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How many people do you know that have died from cancer? How many went for the conventional treatments? Surgery, radiation and big pharma medication? How many made it out alive at the other side?

From my own experience very few. Radiation actually helps spread it!

How Many People Die of Cancer Each Year?
In 2020, an estimated 606,520 people will die of cancer in the United States. Lung and bronchus cancer is responsible for the most deaths with 135,720 people expected to die from this disease. That is nearly three times the 53,200 deaths due to colorectal cancer, which is the second most common cause of cancer death. Pancreatic cancer is the third deadliest cancer, causing 47,050 deaths.

https://seer.cancer.gov/statfacts/html/common.html#:~:text=How%20Many%20People%20Die%20of,to%20die%20from%20this%20disease.

Watch this while you're on the treadmill! Very informative.


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I dont know who to trust.

I thought Falcon made an interesting case for cancer remedies but now I didnt realize cancer was so easy to beat.

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I dont know who to trust.

I thought Falcon made an interesting case for cancer remedies but now I didnt realize cancer was so easy to beat.
Well what have you got to lose? Apple seeds also contain amygdalin or B17. The synthetic and concentrated form is called Laetrile. This has been banned and made illegal. But if you start researching this and the video I posted you'll see data was falsified.

Whenever I eat an apple I consume everything including the seeds. Been doing it since I was a a child.

600,000 people die from cancer per year in the USA alone! Seems to me like all these experts in the cancer industry don't know what the fuck they are doing! Why would anyone trust them with their stupid treatments?! Perhaps it is a population control agenda?!

https://beatcancerwithb17.weebly.com/what-is-vitamin-b17.html

There is only one substance that can unlock the B17 molecule and release the cyanide. That substance is an enzyme called beta-glucosidase, which we shall call the "unlocking enzyme."When B17 comes in contact with this enzyme in the presence of water, not only is the cyanide released, but also the benzaldenhyde, which is highly toxic by itself. ....
 
Fortunately, the unlocking enzyme is not found to any dangerous degree anywhere in the body except at the cancer cell, where it always is present in great quantity, sometimes at levels in excess of one-hundred times that of the surrounding normal cells. The result is that vitamin B17 is unlocked at the cancer cell, releases its poisons to the cancer cell, and only to the cancer cell.
 
There is another important enzyme called rhodanese, which we shall identify as the "protecting enzyme." The reason is that it has the ability to neutralize cyanide by converting it instantly into by-products that actually are beneficial and essential to health. This enzyme is found in great quantities in every part of the body except the cancer cell which, consequently, is not protected.
 
Let us examine what, at first, may appear to be exceptions to these rules. We have said that the unlocking enzyme is not found to any dangerous degree anywhere in the body except at the cancer cell. That is true, but note the phrase "to any dangerous degree." The unlocking enzyme actually is found in various concentrations everywhere in the human body. It is particularly prevalent in the healthy spleen, liver, and endocrine organs. In all of these instances, however, there also is present an even greater quantity of the protecting enzyme (rhodanese). The healthy tissue is protected, therefore, because the excess of this protecting enzyme completely neutralizes the effect of the unlocking enzyme.
 
The malignant cell, by comparison, not only has a greater concentration of the unlocking enzyme than found in most normal cells but it is totally lacking in the protecting enzyme. Thus, it is signularly vulnerable to the release of cyanide and benzaldehyde.
 
The non-cancerous organs, therefore, are endowed by nature with the unique capacity of protecting themselves and even nourishing themselves from the digestion of the B17 molecule, whereas cancerous tissue converts the same vitamin substance into powerful toxins against which it has no defense.
 
... Other experiments have indicated that the trace amounts of cyanide and benzaldehyde released in the mouth and intestine, far from being case for panic, actually are a part of the delicate balance of nature and serve entirely beneficial purposes. In the mouth and stomach, these chemicals attack the bacteria that cause tooth decay and bad breath. In the intestines they interact with the bacterial microflora to suppress or eliminate the flatulence long associated with westernized foods.
 
... Commenting on the question of the possible toxicity of Laetrile, Dr. Burk has summed it up with this emphatic statement:
 
With forty-five years of study and research on the cancer problem, the last thirty-three years in the U.S. National Cancer Institute, and with files of virtually all published literature on the use of amygdalin ("Laetrile") with reference to cancer, and with innumerable files of unpublished documents and letters, I HAVE FOUND NO STATEMENTS OF DEMONSTRATED PHARMACOLOGICAL HARMFULNESS OF AMYGDALIN TO HUMAN BEINGS AT ANY DOSAGES RECOMMENDED OR EMPLOYED BY MEDICAL DOCTORS IN THE UNITED STATES AND ABROAD.
 
Dr. D.M. Greenberg, Professor Emeritus of Bio-Chemistry at the University of California at Berkeley, and consultant to the Cancer Advisory Council of the California Department of Public Health added this note of concurrence:
 
THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT PURE AMYGDALIN (LAETRILE) IS A NON-TOXIC COMPOUND. This is not questioned by anyone who has studied the reports submitted to the Cancer Advisory Council of the State of California.
 
Each year in the United States, over ninety people die from aspirin poisoning. NO ONE EVER HAS DIED FROM B17.
 
In another series of tests, white rats were fed seventy times the normal human dose of Laetrile, and the only side-effects produced were greater appetite, weight gain, and superior health; just what one would expect from taking a vitamin.

“Dr. Ian MacDonald and Dr. Henry Garland [also] wrote the famous 1953 report of the California Medical Association that since has become the basis of almost all scientific opposition to Laetrile/B17. It was learned later, however, that the findings on this report had been FALSIFIED. Both of these doctors defended cigarette smoking as a harmless pastime unrelated to lung cancer. Dr. MacDonald had publicly stated: ‘A pack a day keeps lung cancer away’" (World Without Cancer pg. 129). And here was God's justice: Dr. MacDonald died in his bed from one of his cigarettes, and Dr. Garland died from lung cancer (obviously he didn't truly study B17 or he would have used it).

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The Profit Of Not Curing Cancer

History of Errors

In the December 1959 issue of American Medical Association Journal, an editorial was published that boldly stated there was insufficient evidence “to warrant the assumption” that cigarette smoking was the principal factor in the increase of lung cancer.  Who were the medical experts who authored such blatant falsehoods?  Dr. Ian MacDonald, a prominent cancer surgeon, and Dr. Henry Garland, an internationally recognized specialist in radiology.  These two individuals made national headlines with their claims.  In fact, Dr. Garland specifically stated that cigarette smoking was actually beneficial as a tranquilizer.  MacDonald even went on to note that smoking was a “harmless pastime”— even up to 24 cigarettes per day without consequence.  He even went so far as to suggest “a pack a day keeps the cancer away.”

Fast forward to the mid 1960s and 1970s.  Doctors Garland and MacDonald were used by government and health agencies to again submit an “expert” opinion regarding the use of laetrile, aka Vitamin B-17, aka nitrilocides on cancer patients.  In spite of countless studies by renowned doctors, clinics, universities and specialists worldwide that showed the contrary, Garland and MacDonald claimed that no direct benefits were viable.  Neither Garland nor MacDonald ever tested or used laetrile themselves.  They merely compiled a mountain of other fraudulent or derelict research data and presented it as factual.  What’s interesting is how these two doctors, and countless other trusted professionals in the medical and research industry, have been used to sacrifice medical integrity and cover up information for the sole purpose of the monetary well-being and profit of the medical industry.  Unfortunately, that criminal practice continues today . . . particularly with cancer.

Who’s Hiding What?

Evidence is mounting that the FDA, the American Medical Association and the American Cancer Society are deliberately hindering American citizens from having access to laetrile, a natural substance which has a proven record to prevent, cure and minimize the effects of cancer.  Given that there are hundreds of thousands of cancer fatalities each year, it’s no wonder that expert author G. Edward Griffin calls this “an act of genocide” by the FDA and its other cohorts.

Which begs the question: If there was an easily accessible nutrient that could aid the cure and prevention of cancer, why would such entities fight against its release to the general public?  Who would want to hide a cure for cancer and what motivation would they have for perpetrating such an act of horror?  My answer to such questions usually starts with “Follow the money.”  It always comes down to money.

A study conducted by USA Today shows that over 50 percent of all of the cowardly experts which have been hired to advise the government on the merits of laetrile and any other proposed medicines have heavily-involved financial relationships with the pharmaceutical industry.  In other words, their paychecks are affected by their research.  If their research were to uncover a non-patentable substance to cure a widespread disease, they would have to pound the pavement for a new job.

In 1971, the FDA reported to an Ad Hoc Committee of Consultants for Review and Evaluation of Laetrile that laetrile could no longer be promoted, sold or even tested in the United States.  Why would the FDA treat a natural occurring substance of everyday fruits and vegetables with more alarm and restrictions than it would illegal drugs, poisons and unconventional medicines?  Simple: there is no financial or political benefit to endorsing it.

A patent for laetrile is unobtainable since it is a naturally occurring substance. Real money can only be made if you’ve got a medical patent.  So, instead of losing millions of dollars in lobbying monies, hundreds of thousands of jobs in research and medicine, our nation would rather force its citizens to flee to foreign shores to access the freedom of choice in treating their cancer without poisons, cutting or burning, and more importantly, by accessing a method that has a higher rate of success than any medical practice put forth now in the U.S. for the treatment of cancer.

In some studies, cancer patients have had an 82 percent improvement rate.  There aren’t any other current “anti-cancer” methods that can boast such results, especially without doing harm elsewhere to the body of a cancer victim.  1972, Dr. Dean Burk, director of cytochemistry section of the federal governments National Cancer Institute, reported, “When we add Laetrile to a cancer culture under the microscope providing the enzyme glucosidase also is present, we can see the cancer cells dying off like flies.”  The combination of glucosidase and laetrile would occur in human beings 100 percent of the time, as glucosidase is found prevalently in the small intestines.  During his participation in the Seventh International Congress of Chemotherapy held in Prague in 1971, Dr. Burk also stated “Laetrile appears to work against many forms of cancer including lung cancer. And it is absolutely non-toxic.”

Laetrile is widely used in Mexico, Australia, Russia, Brazil, Belgium, Philippines, Costa Rica, England, Germany, Greece, Japan, Spain and Switzerland in treating cancer, just to name a few.  Are all of the medical and research teams of all of these countries wrong on their views of laetrile?  Each year, Mexico and Germany receive thousands of U.S. visitors for laetrile treatment.  Some patients are not only able to lead longer lives but are able to fully recover and lead healthy lives.

Read more here:

https://kellenebishop.wordpress.com/2009/03/18/cancer/

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How many people do you know that have died from cancer? How many went for the conventional treatments? Surgery, radiation and big pharma medication? How many made it out alive at the other side?

From my own experience very few. Radiation actually helps spread it!



I 'made it out alive at the other side' via da Vinci robotic surgery with no radiation, no chemo and no 'miracle drugs' or special diets.  Lucky me, it was caught very early, Gleason score 2, stage I.

A friend when for the natural/organic route and experimental treatments in Germany (he lived in Hawaii). He did not make it out alive.

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I 'made it out alive at the other side' via da Vinci robotic surgery with no radiation, no chemo and no 'miracle drugs' or special diets.  Lucky me, it was caught very early, Gleason score 2, stage I.

A friend when for the natural/organic route and experimental treatments in Germany (he lived in Hawaii). He did not make it out alive.
Well congrats. What type of cancer was it?

I know of about 10 people including relatives that did not make it out after undergoing surgery and chemo. Some had gone into remission but it came back. And others died within 1-2 years of diagnoses.

But regardless the fact that 600,000 people die per year means that the success rate is abysmal. That means in 2 years 1.2 million die and in 10 years 6 million!

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I 'made it out alive at the other side' via da Vinci robotic surgery with no radiation, no chemo and no 'miracle drugs' or special diets.  Lucky me, it was caught very early, Gleason score 2, stage I.

A friend when for the natural/organic route and experimental treatments in Germany (he lived in Hawaii). He did not make it out alive.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/is-da-vinci-robotic-surgery-revolution-or-ripoff-021215#6

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https://www.healthline.com/health-news/is-da-vinci-robotic-surgery-revolution-or-ripoff-021215#6

Good article although the author cannot seem to make up his mind whether robotic surgery is a good thing or a bad one.

"The robotic arms can get into hard-to-reach places, promising patients less bleeding, faster recovery, less chance of damage to important nerves, and smaller scars than traditional surgeries."

"The evidence isn’t strong enough to determine whether or not a robot is better than traditional minimally invasive surgery, but the evidence does indicate that it’s better compared to open surgery — more evidence from higher quality studies may change this conclusion,” said Chris Schabowsky, Ph.D., a program manager at ECRI.

According to the Healthline article, Cameron Scott (1) seems to favor laparoscopic surgery....mainly because it is less expensive. Note that he's a writer and not a doctor.

"Laparoscopic radical prostatectomy is a minimally invasive surgery procedure used to remove a patient's cancerous prostate. Laparoscopic surgery differs from traditional open surgery by making five small incisions (I had three), as opposed to one large one (10") to perform the surgery."

1. Cameron Scott
Writer / Editor at UCSF Institute for Global Health Sciences
San Francisco, California

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I 'made it out alive at the other side' via da Vinci robotic surgery with no radiation, no chemo and no 'miracle drugs' or special diets.  Lucky me, it was caught very early, Gleason score 2, stage I.

A friend when for the natural/organic route and experimental treatments in Germany (he lived in Hawaii). He did not make it out alive.
What type of cancer was it?

Here's a success story apparently. The medical establishment will come after doctors that are open to B17 treatment in the same way the main stream media is coming after Trump!


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These archaic, deadly cancer treatment protocols have been going on for YEARS... you just realized this now?

STAY AWAY FROM DOCTORS.  Given half a chance, they will kill you.  They've killed many of my family and friends.

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What type of cancer was it?


Prostate cancer.

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All I can say about this is my dad got diagnosed with bladder cancer a few years ago and I did a lot of research and got him a bunch of b17 and it’s seemed to help quite a bit.

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When people are diagnosed with cancer it is terrifying and they do whatever the doctor orders.  Early cancer detection has a very good chance of cure.  When a person is diagnosed with advanced cancer no method will work.  The question is whether or not it is worth it to go through the pains of chemo and radiation to live another couple of months.

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When people are diagnosed with cancer it is terrifying and they do whatever the doctor orders.  Early cancer detection has a very good chance of cure.  When a person is diagnosed with advanced cancer no method will work.  The question is whether or not it is worth it to go through the pains of chemo and radiation to live another couple of months.

A good doctor offers choices. When I was diagnosed with prostate cancer, the urologist offer me several options. The first was "watchful waiting", or radiation, chemical castration and surgery. Chemo is generally suggested when the cancer is inoperable.

Watchful waiting would have been too stressful. Radiation destroys the cancer cells and the prostrate and there is no guarantee it will get it all. Chemical castration doesn't cure prostate cancer, but it can keep it from progressing...can is not an absolute.

Surgery (a prostatectomy) can in many cases remove all the cancer cells, unless the cancer has metastasized. I opted for the prostatectomy. I've been prostate cancer free according to my bi-annual PSA which is so low it is considered undetectable.

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When people are diagnosed with cancer it is terrifying and they do whatever the doctor orders.  Early cancer detection has a very good chance of cure.  When a person is diagnosed with advanced cancer no method will work.  The question is whether or not it is worth it to go through the pains of chemo and radiation to live another couple of months.

Doctors killed my dad this way.  At that stage all you are a cash cow to them, because they know you're terminal.

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Doctors killed my dad this way.  At that stage all you are a cash cow to them, because they know you're terminal.
I agree.  If I had terminal cancer I would rather just live out my time with no treatment other than pain meds and booze until I couldn't stand the suffering anymore and then commit suicide.  I just don't know if I could pull the trigger on myself.  I'm sure there are a few Getbiggers who would like to do it for me. :D

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I agree.  If I had terminal cancer I would rather just live out my time with no treatment other than pain meds and booze until I couldn't stand the suffering anymore and then commit suicide.  I just don't know if I could pull the trigger on myself.  I'm sure there are a few Getbiggers who would like to do it for me. :D

I had a friend and coworker who found out he had advanced lung cancer. Initially, he fought like heck to stay alive, even went to Georgia where one of the best cancer centers was at the time in the U.S. When returned he was in remission for awhile and then the cancer came back. One day he decided enough was enough and shot himself in the head.

It is important that I clarify that this event took place around 20 years ago. There have been many advancements in treatment of cancer since that time.

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I had a friend and coworker who found out he had advanced lung cancer. Initially, he fought like heck to stay alive, even went to Georgia where one of the best cancer centers was at the time in the U.S. When returned he was in remission for awhile and then the cancer came back. One day he decided enough was enough and shot himself in the head.
I think this happens a lot more than they admit.  When someone who is terminal commits suicide I don't think they announce it as a suicide to the public.  I read somewhere that when cancer doctors are diagnosed with terminal cancer they have a very high rate of suicide.

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I think this happens a lot more than they admit.  When someone who is terminal commits suicide I don't think they announce it as a suicide to the public.  I read somewhere that when cancer doctors are diagnosed with terminal cancer they have a very high rate of suicide.

It pretty similar with dementia and dementia care nurses.

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Can you cite that?
No, but I think someone on Getbig did a few years ago.

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Oh you "think"? There could be people with cancer reading this and you are saying that doctors with cancer commit suicide. And you "think" you read it on a bodybuilding forum. Good job.
Just saying what I remember reading on here.  If someone reads a bodybuilding forum to decide their treatment options they have bigger problems than cancer.  Piss off homo. 

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Fuck you and your pissy little attitude. You seem like a little wimp.
Says the homo crying about my post.

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When people are diagnosed with cancer it is terrifying and they do whatever the doctor orders.  Early cancer detection has a very good chance of cure.  When a person is diagnosed with advanced cancer no method will work.  The question is whether or not it is worth it to go through the pains of chemo and radiation to live another couple of months.

The 'dangerous doctors'. Make sure you can spell their last name and pronounce their first name.

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Antoher conspiracy thread. :-\

Is this what Getbig has come to? What a pity.