Racism - An unsolvable problem - since whites can never understand - discuss

[B_B_C]

Ive had conversations with fat friends, ugly,short,bald and black.The black friends dont get discriminated as much as the others.Your mileage may vary.

we all have conversations  some casual some sincere
my mileage also includes the slim, the beautiful, the tall the white

[TheShape.]

Racism is a natural feeling, it’s tribalism. We were never meant to be all mixed together, we all deserve our own sovereign nations. Ethnostates are the only true ways towards peace and happiness.

[Primemuscle]

Ive had conversations with fat friends, ugly,short,bald and black.The black friends dont get discriminated as much as the others.Your mileage may vary.

You clearly have a lot of varied friends.

[joswift]

You are confusing empathy for sympathy.

Correct
I don't really believe empathy even exists, sympathy means to know how you would feel in the same circumstances
Empathy means you know how they feel, thats impossible, even if exactly the same thing has happened to you, you have no idea how anther person feels.

[SOMEPARTS]

In any case, this guy isn't helping things 

"During a hearing Tuesday on whether to declare racism a public health crisis in Ohio, a Republican state senator referred to "the colored population" and questioned whether African Americans get COVID-19 more often because they do not wash their hands as much.

"Could it just be that African Americans – the colored population – do not wash their hands as well as other groups? Or wear a mask? Or do not socially distance themselves? Could that just be maybe the explanation of why there’s a higher incidence?" said state Sen. Steve Huffman of Tipp City, north of Dayton."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-ohio-state-senator-wonders-115807260.html



And yes, the NAACP has that word in it but this guy has to be smarter than that.

[robcguns]

Watch this Rob

https://twitter.com/DJ_TPGReport/status/1271064745215475713

Fuck Kwon,that video almost made me put a white sheet on and parade around.Wtf I’m really losing it.

[pellius]

It is somewhat similar to the Palestinian/Israeli conflict. Being the only White guy living in an all Black neighborhood for over four years I gain some insight into the culture. Mind you, I really had no preconceived notions regarding Blacks because in Hawaii there are so few and they are mostly in neighborhoods with military bases. So to me, they were no different appearance-wise than Tongans, Samoans, Hawaiians...

Like Palestinians are taught from birth that Jews are their oppressors and the cause of all their problems, such is the case with Blacks vis-a-vis Whites. It's endemic and burned in their culture and even their DNA. All of life is seen through the prism of racism. Even in college, a Black friend told me he always keeps track at how many Blacks are in the class. They all do. Always keeping a racial count to further convince them how they are the minority and by definition oppressed.

One thing White people should understand and burn into their thought processes: there is nothing -- NOTHING -- you can do that will alleviate this. No matter how many affirmative action programs, no matter if they got reparations, no matter if they are disproportionately represented in all aspects of jobs and opportunities it will never be enough. We had a Black president yet we are still a racist country. Blacks represent over 80% of the pro basketball yet the NBA is still racist. Just ask a Black person what it will take for them to just stop with the bitching and moaning.

No country has done more to help Blacks and give them more opportunities and success than this country. We fought a war where over a million people died to give Blacks equal rights. The vast majority of Americans want Blacks to be happy and successful, if only for their own peace and safety. It will never be enough. It has to come from them not White people. The Black inner-city culture is a culture of failure. I don't see this impasse changing in my life time so just forget about trying to appease them and separate yourself as much as you can from their culture and neighborhood and live your own life in peace.

[robcguns]

It is somewhat similar to the Palestinian/Israeli conflict. Being the only White guy living in an all Black neighborhood for over four years I gain some incite into the culture. Mind you, I really had no preconceived notions regarding Blacks because in Hawaii there are so few and they are mostly in neighborhoods with military bases. So to me, they were no different appearance-wise than Tongans, Samoans, Hawaiians...

Like Palestinians are taught from birth that Jews are their oppressors and the cause of all their problems, such is the case with Blacks vis-a-vis Whites. It's endemic and burned in their culture and even their DNA. All of life is seen through the prism of racism. Even in college, a Black friend told me he always keeps track at how many Blacks are in the class. They all do. Always keeping a racial count to further convince them how they are the minority and by definition oppressed.

One thing White people should understand and burn into their thought processes: there is nothing -- NOTHING -- you can do that will alleviate this. No matter how many affirmative action programs, no matter if they got reparations, no matter if they are disproportionately represented in all aspects of jobs and opportunities it will never be enough. We had a Black president yet we are still a racist country. Blacks represent over 80% of the pro basketball yet the NBA is still racist. Just ask a Black person what it will take for them to just stop with the bitching and moaning.

No country has done more to help Blacks and give them more opportunities and success than this country. We fought a war where over a million people died to give Blacks equal rights. The vast majority of Americans want Blacks to be happy and successful, if only for their own peace and safety. It will never be enough. It has to come from them not White people. The Black inner-city culture is a culture of failure. I don't see this impasse changing in my life time so just forget about trying to appease them and separate yourself as much as you can from their culture and neighborhood and live your own life in peace.

Well said

[Kwon]

It is somewhat similar to the Palestinian/Israeli conflict. Being the only White guy living in an all Black neighborhood for over four years I gain some incite into the culture. Mind you, I really had no preconceived notions regarding Blacks because in Hawaii there are so few and they are mostly in neighborhoods with military bases. So to me, they were no different appearance-wise than Tongans, Samoans, Hawaiians...

Like Palestinians are taught from birth that Jews are their oppressors and the cause of all their problems, such is the case with Blacks vis-a-vis Whites. It's endemic and burned in their culture and even their DNA. All of life is seen through the prism of racism. Even in college, a Black friend told me he always keeps track at how many Blacks are in the class. They all do. Always keeping a racial count to further convince them how they are the minority and by definition oppressed.

One thing White people should understand and burn into their thought processes: there is nothing -- NOTHING -- you can do that will alleviate this. No matter how many affirmative action programs, no matter if they got reparations, no matter if they are disproportionately represented in all aspects of jobs and opportunities it will never be enough. We had a Black president yet we are still a racist country. Blacks represent over 80% of the pro basketball yet the NBA is still racist. Just ask a Black person what it will take for them to just stop with the bitching and moaning.

No country has done more to help Blacks and give them more opportunities and success than this country. We fought a war where over a million people died to give Blacks equal rights. The vast majority of Americans want Blacks to be happy and successful, if only for their own peace and safety. It will never be enough. It has to come from them not White people. The Black inner-city culture is a culture of failure. I don't see this impasse changing in my life time so just forget about trying to appease them and separate yourself as much as you can from their culture and neighborhood and live your own life in peace.

Great post!

[Megalodon]

Problem Solved!


Seattle's Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone(CHAZ) is actually working out well. Who knew it would be this easy to formulate a better world.

Always defer to your new society's angriest, loudest, lowest IQ'd citizens because that's never going to get old.

Utopia:

New Type of Law Enforcement!

Have your mob surround the suspect and interrogate them while one of your crew brandishes a baseball bat at face level.

Innovative Media relations!

Kick reporters out of your new society while telling them they don't matter and threatening to rape them.

 

[Dave D]

Which would you rather be, a fat kid or a black kid? Imagine what it might be like to be a fat, black kid.

Empathy works both ways. Black folks may be more inclined to emphasize with non-blacks who are victimized if white folks had some empathy for their being victims.

How many fat folks are harassed by police because they are fat?

Most people can't fully understand something until they've experienced it themselves. For example, if you've never been  raped, you cannot know how you would react if it happened to you. You an only imagine this.

Okay we can’t know other people’s experience unless we are them. Fine.

So now that this is our baseline what have we learned? No one knows anything. My trauma and how I deal with them is my issue and you don’t get to have an opinion on it.

But the problem is we don’t live in a bubble. And we live in a time when everyone’s feelings matter as long as it’s what groupthink says is right. Nothing is new. Nothing is changed.

We all have issues and unfairness that we deal with.

The question is what is the real issue? White privilege? That’s not going away until whites are out numbered by another “color”. And then it will only intensify, just like it does with every ethnic group. Or social group. Why do many men join fraternity’s? Because that group looks out for one another, at school and later in life in the workplace. Is that favoritism permissible?

If the issue is police brutality I can get behind that. That is real, for whites, blacks, Asians, men and women. We should focus on the real issue.

But it’s easier to believe and push  the narrative.

[Walter Sobchak]

A minority segment of society, that has zero respect for themselves or others, is demanding that the rest of society treat them with respect, sympathy, and as equals.

People need to realize that preferring your race to others does not mean you automatically hate all other races. Racial preference is not racism because no hatred is involved.

[Tennisballz]

This is all pointless.  It's just not going to work.  The sooner we just divide up the United States, the sooner we can all move on with our lives. 

[falco]

[Body-Buildah]

From an email...

Even Trump-hating, super-Liberal CNN host Chris Cuomo raised his eyebrows (around 1’16”) at this statement.  LOL!
This stupid asshole (the mayor, a Democrat, of course) is a complete disaster for Seattle (a Sanctuary City, as you probably know).  Click here for the story and Video.
Washington Governor Jay Inslee said he spoke with the mayor about the situation, calling the occupation "largely peaceful" and "fundamentally American."  There’s some double-talk!
I hope you Democrats on my Email list aren’t as insanely Left-Wing as many of the Democratic leaders in the blue states are.  I’m fine with sane Democrats, but lunatic Liberals, not so much.
If it can happen in Seattle, where BLM activists and Antifa are totally allowed to get away with anarchy, as they are, it could easily happen in your city.
And if Biden becomes president, I’d bet you could count on it.

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HBO Max has temporarily removed “Gone with the Wind” because of ‘racist depictions’.  The film will be re-added with additional historical context.
"This is idiotic.  We should learn from the past, not pretend it never existed," The Hollywood Reporter's awards columnist Scott Feinberg tweeted.

It looks like the TV series "Cops" might be off the air for good, according to Paramount Network, the channel currently behind the show.  It has been on for 32 Seasons!
The announcement came shortly after the series was pulled from the air in response to the growing civil unrest.

HBO Max also raised eyebrows when it was announced that "Looney Tunes" characters like Elmer Fudd and Yosemite Sam will not have any guns in the streaming service reboot.
 
That’s idiotic, too, IMHO.  How can you have Fudd and Sam without guns?
 
And it’s all because they cower to all the pathetic, whining babies out there.  What friggin’ next?

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soft, pampered, sensitive, cry-baby, liberal pussies, ha ha

so woke, so cool, so cowardly

[MAXX]

Red pill warning... SJW's do not bother reading...

This all just stems from jealousy. Whites are just better and always have been. All meaningful inventions are from whites.

Whites are only 12% of the worlds population today and it's dwindling by the year. Before you know it we are less than 1%. Not a nice world to live in I can promise you. Can you imagine when the greatest race ever is an endangered species... If anything, white lives matters.

[el numero uno]

The problem is easily solvable but our society is way way way past saving. No one has the guts to do what is needed to keep the ship from sinking.

Getbiggers can solve complex problems like racism and world poverty but somehow can't figure out how to let people know they have the solution.

[Al Doggity]

Being the only White guy living in an all Black neighborhood for over four years I gain some insight into the culture.

You consider yourself white? 

[pellius]

You consider yourself white? 

My father is Irish and English and I identify with White culture.

[Al Doggity]

My father is Irish and English and I identify with White culture.

Interesting. You feel you've experienced a lot of anti-white racism over the course of your life?

[pellius]

Interesting. You feel you've experienced a lot of anti-white racism over the course of your life?

Not really. Though Hawaii is a very anti-White culture I was always referred to as a "Hapa-Haole" meaning half White. One of my brothers who is very light skin had a harder time growing up.

[Al Doggity]

Not really. Though Hawaii is a very anti-White culture I was always referred to as a "Hapa-Haole" meaning half White. One of my brothers who is very light skin had a harder time growing up.

I know you've said you believe white men are the most discriminated against  people  in the country, but I would guess very few people not familiar with your background would assume you were white or even half-white.  Did the blacks in your black neighborhood call you honky?

[Titus Pullo]

Black people want us to understand what they have faced in their lives, when you try and explain that the country is not systemically racist they tell you "because you are white you can never understand"


Who is that in any way solvable?

Once dialogue is gone all thats left is violence.


Until black people realise that other people also feel oppression and victimised nothings going to change.

Getting called derogatory comments for being black is no different than growing up a fat kid...

Change my mind..

I'm not gonna even try because I agree.  You could sub fat or black kid with Jew, someone with obvious physical or mental abnormalities or anything that sets a person apart.  Two examples: 

My peers in junior high school relentlessly picked on Jimmy, a mostly deaf kid who talked a bit like "Tin Ear" Louie Ferrigno.  Most of them called him "Blimmy" given the way he said his own name.  Even some teachers mocked him and "joked" that he was dumb.  One sad sack said that to his face.

The funny thing was, I grappled with Blimmy a few times in the seventh grade.  He was well over six feet tall by then, and strong as a fucking ox.  I was always a strong kid, but at 5'4" and maybe 130, he had me by almost a foot in height and probably 70-80 pounds.  If someone had really honked him off in those days, he could have ripped them a new one.

Second white guy who didn't get no satisfaction from his ethnicity if he tried, if he tried!, was a fat retarded kid named Ted.  He was a ringer for a Ducktales cartoon character named Doofus.  Ted seemed sweet and gentle, but lo and behold, one day in the eighth grade, he showed up at "break" -- a brief period of 15 minutes or so after chow -- wearing this ... tee-shirt that I reckon his grandmother made for him.  His admittedly tard head had been crudely juxtaposed onto a muscular body.

Teachers and students alike laughed at him.  It was sad.

BLM types might say those "white boys" couldn't understand what it's like to be mocked, hated and picked at 'til only the narrow of their bones were left, but I sure as shit NEVER saw a black kid so relentlessly pursued as those two (and others).  And fwiw, the school in question was highly mixed, but I figure there were more shit-kicking, Copenhagen-packing rednecks there than black kids.  Curiously, the rednecks never seemed to pick on blacks or the challenged folk?

[Primemuscle]

You are confusing empathy for sympathy.

Perhaps it is you who is confused.

Empathy is a term we use for the ability to understand other people's feelings as if we were having them ourselves. ... Sympathy refers to the ability to take part in someone else's feelings, mostly by feeling sorrowful about their misfortune.

[Primemuscle]

Correct
I don't really believe empathy even exists, sympathy means to know how you would feel in the same circumstances
Empathy means you know how they feel, thats impossible, even if exactly the same thing has happened to you, you have no idea how anther person feels.

Empathy is a term we use for the ability to understand other people's feelings as if we were having them ourselves. ... Sympathy refers to the ability to take part in someone else's feelings, mostly by feeling sorrowful about their misfortune.