 100% honest here, until i saw this thread & your photos i never heard of you. sorry but you were no where near Frank Zane in development ! you truely were in Fantasyland  :D

Though, to be fair, how much more drugs was Frank Zane using?

Not saying he would beat him, but the pros back then were also using a lot of drugs.

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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #97 on: June 04, 2020, 07:29:37 AM »
Though, to be fair, how much more drugs was Frank Zane using?

Not saying he would beat him, but the pros back then were also using a lot of drugs.
of course they were but let´s be honest here. If Drugs were the holy grail we would all be Mr O. Zane looked light years away from this Vince guy.
Discussion closed !

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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #98 on: June 04, 2020, 08:37:28 AM »
Being 100% honest here, until i saw this thread & your photos i never heard of you. sorry but you were no where near Frank Zane in development ! you truely were in Fantasyland  :D

To be honest I have never heard of you before. Who did you beat?

I said my goal was to beat Frank Zane. Obviously, not with the physique of 1970 but an enhanced one. Had I trained at Golds Gym, Venice, in those days I would have been properly

motivated. Lifting weights is a crazy thing to do....but showing someone is what can make it all worthwhile. Zane beat a lot of good bodybuilders in the late seventies. He was lucky

that Arnold retired and Sergio wasn't allowed to enter those contests.

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Re: Mr Canada 50 years ago! May 31, 1970.
« Reply #99 on: June 04, 2020, 09:04:02 AM »
To be honest I have never heard of you before. Who did you beat?

I said my goal was to beat Frank Zane. Obviously, not with the physique of 1970 but an enhanced one. Had I trained at Golds Gym, Venice, in those days I would have been properly

motivated. Lifting weights is a crazy thing to do....but showing someone is what can make it all worthwhile. Zane beat a lot of good bodybuilders in the late seventies. He was lucky

that Arnold retired and Sergio wasn't allowed to enter those contests.

Sorry but Zane was correct in his analysis of you.