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Kwon

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Re: FDR Statue and Monument should be taken down due to treatment of Italians
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2020, 07:05:55 AM »
Quote from: Griffith on June 23, 2020, 06:46:38 AM
Sicily was under Moslem occupation for a period so that explains why some Sicilians may be darker.

Southern Italy was under the rule of the Normans for hundreds of years and later Spain, Austria and France. The Normans re-claimed Sicily and incorporated it into the Kingdom of Naples and Sicily (Southern Italy).

Long before that, in the times of ancient Greece, Sicily and parts of southern Italy were also colonised by Greeks, and the Romans claimed to be descendants of the Trojans.

After the fall of the Western Roman Empire, Italy was under Ostrogothic (Germanic) rule, then Eastern Roman (Greek), and then the north and parts of the centre was under Longobard (Germanic) rule and then the Franks and then Holy Roman Empire (German), and parts were under Austrian and then French rule. They also had to deal with coastal attacks and raids from the Turks.

Thank you Griffith, Conqueror of Casca!
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Re: As monuments in USA are being toppled
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2020, 07:07:20 AM »
Quote from: Teutonic Knight 1 on June 22, 2020, 03:50:32 PM

Stupid FUCK, that's old restauration photo !.

God, U A so dumb !.

Hey, how is general & 72 virgins   ;D

right, fock yeah


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Re: As monuments in USA are being toppled
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2020, 07:19:10 AM »
They are tearing down confederate and slave owner monuments such as George Washington Bedford, etc.  Hush!!
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Re: As monuments in USA are being toppled
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2020, 07:35:50 AM »
The woman portrayed in the statue of liberty liked the black cock.
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Re: As monuments in USA are being toppled
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2020, 08:15:14 AM »
Liked the black cock, fock yeah. right. ok
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Re: As monuments in USA are being toppled
« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2020, 09:28:11 AM »
Quote from: RK on June 23, 2020, 08:15:14 AM
Liked the black cock, fock yeah. right. ok


Fake news.

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Re: As monuments in USA are being toppled
« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2020, 09:34:02 AM »
Quote from: RK on June 23, 2020, 08:15:14 AM
Liked the black cock, fock yeah. right. ok

She has a green face.  Must have eaten something bad.
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Re: As monuments in USA are being toppled
« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2020, 09:57:19 AM »
No one has the right to destroy property that doesn’t belong to them. These scumbags should be locked up!
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Re: As monuments in USA are being toppled
« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2020, 10:14:06 AM »
Quote from: deadz on June 23, 2020, 09:57:19 AM
No one has the right to destroy property that doesn’t belong to them. These scumbags should be locked up!
The police are doing nothing including protecting people from violent assaults.  This is why the 2nd Amendment support has always been needed.  Now you are on your own for defense of your family and property.  If we allowed laws to take away guns years ago we would be at the mercy of these savages.
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Re: As monuments in USA are being toppled
« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2020, 12:22:53 PM »
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Re: FDR Statue and Monument should be taken down due to treatment of Italians
« Reply #35 on: June 23, 2020, 12:48:20 PM »
Quote from: johnnynoname on June 22, 2020, 11:22:28 AM
i'm a wop


I don't care

EDIT: look- even though some people on /pol like to argue otherwise, we (people of Italian Descent) ARE WHITE and Whites are NOT A MARGINALIZED GROUP

so- yes I see what is trying to be said here but, come on, the "double standard" doesn't work that way

as an additional aside- It's doesn't matter how "Swarthy" a wop is- wops are white

Depends on the era. My grandmother came through Ellis Island with her family from Italy in 1898. They were clearly not treated as whites and were discriminated against as being inferior people for many years.

https://theundefeated.com/features/white-immigrants-werent-always-considered-white-and-acceptable/
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Re: FDR Statue and Monument should be taken down due to treatment of Italians
« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2020, 02:21:06 PM »
Quote from: Hypertrophy on June 23, 2020, 12:48:20 PM
Depends on the era. My grandmother came through Ellis Island with her family from Italy in 1898. They were clearly not treated as whites and were discriminated against as being inferior people for many years.

https://theundefeated.com/features/white-immigrants-werent-always-considered-white-and-acceptable/

sorry but they white....I know some wops try to "sexy" themselves up by trying to do that "we're not white" thing but trust me- we white/Caucasian


some of us may have darker skin, curly hair and bigger noses (shut up) but the box you check off when you get your driver's license is "white"
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Re: FDR Statue and Monument should be taken down due to treatment of Italians
« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2020, 02:23:43 PM »
George Washington is responsible for the death of many Brits during the revolutionary war circa 1780, Id like him cancelled too, who do I speak to on this matter?
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Re: As monuments in USA are being toppled
« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2020, 03:50:43 PM »
Quote from: RK on June 23, 2020, 08:15:14 AM
Liked the black cock, fock yeah. right. ok




Any statues of mohammad & allah in your arab land !.   :D
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Re: FDR Statue and Monument should be taken down due to treatment of Italians
« Reply #39 on: June 23, 2020, 04:00:08 PM »
I’m a dago wop Ginzo.   Family came over 1900 and into Harlem.   


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Hypertrophy

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Re: FDR Statue and Monument should be taken down due to treatment of Italians
« Reply #40 on: June 23, 2020, 04:15:04 PM »
Quote from: johnnynoname on June 23, 2020, 02:21:06 PM
sorry but they white....I know some wops try to "sexy" themselves up by trying to do that "we're not white" thing but trust me- we white/Caucasian


some of us may have darker skin, curly hair and bigger noses (shut up) but the box you check off when you get your driver's license is "white"

I should have figured it would have gone right over your shiny head.
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Re: FDR Statue and Monument should be taken down due to treatment of Italians
« Reply #41 on: June 23, 2020, 04:20:30 PM »
Quote from: Kwon on June 23, 2020, 07:05:55 AM
Thank you Griffith, Conqueror of Casca!


If good maps existed in Mr.Bjorn Ironside (golden era of vikings) , Rome would be Vikings city  :D

Bjoern , by mistake ( :-\) destroyed Pizza !.

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Re: As monuments in USA are being toppled
« Reply #42 on: June 23, 2020, 04:21:42 PM »
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Re: FDR Statue and Monument should be taken down due to treatment of Italians
« Reply #43 on: June 23, 2020, 04:47:44 PM »
Quote from: Hypertrophy on June 23, 2020, 04:15:04 PM
I should have figured it would have gone right over your shiny head.

bro- I did that thing where I read three words and then just commented...I do that a lot actually


life is funner that way
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Re: As monuments in USA are being toppled
« Reply #44 on: June 23, 2020, 07:31:59 PM »
Quote from: Earl1972 on June 23, 2020, 04:21:42 PM


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Kwon

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Re: As monuments in USA are being toppled
« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2020, 07:45:12 PM »
PLANET OF PAVEMENT APES

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Re: As monuments in USA are being toppled
« Reply #46 on: June 23, 2020, 09:09:14 PM »
The media invokes mob rule by inflating opinion to some sort of actionable hysteria. It is not the same as free speech.
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Re: FDR Statue and Monument should be taken down due to treatment of Italians
« Reply #47 on: June 24, 2020, 06:45:55 AM »
Quote from: Teutonic Knight 1 on June 23, 2020, 04:20:30 PM

If good maps existed in Mr.Bjorn Ironside (golden era of vikings) , Rome would be Vikings city  :D

Bjoern , by mistake ( :-\) destroyed Pizza !.

The Normans were descendants of Vikings, they didn't have Rome but they created the Kingdom of Southern Italy so there is some truth in that!
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Re: As monuments in USA are being toppled
« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2020, 08:57:04 AM »
Toppling Confederate statues suggests that the North(Union) was actually some sort of advocate for black people. Abraham Lincoln did not even want to end slavery, his proposal was to continue slavery where it already existed, but only prohibit it in westward expansion states. Ending slavery was purely economic and political, and had to do with removing the oligarch type plantation owners of the South and their monopolies, and preparing for the industrial Revolution, with a society based on ingenuity and invention, as in New York during the late 1800's(electricity, modern railway, shipping and trade, steel,stock market,etc) Ending slavery was to bring about this shift from agricultural monopolies to the technological society we have today. Had NOTHING to do with civil rights.

VERY few at the time gave a shit about black lives mattering, from the North or South.
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Re: Theodore Roosevelt Statue To Be Removed From New York Museum Entrance
« Reply #49 on: June 24, 2020, 12:52:34 PM »
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