Milos Sarvev latest on insulin - RX Muscle

[harmankardon1]

Basta..

Don't get me wrong...

I enjoy Italians, there are many here where I live, they have great values and hustle.

[airman23]

Milos admits that Synthol ended his career and that playing the size game was a mistake.

If Dave used more drugs than anyone, I don't know. He claims he used very low doses. And the GH and insulin doses, if we are to believe him, were absolutely tiny.

I do remember one funny comment by Bob Chic here. Someone asked Bob if anything was wrong with Dave's off season diet. Bob goes, what's right with it? It was tons of McDonalds, Met-Rx and Ultra Fuel drinks, a lot of eggs.

It was Dave's "tiny" GH doses, that have made him the only person in the world that wears size 15 shoes at the height of 5'8"   

[ESFitness]

It was Dave's "tiny" GH doses, that have made him the only person in the world that wears size 15 shoes at the height of 5'8"   

Since when. Is Dave 5'8"?

[ESFitness]

Milos admits that Synthol ended his career and that playing the size game was a mistake.

If Dave used more drugs than anyone, I don't know. He claims he used very low doses. And the GH and insulin doses, if we are to believe him, were absolutely tiny.

I do remember one funny comment by Bob Chic here. Someone asked Bob if anything was wrong with Dave's off season diet. Bob goes, what's right with it? It was tons of McDonalds, Met-Rx and Ultra Fuel drinks, a lot of eggs.

I think it's more like Milo's (& Titus, and I suppose Pete grymkowski) used more drugs than anyone (at the time).

I think it's usually guys on the msg boards who have very little experience with or knowledge about steroids who bbers either use way less or way more than they say. Especially the guys who think all bbers buy their drugs at retail from suppliers in Europe or whatever and the possibility that a pro bodybuilder is also a steroid dealer with an unlimited supply is beyond their comprehension.... Bbers who have unlimited supply and are generally experimental risk takers tend to push limits, esp if they don't have genetics like their peers & despite Milo's legs,chest, and midsection, he never held the same genetics as others for back/delts/arms. I absolutely believe Milo's (& others) used more than Dave.

[Bevo]

Don't get me wrong...

I enjoy Italians, there are many here where I live, they have great values and hustle.

Italians? As from Italy? Or Americans?

[Bevo]

It was Dave's "tiny" GH doses, that have made him the only person in the world that wears size 15 shoes at the height of 5'8"   

It’s actually size 16 he stated  at 5’8! Ridiculous. Size 16 for shoes is usually someone like 6’6 or taller

[ProudVirgin69]

Using insulin to manage GH-induced hyperglycemia is the "healthiest" way to do it.  It's like donating blood or managing your estrogen levels - a little bit of prevention now goes a long way in the future.  Use just enough insulin to control your blood sugar. 

Attempting to use insulin as an anabolic is where physiques get ruined IMO.  Shooting an amount of insulin and eating enough carbs to cover it is going about it backwards.  Yeah it'll add scale weight but it'll ruin most physiques.

[Van_Bilderass]

It was Dave's "tiny" GH doses, that have made him the only person in the world that wears size 15 shoes at the height of 5'8"   

But, does GH in any dose in fact grow your feet? We need some critical thinking here.  HIV patients have received 18iu per day for example, where are reports of these homos all wearing clown shoes? 

Dave has a very monkey-like facial features too, or perhaps cro-magnon is a better term. I don't think that is from GH either. Pretty special genetics that respond like crazy to drugs. Which isn't to say he didn't use a lot of drugs, just that his genetics aren't average.

[MAXX]

Insulin caused the pregnant look. Milos is an idiot.

It may saturade the muscle but after a few months of abuse they look like pregnant cows.

[Van_Bilderass]

Insulin caused the pregnant look. Milos is an idiot.

It may saturade the muscle but after a few months of abuse they look like pregnant cows.

Milos would say these guys are using it "wrong"
He denies the guts are due to insulin per se, and points to his own waist. I would say yes and no, insulin doesn't help things but there is more going on.

[vascsurgeon]

But, does GH in any dose in fact grow your feet? We need some critical thinking here.  HIV patients have received 18iu per day for example, where are reports of these homos all wearing clown shoes? 

Dave has a very monkey-like facial features too, or perhaps cro-magnon is a better term. I don't think that is from GH either. Pretty special genetics that respond like crazy to drugs. Which isn't to say he didn't use a lot of drugs, just that his genetics aren't average.

Dave has acromegaly secondary to HGH abuse. Short bones such as facial, foot, hand, elbow and knee grow, long bones such as arms and legs do not. Add to that the fact that organs grow, cardiomegaly, heptomegaly etc, often resulting in serious medical issues, not unlike what Dave will be dealing with the rest of his life, sadly.

[Humble Narcissist]

Dave has acromegaly secondary to HGH abuse. Short bones such as facial, foot, hand, elbow and knee grow, long bones such as arms and legs do not. Add to that the fact that organs grow, cardiomegaly, heptomegaly etc, often resulting in serious medical issues, not unlike what Dave will be dealing with the rest of his life, sadly.

At least it won't be a long life.

[Van_Bilderass]

Dave has acromegaly secondary to HGH abuse. Short bones such as facial, foot, hand, elbow and knee grow, long bones such as arms and legs do not. Add to that the fact that organs grow, cardiomegaly, heptomegaly etc, often resulting in serious medical issues, not unlike what Dave will be dealing with the rest of his life, sadly.

Today's bodybuilders have easier and more access to GH and they all use it. If what you say is true, they should all have huge feet, along with all the rest of the acromegalia symptoms. Is this the case? Would be interesting to know the shoe sizes of all the pros, if they are abnormally large. I know people who have used say 8-10iu for a decade or two, in cycles, and they don't appear acromegalic. Dave claims GH should be used at low doses such as 2-6iu and that's what he did. It's possible that's BS and he used very high doses. Same with the insulin, he talked about doing one or two shots of 10iu max, which isn't shit. Sometimes he recommended a 2iu shot only Lol. Milos recommends more like 50iu per workout from what I've seen (total pre- and post) and if you train twice that's many times more than Dave claimed to have done.

No matter the drugs, this will fuck up your waistline:

MEAL #1: 10 whole eggs with 1 cup oats-- eat cooked
MEAL #2: 1.5 Met-Rx Packets (white packet) with 100g carb (ultrafuel)
MEAL #3: 6 McDonalds Cheeseburgers with Fries and 2 Apple Pies
MEAL #4: 1.5 Met-Rx Packets
(white packet) with 100g carb (ultrafuel)
MEAL #5: 12 whole eggs, 1 cup oats, 1 cup apple juice, 40g whey protein-- BLEND and DRINK
MEAL #6: 1.5 Met-Rx Packets (white packet) with 100g carb (ultrafuel)
MEAL #7: Chicken (8oz) with 1 cup rice
MEAL #8: 1.5 Met-Rx Packets (white packet) with 100g carb (ultrafuel)
MEAL #9: 12 Whole eggs, 1 cup oats, 1 cup apple juice, 40 g whey-- BLEND and DRINK
MEAL #10: 1.5 Met-Rx Packets (white packet) with 100g carb (ultrafuel)
MEAL #11: (middle of night: 3am) 1.5 Met-Rx Packets (white packet) with 100g carb (ultrafuel)
MEAL #12 (middle of night: 5am) 1.5 Met-Rx Packets (white packet) with 100g carb (ultrafuel) 

[Humble Narcissist]

Today's bodybuilders have easier and more access to GH and they all use it. If what you say is true, they should all have huge feet, along with all the rest of the acromegalia symptoms. Is this the case? Would be interesting to know the shoe sizes of all the pros, if they are abnormally large. I know people who have used say 8-10iu for a decade or two, in cycles, and they don't appear acromegalic. Dave claims GH should be used at low doses such as 2-6iu and that's what he did. It's possible that's BS and he used very high doses. Same with the insulin, he talked about doing one or two shots of 10iu max, which isn't shit. Sometimes he recommended a 2iu shot only Lol. Milos recommends more like 50iu per workout from what I've seen (total pre- and post) and if you train twice that's many times more than Dave claimed to have done.

No matter the drugs, this will fuck up your waistline:

Does GH make the cock grow bigger as well?  Asking for a friend.

[Van_Bilderass]

Does GH make the cock grow bigger as well?  Asking for a friend.

Ask tbombz. I think he said he did 40iu a day. I think he said it didn't grow the cock, but I could be wrong.

[MAXX]

Ask tbombz. I think he said he did 40iu a day. I think he said it didn't grow the cock, but I could be wrong.

sounds like complete BS

that would be at least 400$/day

12.000$/month. How can you believe that?

[vascsurgeon]

Today's bodybuilders have easier and more access to GH and they all use it. If what you say is true, they should all have huge feet, along with all the rest of the acromegalia symptoms. Is this the case? Would be interesting to know the shoe sizes of all the pros, if they are abnormally large. I know people who have used say 8-10iu for a decade or two, in cycles, and they don't appear acromegalic. Dave claims GH should be used at low doses such as 2-6iu and that's what he did. It's possible that's BS and he used very high doses. Same with the insulin, he talked about doing one or two shots of 10iu max, which isn't shit. Sometimes he recommended a 2iu shot only Lol. Milos recommends more like 50iu per workout from what I've seen (total pre- and post) and if you train twice that's many times more than Dave claimed to have done.

No matter the drugs, this will fuck up your waistline:

Big difference between use and abuse, see Dave for the latter. Despite his claims, he used more drugs along with HGH than anyone. Just look at him, also those that were around at the time all knew about his drug usage.

[Methyl m1ke]

Doesn't that make sense? You get type 2 diabetes from chronic high blood sugar. Insulin lowers blood sugar.

You get type 2 diabetes from insulin resistance. Plenty of people live yheir llives with high blood sugar and have no issues. Genetics and activity level etc. all play a role.

[Van_Bilderass]

sounds like complete BS

that would be at least 400$/day

12.000$/month. How can you believe that?

It was Chinese so much cheaper. The context of him mentioning the dose makes me believe it, no reason to make it up.  It's possible, people are crafty when it comes to drugs.

[pellius]

You get type 2 diabetes from insulin resistance. Plenty of people live yheir llives with high blood sugar and have no issues. Genetics and activity level etc. all play a role.

But don't all people who do develop insulin resistance get it from chronically high blood sugar levels?

[Teutonic Knight 1]

Does GH make the cock grow bigger as well?  Asking for a friend.

Probably if you are 7 months old !.

Ask Lee Priest  & other short BB's, if HGH "works" on + 25yo why they don't grow !.

[Bevo]

Today's bodybuilders have easier and more access to GH and they all use it. If what you say is true, they should all have huge feet, along with all the rest of the acromegalia symptoms. Is this the case? Would be interesting to know the shoe sizes of all the pros, if they are abnormally large. I know people who have used say 8-10iu for a decade or two, in cycles, and they don't appear acromegalic. Dave claims GH should be used at low doses such as 2-6iu and that's what he did. It's possible that's BS and he used very high doses. Same with the insulin, he talked about doing one or two shots of 10iu max, which isn't shit. Sometimes he recommended a 2iu shot only Lol. Milos recommends more like 50iu per workout from what I've seen (total pre- and post) and if you train twice that's many times more than Dave claimed to have done.

No matter the drugs, this will fuck up your waistline:

Levrone stated his feet grew, but when he stopped it returned back to normal 

[Bevo]

Ask tbombz. I think he said he did 40iu a day. I think he said it didn't grow the cock, but I could be wrong.

He was also using a bathmate to grow the cock

Wonder if it is still for sale 

[ESFitness]

sounds like complete BS

that would be at least 400$/day

12.000$/month. How can you believe that?

Where do you get $400???

Serostim kit is 126iu and runs between 450-700, free if you have HIV/AIDS.

Even Humatrope back in the day was like $80-120 for what? 36iu?

Chinese generics run $1.20-3/iu

[ESFitness]

Rich Piana also wore like a size 15 shoe or something, and he's been on record taking 18+ iu/day, but he was a good 6ft+.

Paul dillet supposedly used 18iu/day at 6'1" & never heard of him wearing floppy clown shoes, and I'm sure they're not the only guys running a vial of serostim a day back then. Pro's aren't the only guys who use big doses back in the 90s and early 2000. There are plenty of suppliers who had unlimited supply and were fine with just being gym-freaks, never competing but walking around at a lean 280+ year round. (The dudes you'd see in the crowd at NPC shows)