Straight from a Philly Cop - Morale is low - Disdain for the Chief

[Agnostic007]

on a side note, as a retired cop, I personally hesitate taking any cops opinion as the opinion of most cops. There are some really oddball cops out there and sometimes they make me cringe when they give their opinion and the public runs with it as if he represents all cops.  Thats in general. This Philly cop may very well have the pulse of the department. I am hearing similar issues with the Austin PD and their frustration with a very liberal city council.  But I have had many disagreements with the Police Association President over his views on several issues and he gets constant reminders to be wary of trying to take political sides in the name of the officers.

[Mr Anabolic]

on a side note, as a retired cop, I personally hesitate taking any cops opinion as the opinion of most cops. There are some really oddball cops out there and sometimes they make me cringe when they give their opinion and the public runs with it as if he represents all cops.  Thats in general. This Philly cop may very well have the pulse of the department. I am hearing similar issues with the Austin PD and their frustration with a very liberal city council.  But I have had many disagreements with the Police Association President over his views on several issues and he gets constant reminders to be wary of trying to take political sides in the name of the officers.

My cop friend from the gym has no reason to lie to me.  I've known him for years.
 
I still haven't heard any police car sirens or seen cops rushing to answer a call over the past 6 days... NOT ONE. 

[Kwon]

My cop friend from the gym has no reason to lie to me.  I've known him for years.
 
I still haven't heard any police car sirens or seen cops rushing to answer a call over the past 6 days... NOT ONE.

Poor Citizens!

Crime must be rampant now!

[illuminati]

I would add that he is also comparing apples to oranges. The average citizen while under a moral obligation (certainly philosophically debatable) to act in a particular way that doesn't break the law (Not coming forward as a witness to a crime is not against the law unless special circumstances ) Cops have sworn an oath and are paid to have the citizens best interest at heart. Not coming forward when illegal or inappropriate is observed is likely certainly against one or several department policies and erodes the trust of the community.


Having said that, I do strongly believe that black leaders of the nation and of their communities need to start calling out people for not stepping forward and helping to rid their neighborhoods of the blight some of their fellow neighbors bring.

Yes - Both Black leaders & Police should be calling out those who do not step forwards
Police probably more so as they are being paid & have taken an oath & by not stepping forwards
They are breaking their oath & taking monies under false pretences.

Black communities & Police are suffering very badly with very low public support or care
because of this remaining silent business.

[Dave D]

on a side note, as a retired cop, I personally hesitate taking any cops opinion as the opinion of most cops. There are some really oddball cops out there and sometimes they make me cringe when they give their opinion and the public runs with it as if he represents all cops.  Thats in general. This Philly cop may very well have the pulse of the department. I am hearing similar issues with the Austin PD and their frustration with a very liberal city council.  But I have had many disagreements with the Police Association President over his views on several issues and he gets constant reminders to be wary of trying to take political sides in the name of the officers.

All due respect when I say this but we could say the same thing about taking a retired cops opinion on another cops opinion especially when the retired cop never worked or has any connections in the other cops department.

And what we really should be questioning is your opinion of “oddball” cops. That makes it sound like there are some real BAD cops, that are well known in the department, which is why this whole ordeal started. over

[Tapeworm]

All due respect when I say this but we could say the same thing about taking a retired cops opinion on another cops opinion especially when the retired cop never worked or has any connections in the other cops department.

And what we really should be questioning is your opinion of “oddball” cops. That makes it sound like there are some real BAD cops, that are well known in the department, which is why this whole ordeal started. over

Hearing you 5 by 5. Too much jumpy juice for the town clowns. What's your 20? Over.

[OlympiaGym]

The bosses keep everyone in line even with all the shit going on. They want to keep their steady tours, keep getting promoted and not get shitcanned. You can only get away with so much. Despite what you hear there are still numbers to hit.

[Agnostic007]

All due respect when I say this but we could say the same thing about taking a retired cops opinion on another cops opinion especially when the retired cop never worked or has any connections in the other cops department.

And what we really should be questioning is your opinion of “oddball” cops. That makes it sound like there are some real BAD cops, that are well known in the department, which is why this whole ordeal started. over

I don't disagree with you Dave. When I was typing out that post I realized my view carried no more weight than the gym buddy cop. Just my observation.

As far as the oddball reference, I had in mind cops with odd opinions or views, not necessarily illegal or unauthorized.