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« Reply #50 on: June 08, 2020, 07:20:29 PM »
More brands, ones that I normally would trust. Animal and even Nature Valley bars wtf!

https://www.resourcesinchina.com/23315/productlist/1-13.html

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« Reply #51 on: June 08, 2020, 07:39:44 PM »
The first is to establish that nearly ALL supplements in bodybuilding are made by Chinese wholesalers, an no one actually has anything to do with their product other than filling out an order form and checking what boxes they pay a fee for to call "custom blend" and such. But any company that suggests that they have developed, produced or in ANY way had something to do with the manufacturing will be called out. In fact shipping routes can be traced to show it is all shipped bulk, so its all the same shit anyway. I believe we could blow lid of Olympia EXPO if we said where each booth was manufactured and that NO booth did ANY production of their products, as they say how "they" added more "filtered creatine" or some formula they say "they have been working on".

Then we go to the good stuff. Some history. I am still finishing this book on Weiders and the whole way the supplement industry was structured from the beginning. We have gay for pay, prostitution, I have a particular affinity to oldtimers, hearing some old stories and how the corruption was back then vs now. Any suggestions are VERY welcome. Steroids are fine if there is a unique angle, but calling out steroid guys is boring and we all now they are on.

Maybe a little on MM2000 with Bill Phillips. I have some info on it.  Tracing supplement companies started with drug money is always interesting but I like the stories that aren't told so much.

I'll find the interesting angles like I've done so far. For now, back to research. I'll be back.  I honestly will try to set up a couple interviews. I'll be back when I have anything interesting. Need to go research. Thanks to everybody

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China Drives Another Nail in the Coffins of GNC and Vitamin ShoppeReal Money 2016

Stand-alone vitamin and supplement shops like GNC and Vitamin Shoppe shares will continue to fall in light of a Justice Department investigation The Justice Department indictment alleges that GNC and USPlabs "engaged in a conspiracy to import ingredients from China using false certificates of analysis and false labeling and then lied about the source and nature of those ingredients after it put them in its products." Also, "USPlabs told some of its retailers and wholesalers that it used natural plant extracts in products called Jack3d and OxyElite Pro, when in fact it was using a synthetic stimulant manufactured in a Chinese chemical factory."

The Justice Department's case raises questions as to whether GNC and Vitamin Shoppe have more mislabeled products -- possibly made in China -- sitting on their shelves undiscovered.

"There is product coming in from China into the United States that at this time we do not believe is properly labeled, made in China, and it's being sold in the U.S.," Papa said. "That's something that we do think we will get resolved, but I don't want to put a specific time on it because things like that take quite a long time. But that pressure on products coming in from China has been noticed in our pricing for our VMS supplements, Papa of Perrigo(PRGO) supplements explained.

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« Reply #52 on: June 08, 2020, 07:47:51 PM »
Damn you're really going in! Yes the China connection indisputable. The Chinese site even advertises that they also manufacture all labels and packaging. They are shipping out pallets of supplements straight from China that just need unpacking and they are pretty much ready to be sold on as is. Truly despicable.

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« Reply #53 on: June 08, 2020, 11:51:59 PM »
So Palumbo could be done. We have seen that he ABSOLUTELY is having a Chinese company not only make his supplements, but he does not even own the company. He BY LAW is required to state that it is made in China and anyone with a Species container please look if it says "Made in China" anywhere as I want to be fair. But with the sheer amount of supplement companies that are doing China Wholesaling and breaking the law by not listing what country it is manufactured in, this is BIG. The fine can be a year in jail plus fines and you could look at half the supplement industry shut down. They hopefully have some legal team that has some exception but

Here is the LAW

In the United States, the marking statute, Section 304, Tariff Act of 1930, as amended (19 U.S.C. 1304) requires that, unless excepted, every article of foreign origin (or its container) imported into the U.S. shall be marked with its country of origin.


alteration of a marking of the country of origin required by section 304, Tariff Act of 1930, as amended (19 U.S.C. 1304), and this part in order to conceal this information may result in criminal penalties and imprisonment for 1 year, as provided in 19 U.S.C. 1304.

THIS IS WHAT PALUMBO IS DOING ALONG WITH A LOT OF OTHER SUPPLEMENT COMPANIES IMPORTING READY MADE SHIT FROM CHINA WHO MAKE THE LABELS AND ALL. I have to be careful on this and research more before putting someone on blast.  But Dave looks busted unless there is a made in China label on Species. Someone just find a Made in China please on Species(XINYAO BIO) There are things I like about Dave and he's a good guy but the fake HGH, now this shit, you have to follow the rules at some point.

Don't spread this outside this thread yet please, still investigating but Palumbo as a former felon could really pay for this shit so let's be fair to him. He has a side. But this looks like it's the WHOLE industry sneaking this one by before Notomorrow came.

I'll find out.  You HAVE to list where your product is made. I'll stand corrected and move on to other investigation if someone just shows a made in China on Lipolyze.

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« Reply #54 on: June 09, 2020, 06:15:24 AM »
Why should it surprise anyone that a former drug dealer felon would engage in unethical business practices?

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« Reply #55 on: June 09, 2020, 07:43:55 AM »
Why should it surprise anyone that a former drug dealer felon would engage in unethical business practices?
What is surprising(actually not), is it looks like 90% of the industry has been doing it. Go look at ANY supplement you have, and see if it has where it is made. If it doesn't list the Country, something is up. If your supplement says "Made for and distributed by it means they didn't make it and probably used a cheap Chinese company and not just unethically, but ILLEGALLY lied to the public about the manufacturing, suggesting it was somehow produced by the supplement company. The most they ever do is get samples, test flavors,etc before a big order, this is called their '"research and development".

 Business is business and I don't want to hurt the innocent, but when a guy like Palumbo describes his stock green tea extract from China like this, something has to be done. "Mitochondrial optimizer?" And he just fills out an order form to China then conceals the country on the label and pretends he made it? Note he says his title is "founder and President" Not CEO because the supplements are owned and made somewhere else. Again, please no one go anywhere with this as I am doing an investigation still. Please leave on this thread for now, until I have whole piece on bodybuilding.


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« Reply #56 on: June 09, 2020, 09:16:26 AM »
Walls kinda closing in on you there?

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« Reply #57 on: June 09, 2020, 09:22:26 AM »
Walls kinda closing in on you there?
Not sure if you mean Palumbo or me, but yes I have to be VERY careful. If anything happens to me, you'll know why. This could destroy the OLYMPIA EXPO if people found out that nearly EVERY supplement company buys ready made crap, with packaging, ingredients and labels from China and has nothing to do with their manufacturing.

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« Reply #58 on: June 09, 2020, 10:05:21 AM »
What is surprising(actually not), is it looks like 90% of the industry has been doing it. Go look at ANY supplement you have, and see if it has where it is made. If it doesn't list the Country, something is up. If your supplement says "Made for and distributed by it means they didn't make it and probably used a cheap Chinese company and not just unethically, but ILLEGALLY lied to the public about the manufacturing, suggesting it was somehow produced by the supplement company. The most they ever do is get samples, test flavors,etc before a big order, this is called their '"research and development".

 Business is business and I don't want to hurt the innocent, but when a guy like Palumbo describes his stock green tea extract from China like this, something has to be done. "Mitochondrial optimizer?" And he just fills out an order form to China then conceals the country on the label and pretends he made it? Note he says his title is "founder and President" Not CEO because the supplements are owned and made somewhere else. Again, please no one go anywhere with this as I am doing an investigation still. Please leave on this thread for now, until I have whole piece on bodybuilding.


Just checked all of my supplements and they all say "made for" and "distributed by" on the labels.

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« Reply #59 on: June 09, 2020, 07:54:23 PM »
finally an interesting thread on GB after all the BS on the front page lately. kudos OP.
Thank you sir. Was very passionate about this, not bullshitting for views.

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« Reply #60 on: June 09, 2020, 08:41:20 PM »
I know you are trying to keep this thread serious, but I hope you won't mind this moment of levity. It does also show that you can't take any of the claims from this Chinese manufacturer seriously.

This is one of the products they are manufacturing alongside all these well known supplement brands..

100% Original Big Dick Herbal Enlargement XXL Cream

https://www.resourcesinchina.com/23315/proudct/one-hundred-percent-Original-Big-Dick-Herbal-Enlargement-XXL-Cream-2295897.html

They are making outrageous claims for this product then at the bottom of the page posting a bunch of their certificates/accreditations



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« Reply #61 on: June 09, 2020, 11:40:56 PM »
I know you are trying to keep this thread serious, but I hope you won't mind this moment of levity. It does also show that you can't take any of the claims from this Chinese manufacturer seriously.

This is one of the products they are manufacturing alongside all these well known supplement brands..

100% Original Big Dick Herbal Enlargement XXL Cream

https://www.resourcesinchina.com/23315/proudct/one-hundred-percent-Original-Big-Dick-Herbal-Enlargement-XXL-Cream-2295897.html

They are making outrageous claims for this product then at the bottom of the page posting a bunch of their certificates/accreditations


It might he shocking what a joke this chinese alphabet soup of suppliers is. Xinyaobio lists "room 609-B" as their address, not much of a factory. Here's their email to me when I contacted them in my investigation as a prospective buyer. If you get bored, see if you can figure out the Whatsapp link and who "Andy" is. Look at their goofy email to me...see ya when I got more...


Re:Inquiry about Species Nutrition Lipolyze Advanced Fat Burn and Weight Loss Formula
Message Content   

Hello, dear.
Thank you for your letter
Would you like to try our weight loss products?
Where would you like to send it?
Our moQ is 1000-5000 bottles
If you want less than 1000 bottles, we can also send to you, but the unit price will be higher
We can send samples to you for testing, but would you like to pay the sample fee and freight?
We can accept TT, Moneygram, western alliance
I'd like to talk to you further. Can you tell me Whats App number?

The following is my contact information:
Company name: Shenzhen Xinyao Biotechnology Co., Ltd.
Contact: Andy
Telephone: +8618925109871
Whats App and Skype: 18925109871
Email address: andy18925109871@qq.com
Have a good day
Andy
Waiting for your good news.


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« Reply #62 on: June 10, 2020, 12:56:41 AM »
I know you are trying to keep this thread serious, but I hope you won't mind this moment of levity. It does also show that you can't take any of the claims from this Chinese manufacturer seriously.

This is one of the products they are manufacturing alongside all these well known supplement brands..

100% Original Big Dick Herbal Enlargement XXL Cream

https://www.resourcesinchina.com/23315/proudct/one-hundred-percent-Original-Big-Dick-Herbal-Enlargement-XXL-Cream-2295897.html

Big man - let your woman more crazy!
With him, no woman can not conquer the world
effectively increase penis length and girth
continued for 30 days effective
100% increase does not rebound after
more freely ejaculation control
all-natural herbs, no side effects
make sex more durable
increased sexual conidence
enhanced hardness of the penis to make erections longer lasting, more rigid
Hard, sturdy, long-lasting, so that men"s confidence, giving women a great meet!
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« Reply #63 on: June 10, 2020, 01:22:24 AM »
Big man - let your woman more crazy!
With him, no woman can not conquer the world
effectively increase penis length and girth
continued for 30 days effective
100% increase does not rebound after
more freely ejaculation control
all-natural herbs, no side effects
make sex more durable
increased sexual conidence
enhanced hardness of the penis to make erections longer lasting, more rigid
Hard, sturdy, long-lasting, so that men"s confidence, giving women a great meet!


It's still not as outrageous as some of the claims bodybuilding supplements make.

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« Reply #64 on: June 10, 2020, 01:26:30 AM »
It might he shocking what a joke this chinese alphabet soup of suppliers is. Xinyaobio lists "room 609-B" as their address, not much of a factory. Here's their email to me when I contacted them in my investigation as a prospective buyer. If you get bored, see if you can figure out the Whatsapp link and who "Andy" is. Look at their goofy email to me...see ya when I got more...


Re:Inquiry about Species Nutrition Lipolyze Advanced Fat Burn and Weight Loss Formula
Message Content   

Hello, dear.
Thank you for your letter
Would you like to try our weight loss products?
Where would you like to send it?
Our moQ is 1000-5000 bottles
If you want less than 1000 bottles, we can also send to you, but the unit price will be higher
We can send samples to you for testing, but would you like to pay the sample fee and freight?
We can accept TT, Moneygram, western alliance
I'd like to talk to you further. Can you tell me Whats App number?

The following is my contact information:
Company name: Shenzhen Xinyao Biotechnology Co., Ltd.
Contact: Andy
Telephone: +8618925109871
Whats App and Skype: 18925109871
Email address: andy18925109871@qq.com
Have a good day
Andy
Waiting for your good news.

Are you looking to add and message "Andy"  on whatsapp?

Add this number +8618925109871 as written to your contacts and you should be able to send a whatsapp message to it.

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« Reply #65 on: June 10, 2020, 09:28:10 AM »
Nah, the fact is that I busted the whole supplement industry here. Don't need any more. They're all doing the same China scam. EVERY one. Question is what do I to to all of them?  I am part of the community or I wouldn't be here, so not sure I want to shut down the main way the industry has supported itself, but Not ONE manufacturer has anything to do with the manufacturing and illegally lists CHINESE CRAP as "formulas we designed for maximum muscle gain and fat loss". Hell you could do a video just going to the Olympia EXPO and asking every booth where they MADE their product, could be interesting, with paperwork to blast them, Someone could do a youtube video and maybe go viral. But not me. Unless someone pushes me in the industry. Cease and desist or some shit then I go Great White Shark on them.

But I will keep my report for Getbig. Much BIGGER stuff about industry coming. But this part of investigation, with others help, I have exposed the supplement industry.  It's ALL bullshit from China, with very rare exceptions like Cytosport Muscle Milk, which was owned by Hormel, so had the bucks to go mainstream in supermarkets with properly made product.

But supplements are done. The whole game of "our team put together a supplement through tireless trial and error with a specific blend of aminos, and"....blah blah blah.... It's over Johnny, it's over. Notomorrow exposed this bullshit part of the industry once and for all.  Just wanted to add Control Labs for good measure, the one some dude is hocking on one of the threads. No offense guy, but it's OVER.

Movin on to next part of industry.


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« Reply #66 on: June 11, 2020, 12:27:16 AM »
     Actually it's never over is it? The winding road of power. The elite gave us that which can destroy them, information. Now they are desperately trying to take it back with censorship but it's too late, my report proves that. Education was traditionally for the nobles, Socrates was a noble, why all the Greek references on college campuses. Education was privilege and status. But they slipped up and made the internet free. They gave us the power of the nobles and can't take it back. And just like a classic tragedy, their hubris caused their fall.

     You think there would be police protests if the Floyd video was never uploaded? Or without the fast, video capable phones they got us addicted to?, where I can stream the murder right to youtube. No destroying evidence. An eight grader can show his lazy, public school history teacher a video of a Phd Harvard History Chair saying his eight grade teacher's view on WWII is completely wrong. The power is gone. And a meathead from Getbig may just have the power to require all Bodybuilding supplements to say MADE IN CHINA for the OLYMPIA EXPO. I could, but I won't. I love bodybuilding, don't want to destroy lives. But expose the truth.

     The supplement thing just gets bigger and bigger. There is actually one bodybuilding supplement company that says ....With state-of-the-art production facilities in Aurora, Illinois; Walterboro, South Carolina and Sunrise, Florida, ON is one of the few sports nutrition companies to manufacture in every product category. me finish supplements. ON is Optimum Nutrition and has a deal with Walmart. However Optimum Nutrition is owned by a company named Glanbia which is a wholesaler, just like the Chinese guys, that sells ready made supplements to companies, with "special formulas", pick your flavors and packaging.

     I cannot find this supposed address of manufacturing plants for Optimum Nutrition but I did find our good ole friend XINYAO BIO looking like they make it. So someone please look on a recent bottle of Optimum Nutrition and see if is says Made in the USA as it claims on it's site. Has to list country of manufacture by law. But if Optimum Nutrition is pulling this shit, and has a contract with Walmart, then WALMART is pulling the Chinese scam.

     Anyway, here are a couple very important pages, First, these companies are the main competition for wholesalers. Everyone goes to these guys and it's why Musclepharm went public. They became a wholesaler. But looks like Musclepharm is doing the old Chinese scam. So is Optimum Nutrition and Glanbia. Look at the page fast before they blur it out.

https://craft.co/glanbia/competitors

     So it's narrowed it down to Glanbia and Musclepharm, and a whole mess of Chinese alphabet soup companies. Maybe companies have lawyers who can explain breaking the law and concealing that they are made in China. But this is the entire industry.  Here is the product listings of XINYAO BIO. Do a search for your favorite supplement. Too many thousands to scroll through. They made it.  Not sure what to do with all this.Here's Glanbia that owns Optimum Nutrition that is supposedly made in the US. More to come. Whole thing is just so corrupt. Oh and please someone check a recent Optimum Nutrition label and see if it says made in the USA as they claim.

Glanbia has already been in Federal Court over buying from China(https://www.irishtimes.com/business/agribusiness-and-food/glanbia-to-defend-us-lawsuit-over-drink-ingredients-from-china-1.4129939?.

https://m.made-in-china.com/company-xinyao88/productlist.html


This China scam goes all the way to the top.

https://www.glanbianutritionals.com/en/what-we-do/categories/sports-performance-nutrition


They are all so shady with all the different ways of getting around a CEO and listing where the hell they make their product. The physical room they supps are made. These people man. Yeah this post was too wordy and long. Sorry about that. I am working on editing to be a better investigative journalist.



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Re: Google search is Microsoft puppet
« Reply #67 on: June 11, 2020, 03:15:53 AM »
Will NoToday cause Optimum Nutrition to fold?
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« Reply #68 on: June 11, 2020, 04:49:45 AM »
Were EAS supplements (Bill Phillips) also made in China?

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« Reply #69 on: June 11, 2020, 08:21:38 AM »
Were EAS supplements (Bill Phillips) also made in China?
My hunch is yes and that this has been going on for YEARS. Although EAS was bought by Abbott Labs so trace Abbott and yep, it goes eventually to China. Bill Phillips actually started MM2000 with his brother Shawn on pure drug money. Dan Duchaine was invlolved with those little blue dbol from Tijuana(Ludwig Heun, Germanay, lol).

Anyway, I was hesitant to take them down, but after all the lying to bodybuilders and fitness enthusiasts for so many years, I think it's right to shut that shit down. How many of them have become millionaires, how many bodybuilders get supplement contracts based on this lie? Olympia expo may just have to list those fucking products as "Made in China" thanks to Notomorrow. I think it's best to get an interview, get a supplement company to talk to me to get their side, as I don't have their side yet. Will update. Can someone do me a favor and just look at an Optimum Nutrition label and see if it says Made in USA?

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« Reply #70 on: June 11, 2020, 08:40:16 AM »
I hate the Microsoft browser BING, no offense to those that like the thing, and I couldn't figure out how to turn it off and use Google so out of frustration I typed "I hate Bing" into Google search to find people like me. The top hit came back an article on "Why I ditched Google for Bing". It was not listed as an advertisement and is the default hit promoting Bing. I thought Google competed with Bing so I investigated.

I realize now that the first hit is spam I guess but it was not listed as such, and some  elderly person(and me) would never know that,
 
https://www.wired.com/story/tried-bing-search-google-microsoft/ 

The article was written by Wired, which is part of Linkedin, which Bill Gates purchased,so Wired is a propaganda machine for Microsoft. Conde Nast owns Wired, and Microsoft owns Conde Nast. The chief editor of Wired.com is Nicholas Thompson, a Microsoft employee. In fact when I just typed in "Bing Search engine" in Google, the first hits were always praising Bing, despite an algorithm that is supposedly used. All of the other "objective" initial hits were by sites like zdnet, with CEO Andrew J. Brust who was Microsoft regional director. Or Medium.com with CEO Evan Williams who is director of Microsoft, Australia. All those weird little hits are Microsoft executives or related to MSFT yet are presented as legitimate articles on Bing vs. Google browser.

Microsoft essentially owns Google through a company called Alphabet Techology(GOOG). Alphabet is a "holding company", with a mysterious web of holdings, Google being one.

Sunday Pichai became CEO of Alphabet(GOOG), yet he was up for CEO of Microsoft n 2014. Satya Nadella, another Indian, is now CEO of Microsoft. This gets to the Indian connection and vaccine corruption.

Satya Nadella, India and the WHO was integral in allowing Bill Gates to do his polio vaccine testing, as well as HPV and other vaccine testing in India.  Gates, the Indian Government and Saudi Prince Alwaleed essentially own the World Health Orgainization, with Gates and Alwaleed being the biggest private citizen investors in the WHO.   A rare independent article said

Promising his share of $450 million of $1.2 billion to eradicate Polio, Gates took control of India’s National Technical Advisory Group on Immunization (NTAGI) which mandated up to 50 doses (Table 1) of polio vaccines through overlapping immunization programs to children before the age of five. Indian doctors blame the Gates campaign for a devastating non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP) epidemic that paralyzed 490,000 children beyond expected rates between 2000 and 2017. In 2017, the Indian government dialed back Gates’ vaccine regimen and asked Gates and his vaccine policies to leave India. NPAFP rates dropped precipitously. The death of girls who were a part of a Human Papilloma Virus vaccine trial has raised an alarm about the nature of research in India as well as the value attached by the state to the lives of its citizens.

A trial was being conducted in Andhra Pradesh and Gujarat by the NGO PATH with support from the Indian Council of Medical Research and local health authorities. They were funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. The vaccine is supplied by two companies, Merck Sharpe & Dohme and Glaxo Smith Kline.

When the government stopped the trials, three doses had already been administered to 30,000 participants, mostly tribal girls aged between 9 and 14.

The union health minister, Ghulam Nabi Azad, has denied that the deaths have anything to do with the trials, and as things stand, there is no conclusive evidence of a causal link between the vaccine and the deaths. But the fact that the girls were a part of the trial is reason enough to warrant further investigations.

A committee has been constituted by the union government to investigate the deaths. Further action will depend on the report of the committee.

An investigation in one of the sites in AP, coordinated by the women’s health group SAMA, revealed that the trials recruited tribal girls from poor areas. These girls were malnourished. To worsen the situation, consent forms for the trial are in English which even the health care provider administering the vaccine to them may not be able to read, let alone the participants.


I am NOT claiming this is true, but you will find NO objective articles through a google search, as ANY search regarding Microsoft, Bing or vaccines about Gates will all be those bullshit sites run by someone with a connection to Microsoft, despite the "algorithm", that is supposed to be objective.

Truth is Bill Gates has ownership of nearly all articles you will read about Microsoft, both through his purchase of Linkedin and the various web companies they own. There is no chance of an independent search on Google about anything Microsoft because Google is a figurehead company owned by Alphabet(GOOG). Evan Williams, for example, who lead Microsoft Australia also "came up" with Twitter, and now Gates is a big investor in Twitter.

I was only trying to find "I hate Bing" and realized Google Search is a Microsoft puppet.

I'm sure many of you have already made these connections, but this was new to me.

Notomorrow

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« Reply #71 on: June 11, 2020, 09:02:31 AM »
My hunch is yes and that this has been going on for YEARS. Bill Phillips actually started MM2000 with his brother Shawn on pure drug money. Dan Duchaine was invlolved with those little blue dbol from Tijuana(Ludwig Heun, Germanay, lol).

Anyway, I was hesitant to take them down, but after all the lying to bodybuilders and fitness enthusiasts for so many years, I think it's right to shut that shit down. How many of them have become millionaires, how many bodybuilders get supplement contracts based on this lie? Olympia expo may just have to list those fucking products as "Made in China" thanks to Notomorrow. I think it's best to get an interview, get a supplement company to talk to me to get their side, as I don't have their side yet. Will update. Can someone do me a favor and just look at an Optimum Nutrition label and see if it says Made in USA?
I think Dan Duchaine started making Ultimate Orange in his garage and EAS was a very small company in Colorado before Phillips bought it.  Of course, when those supplements went mainstream they probably got their stuff from China.  Ultimate Orange was the best pre workout supplement ever when it first came out and within a year or so it was obvious they changed the ingredients.

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« Reply #72 on: June 11, 2020, 09:33:28 AM »
I think Dan Duchaine started making Ultimate Orange in his garage and EAS was a very small company in Colorado before Phillips bought it.  Of course, when those supplements went mainstream they probably got their stuff from China.
EAS was a total bait and switch. They created MuscleMedia2000 as the hardcore magazine, with steroid profiles and hardcore information. This established credibility in the bodybuilding community, once they had that, they became just Muscle Media and had a bullshit mag that hocked EAS. Brilliant marketing. It was also a plan of Dr. Scott Connelly to launch Met-RX. In fact Sylvester Stallone had a part also by allowing EAS to imply he used Met-Rx. Whole thing was bullshit as Scott Connelly was

In early interviews and promotional materials, Connelly marketed himself as a 1973 Harvard Medical School graduate, and claimed he was on the faculty of Stanford Medical School between 1979 and 1986. However, Connelly was only at Harvard as a post-grad "special student" in the 1973-74 academic year. He then got his Doctor of Medicine in anesthesia from Boston University School of Medicine in 1978 and did a one-year Stanford fellowship in 1981. Connelly was an unpaid clinical instructor and was never part of the full-time faculty at Stanford.[11]

I will look into whether that original MET RX was actually made in China and the whole "metamyosin" scam. I traced the research that Connelly claimed he tested Met-Rx on burn patients in a critical state to develop Met-Rx.

However the research was done at Brigham and Women's hospital and this is the abstract of the actual study I believe Met-Rx pretended to use. Brigham and Women's hospital was doing a generic study on hospital bound patients being fed protein to spare body mass. It had NOTHING to do with Met-rx research so Connelly used this BIG STRETCH to say that in a hospital, patients may need more protein into implying that Met-Rx was doing it.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28296670/

And what Connelly left out of the research is that the patients were also given HGH!!!!!!!!

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7922450/



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EAS was a total bait and switch. They created MuscleMedia2000 as the hardcore magazine, with steroid profiles and hardcore information. This established credibility in the bodybuilding community, once they had that, they became just Muscle Media and had a bullshit mag that hocked EAS. Brilliant marketing. It was also a plan of Dr. Scott Connelly to launch Met-RX. In fact Sylvester Stallone had a part also by allowing EAS to imply he used Met-Rx. Whole thing was bullshit as Scott Connelly was

In early interviews and promotional materials, Connelly marketed himself as a 1973 Harvard Medical School graduate, and claimed he was on the faculty of Stanford Medical School between 1979 and 1986. However, Connelly was only at Harvard as a post-grad "special student" in the 1973-74 academic year. He then got his Doctor of Medicine in anesthesia from Boston University School of Medicine in 1978 and did a one-year Stanford fellowship in 1981. Connelly was an unpaid clinical instructor and was never part of the full-time faculty at Stanford.[11]

I will look into whether that original MET RX was actually made in China and the whole "metamyosin" scam. I traced the research that Connelly claimed he tested Met-Rx on burn patients in a critical state to develop Met-Rx.

However the research was done at Brigham and Women's hospital and this is the abstract of the actual study I believe Met-Rx pretended to use. Brigham and Women's hospital was doing a generic study on hospital bound patients being fed protein to spare body mass. It had NOTHING to do with Met-rx research so Connelly used this BIG STRETCH to say that in a hospital, patients may need more protein into implying that Met-Rx was doing it.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28296670/

And what Connelly left out of the research is that the patients were also given HGH!!!!!!!!

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7922450/
EAS wasn't Phillips company until after MM2K was already in circulation.  If I remember right he bought EAS from 2 guys that had a small lab in Colorado.  I think they were the first to use creatine as a supplement.  After Phillips bought the company he hocked the supplements on MM2K and made millions.  It is almost certain he bought the supps from China as there is no way a tiny company could fill thousands (maybe millions) of orders overnight.

Phillips, Connelly, and Duchaine were all shady characters from the start.  Any supplement testing that was done was on enhanced trainers including themselves.  Duchaine was an unhealthy drug addict who used every steroid or any other drug he could get his hands on and died young.  Phillips at least was smart and sold everything to retire to a life of luxury.  I remember getting an advertisement for MM2K before the magazine was even in print and getting a subscription immediately.  It was the only mag at the time honest about steroid use but even they lied about supplements.  What should anyone expect of those in this industry.