Social Media - Right Wing Purge of different viewpoints

[Ron]

It is funny to see Facebook and Twitter try to delete or 'suspend' right wing discussion because they do not conform to their standards.  But since it is their business, they can choose what they want to be.  I am surprised that you thought that Facebook or Twitter is actually 'free' speech.  It is not, it is their business.

Just like any place, someone can choose what they want.

Here, I like free speech, but to a point.  The N word is not allowed, as is many other derogatory names, because you don't need it to debate or discuss. Same with attacking an entire race or religion or country, because it is usually the 5 or 10% who are like that.  I also hate personal attacks of people who cannot defend themselves, and esepcially ones that bring up family or work.  Also, exciting violence is also not welcome, and we know the difference.

But when someone gets really offended that the President says 'If the looting starts, the shooting starts', wow. It is a saying, and can be discussed.  Saying 'I am going to blow up a building' is stupid, just like saying 'Fire' in a crowded theater.  Discussion and debate is different, but silencing the left or the right is sad. 

I like debates, discussion, viewpoints on both sides, and you can debate it, but when someone clicks 'Report to Moderator', we take a look at it.  As I have said quite a few times, we all know the difference of inciting vs debates.

Do I agree with Facebook or Twitter - absolutely not.  You have to give both sides their arguements, and you can CHOOSE not to follow someone on both.  That is the beauty of the sites.  And guess what, if you don't like debates, discussion here, then don't come here! You have a CHOICE! Just like I have a choice to, when someone thinks something has gone too far, to evaluate it.

[Kwon]

You are right Ronfather.




I pray you will have a long life.

[Ron]

You are right Ronfather.

I pray you will have a long life.

So do I....    it is funny, that when I was younger, debates of many views was cool, now, you even try to debate, for some people, they get really angry, you don't understand, you are racist, or you are ignorant.  Funny...   seems that some people seem to think they know you, when in reality, they don't really care to understand or try to debate.  People can argue over many issues, have different viewpoints, but you need to be civil and make points, not yell, scream, and unfriend someone like people are doing now.

[Kwon]

So do I....    it is funny, that when I was younger, debates of many views was cool, now, you even try to debate, for some people, they get really angry, you don't understand, you are racist, or you are ignorant.  Funny...   seems that some people seem to think they know you, when in reality, they don't really care to understand or try to debate.  People can argue over many issues, have different viewpoints, but you need to be civil and make points, not yell, scream, and unfriend someone like people are doing now.

And as you may very well have noted, i do not use the N-word anymore, out of respect to you Oh Great One.





































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[Kwon]

So do I....    it is funny, that when I was younger, debates of many views was cool, now, you even try to debate, for some people, they get really angry, you don't understand, you are racist, or you are ignorant.  Funny...   seems that some people seem to think they know you, when in reality, they don't really care to understand or try to debate.  People can argue over many issues, have different viewpoints, but you need to be civil and make points, not yell, scream, and unfriend someone like people are doing now.

Things were much better regarding this in the 70s and 80s.

People are crazy now.

[Methyl m1ke]

If Republicans/Conservatives don't like FB, Twitter, or Instragram, etc, banning speech, they are more than welcome to create their own social media platform. Anyone can start their own business in America and try to put out the competition. This is what drives production.

I utterly despise the banning of free speech, which is why I stopped using FB over 5 years ago. Zero social media, except for getbig.

Shit or get off the pot.

What you?!?!?!

Right there with you dude. I get news from getbig i socialize a little here i come here to learn and be entertained. Im a big advocate for mostly free speech. There has to be limits or the site will becone a target for pedos and radicals and what not.

[Primemuscle]

I saw that scumbag suckerberg has announced more censorship on his website, like he's some hero...

The guy is a fucking parasite.

He's not alone. It's happening all over social media.

"Reddit’s C.E.O. on Why He Banned ‘The_Donald’ Subreddit" https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/30/us/politics/reddit-bans-steve-huffman.html

The Twitter, Youtube and Facebook challenge

“The most obvious thing I would say about this order is that it’s not enforceable — it’s kind of a piece of political theater,” Kate Klonick, a professor of internet law at St. John’s University told Recode

The dispute erupted after Twitter on Tuesday for the first time tagged Trump’s tweets about unsubstantiated claims of fraud in mail-in voting with a warning prompting readers to fact check the posts.

Separately, a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington on Wednesday upheld the dismissal of a lawsuit by a conservative group and right-wing YouTube personality against Google, Facebook, Twitter and Apple accusing them of conspiring to suppress conservative political views.

The First Amendment protects individuals from government censorship. Social media platforms are private companies, and can censor what people post on their websites as they see fit. But given their growing role in public discourse, it’s important to ask ourselves–what exactly are their censorship policies? How do they compare to each other, and to the First Amendment’s protections?

[Primemuscle]

I’ve been kicked off of Twitter three times and I’m a nobody. I switched to Parler


The left has been basically committing election interference since the day Trump was inaugurated. I’m not one for the feds to come in and regulate social media....but it’s now turned into news and publishing platforms. All of those useless libs up in Silicon Valley needs to have their asses kicked. They know like everyone else the left can’t win unless they cheat their way in

Wow. Kicked off Twitter 3 times! Really? I thought you were pretty harmless. Just a bit misguided at times. Seems harsh on Twitter's part. I think Matt Canning has had problems with both Youtube and Facebook. On the other hand, apparently nobody takes me seriously because I have never been kicked off any website except of a 1 day ban for posting artistic nudes in the wrong forum on Getbig. 

[harmankardon1]

I mean, I have no ready answer as there are only a few social media companies that really dominate tech. So, in a sense, if you really want to be part of social media, you just have to suck it up and abide by their rules or be banned. Republicans are all about freedom but want the government to regulate private companies that don't fit their agenda. Seems rather hypocritical.

I utterly despise Zuckerberg, so I am glad I got rid of FB. Best thing I ever did.

I agree with your point that regulation of these companies/media can be interpreted as hypocritical...

I think there has to be some form of control when it comes to the fear mongering and Insighting of violence we have seen, this has gone to new dangerous levels in the leftist media and something must be done to control them, to at least the degree that they can be held accountable for violence and crimes they are supporting

 there must also be some accountability for fake news they produce that directly affects people's lives eg the couple in the castle, fake news makes up a story they came out armed and confronted peaceful protestors? Total fabrication and lies.... now the demtard prosecutor is talking about going after them... A disgrace

[Capt. SaveAHO]

Wow. Kicked off Twitter 3 times! Really? I thought you were pretty harmless. Just a bit misguided at times. Seems harsh on Twitter's part. I think Matt Canning has had problems with both Youtube and Facebook. On the other hand, apparently nobody takes me seriously because I have never been kicked off any website except of a 1 day ban for posting artistic nudes in the wrong forum on Getbig. 

No shit

[SF1900]

I agree with your point that regulation of these companies/media can be interpreted as hypocritical...

I think there has to be some form of control when it comes to the fear mongering and Insighting of violence we have seen, this has gone to new dangerous levels in the leftist media and something must be done to control them, to at least the degree that they can be held accountable for violence and crimes they are supporting

 there must also be some accountability for fake news they produce that directly affects people's lives eg the couple in the castle, fake news makes up a story they came out armed and confronted peaceful protestors? Total fabrication and lies.... now the demtard prosecutor is talking about going after them... A disgrace

When the Left try to shut down hate speech or speech that incites violence, the Right always says: Who gets to determine what constitutes hate speech and who gets to determine what constitutes an incitement of violence?  Similarly, who gets to determine what constitutes fear mongering or an incitement of violence? What one considers hate speech, another may not. What one considers fear mongering, another may not.

[SF1900]

I meant if phone companies could look into people's morals or hear their calls and then ban them from Sprint, T-Mobile, etc.... if they didn't like their opinions. That is exactly what social media is doing. They are banning people for things they say outside the platform. Certain groups have called Paypal and Wells Fargo banks and told them about things the bank's customers have said on Youtube and, as a direct result, the banks closed their own customer's accounts. They have to find a different bank. What if restaurants and grocery stores started doing this?

One thing is that foreign countries like China and Russia have burgeoning social media for Americans and ironically Americans may have freer speech on foreign platforms. There are positive things on the horizon in the US as far as alternative ways to have speech heard but I'll leave it at that for now. And we can't forget freedom of expression on Getbig!

I see your point, but there is an obvious difference between FB banning you for posting that violates their terms on their website, as opposed to being banned from the grocery store or restaurant for something you said while not in their stores. Even then, a restaurant or grocery store can refuse you service if you violate their rules or standards while in the store.

Again, I really don't have an answer for this dilemma. However, I do not think the answer is government intervention. Whenever government intervenes, they tend to make things worse. So, yeah, I guess we are stuck with the way things are.

[Body-Buildah]

the left can just talk to themselves, brainwash themselves, suffer from tds all on their lonesome (they use it to recruit others with their nonsensical madness)
billions of smart people dont use twitter and fb, they know its nonsense / fake news

[Primemuscle]

No shit

No shit. 

[Primemuscle]

the left can just talk to themselves, brainwash themselves, suffer from tds all on their lonesome (they use it to recruit others with their nonsensical madness)
billions of smart people dont use twitter and fb, they know its nonsense / fake news

So Twitter is fake news. Who knew? Wonder why Trump posts on Twitter several times a day. Is what he says also fake news in your opinion?

Maybe Trump should start a social media website. He hosted and starred in his own reality television show. Hosting a social media website should be a breeze for him.

[johnnynoname]

fucking boomers

[Teutonic Knight 1]

Last week realistic illustration of police officer execution (in ISIS style ) was posted on Facebook & that was okay by F. "community standard". 

[Megalodon]

Is that her?

https://advising.college.harvard.edu/people/claira-janover

This is her now:

https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1278487434544549888

and

https://twitter.com/RealSaleemJuma/status/1278490915946917888



here she is punished by being knelt on like George Floyd:

https://twitter.com/EnzoCalibro/status/1278510324367241217

[Skeletor]

This is her now:

https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1278487434544549888

and

https://twitter.com/RealSaleemJuma/status/1278490915946917888



here she is punished by being knelt on like George Floyd:

https://twitter.com/EnzoCalibro/status/1278510324367241217

[Kwon]

This is her now:

https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1278487434544549888

and

https://twitter.com/RealSaleemJuma/status/1278490915946917888



here she is punished by being knelt on like George Floyd:

https://twitter.com/EnzoCalibro/status/1278510324367241217

KARMA!!!

[Skeletor]

As expected, there are several gofundme campaigns for her portraying her as a victim. Will gofundme shut them down for supporting someone who threatened violence?

[nzgs]

It is funny to see Facebook and Twitter try to delete or 'suspend' right wing discussion because they do not conform to their standards.  But since it is their business, they can choose what they want to be.  I am surprised that you thought that Facebook or Twitter is actually 'free' speech.  It is not, it is their business.

Just like any place, someone can choose what they want.

Here, I like free speech, but to a point.  The N word is not allowed, as is many other derogatory names, because you don't need it to debate or discuss. Same with attacking an entire race or religion or country, because it is usually the 5 or 10% who are like that.  I also hate personal attacks of people who cannot defend themselves, and esepcially ones that bring up family or work.  Also, exciting violence is also not welcome, and we know the difference.

But when someone gets really offended that the President says 'If the looting starts, the shooting starts', wow. It is a saying, and can be discussed.  Saying 'I am going to blow up a building' is stupid, just like saying 'Fire' in a crowded theater.  Discussion and debate is different, but silencing the left or the right is sad. 

I like debates, discussion, viewpoints on both sides, and you can debate it, but when someone clicks 'Report to Moderator', we take a look at it.  As I have said quite a few times, we all know the difference of inciting vs debates.

Do I agree with Facebook or Twitter - absolutely not.  You have to give both sides their arguements, and you can CHOOSE not to follow someone on both.  That is the beauty of the sites.  And guess what, if you don't like debates, discussion here, then don't come here! You have a CHOICE! Just like I have a choice to, when someone thinks something has gone too far, to evaluate it.

It is not "their business" because they enjoy special legal privileges and are deeply embedded in government and banking. Alternative competitors to these platforms do not get to enjoy the same legal privileges and often have their funding pathways attacked. I wish people would stop pretending that Google and Twitter are small private businesses, they are extensions of a global one world government with communist aspirations; they want people to own nothing, and be entirely dependent on a centralised social credit system much like China's.

[Primemuscle]

It is not "their business" because they enjoy special legal privileges and are deeply embedded in government and banking. Alternative competitors to these platforms do not get to enjoy the same legal privileges and often have their funding pathways attacked. I wish people would stop pretending that Google and Twitter are small private businesses, they are extensions of a global one world government with communist aspirations; they want people to own nothing, and be entirely dependent on a centralised social credit system much like China's.

I take it that you don't use Google or Twitter.

[Hypertrophy]

I take it that you don't use Google or Twitter.

Sounds like he knows exactly what Google and Twitter are all about.

[Primemuscle]

Sounds like he knows exactly what Google and Twitter are all about.

I know I am deaf even with the hearing-aids in, but I can't hear his sounds and the PC speakers are turned on.