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Racism and White Privilege - Debunked
« on: July 04, 2020, 12:20:00 PM »
I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.
I can avoid spending time with people whom I was trained to mistrust and who have learned to mistrust my kind or me.
If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.
I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.
I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.
I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.
When I am told about our national heritage or about "civilization," I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.
I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.
If I want to, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for this piece on white privilege.
I can be pretty sure of having my voice heard in a group in which I am the only member of my race.
I can be casual about whether or not to listen to another person's voice in a group in which s/he is the only member of his/her race.
I can go into a music shop and count on finding the music of my race represented, into a supermarket and find the staple foods which fit with my cultural traditions, into a hairdresser's shop and find someone who can cut my hair.
Whether I use checks, credit cards or cash, I can count on my skin color not to work against the appearance of financial reliability.
I can arrange to protect my children most of the time from people who might not like them.
I do not have to educate my children to be aware of systemic racism for their own daily physical protection.
I can be pretty sure that my children's teachers and employers will tolerate them if they fit school and workplace norms; my chief worries about them do not concern others' attitudes toward their race.
I can talk with my mouth full and not have people put this down to my color.
I can swear, or dress in second hand clothes, or not answer letters, without having people attribute these choices to the bad morals, the poverty or the illiteracy of my race.
I can speak in public to a powerful male group without putting my race on trial.
I can do well in a challenging situation without being called a credit to my race.
I am never asked to speak for all the people of my racial group.
I can remain oblivious of the language and customs of persons of color who constitute the world's majority without feeling in my culture any penalty for such oblivion.
I can criticize our government and talk about how much I fear its policies and behavior without being seen as a cultural outsider.
I can be pretty sure that if I ask to talk to the "person in charge", I will be facing a person of my race.
If a traffic cop pulls me over or if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I haven't been singled out because of my race.
I can easily buy posters, post-cards, picture books, greeting cards, dolls, toys and children's magazines featuring people of my race.
I can go home from most meetings of organizations I belong to feeling somewhat tied in, rather than isolated, out-of-place, outnumbered, unheard, held at a distance or feared.
I can be pretty sure that an argument with a colleague of another race is more likely to jeopardize her/his chances for advancement than to jeopardize mine.
I can be pretty sure that if I argue for the promotion of a person of another race, or a program centering on race, this is not likely to cost me heavily within my present setting, even if my colleagues disagree with me.
If I declare there is a racial issue at hand, or there isn't a racial issue at hand, my race will lend me more credibility for either position than a person of color will have.
I can choose to ignore developments in minority writing and minority activist programs, or disparage them, or learn from them, but in any case, I can find ways to be more or less protected from negative consequences of any of these choices.
My culture gives me little fear about ignoring the perspectives and powers of people of other races.
I am not made acutely aware that my shape, bearing or body odor will be taken as a reflection on my race.
I can worry about racism without being seen as self-interested or self-seeking.
I can take a job with an affirmative action employer without having my co-workers on the job suspect that I got it because of my race.
If my day, week or year is going badly, I need not ask of each negative episode or situation whether it had racial overtones.
I can be pretty sure of finding people who would be willing to talk with me and advise me about my next steps, professionally.
I can think over many options, social, political, imaginative or professional, without asking whether a person of my race would be accepted or allowed to do what I want to do.
I can be late to a meeting without having the lateness reflect on my race.
I can choose public accommodation without fearing that people of my race cannot get in or will be mistreated in the places I have chosen.
I can be sure that if I need legal or medical help, my race will not work against me.
I can arrange my activities so that I will never have to experience feelings of rejection owing to my race.
If I have low credibility as a leader I can be sure that my race is not the problem.
I can easily find academic courses and institutions which give attention only to people of my race.
I can expect figurative language and imagery in all of the arts to testify to experiences of my race.
I can chose blemish cover or bandages in "flesh" color and have them more or less match my skin.
I can travel alone or with my spouse without expecting embarrassment or hostility in those who deal with us.
I have no difficulty finding neighborhoods where people approve of our household.
My children are given texts and classes which implicitly support our kind of family unit and do not turn them against my choice of domestic partnership.
I will feel welcomed and "normal" in the usual walks of public life, institutional and social.


Great, thats the list of 50 things that anyone living in a society that is mostly made up of their own race

Its nothing to do with race, its culture, a black man in Africa has the same privilege as a white person in a predominantly white society.
If you are white and go to Japan none of the above apply to you, they all apply to the Japanese.

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Re: White Privilege - Debunked
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2020, 01:15:27 PM »
Here is a White person privileged with a BLM dog walking service:

https://twitter.com/AltPost/status/1279505594936897537

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Re: White Privilege - Debunked
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2020, 05:44:36 PM »
joswift,

Your commentary following the poor-me piece exactly matches my thinking as I read through it.

Western nations are WHITE creations. They’re OUR countries.

As well, the factually failed black demographic of the West is overwhelmingly on them. For more than a century it has done VERY little to earn a general respect.

Quite the opposite.

If you are a person of colour and you hate your existence so much in a white land, pack your shit and fuck off. I mean, it’s not like we really want you here, anyway (see above).

From a humane vantage point, black lives mostly don’t matter to other blacks.

You’re self-loathing, lazy, brainwashed professional victims, with sub-standard intelligence, a propensity to behave poorly, have piss poor impulse control, and frequently react with primal physicality.

Fuck BLM. And fuck you.




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Re: White Privilege - Debunked
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2020, 05:56:30 PM »
TL/DR.

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Re: White Privilege - Debunked
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2020, 07:21:26 PM »
If I want to, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for this piece on white privilege.

LMAO!!!!

Right.  Yeah, because it's soooo hard for anyone of any race to advocate for positions bashing White people.  Delusional moron.  I'll have to see if the bitch who wrote this is dead.  Penny something, write?

Great post.  Thank you for sharing.

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Re: White Privilege - Debunked
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2020, 07:30:13 PM »
Here is a White person privileged with a BLM dog walking service:

https://twitter.com/AltPost/status/1279505594936897537

I knew I was in for a laugh.  I just knew it.  ;D

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Re: White Privilege - Debunked
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2020, 10:58:14 PM »
This is on the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry web site

https://www.aacap.org/App_Themes/AACAP/docs/resources_for_primary_care/diversity_and_cultural_competency_curriculum/goal_2_modules_i_may_have_privilege_if.pdf



But it originally came from Peggy McIntosh, called  White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack

https://www.racialequitytools.org/resourcefiles/mcintosh.pdf

Peggy McIntosh is associate director of the Wellesley Collage Center for Research on Women. This essay is excerpted from Working
Paper 189. "White Privilege and Male Privilege: A Personal Account of Coming To See Correspondences through Work in Women's
Studies" (1988), by Peggy McIntosh;




This was Peggy's opinion on it, which is her right, and like it was in 1988, there are certain truths to it, and a lot of debate and discussion.  Remember, this is one part of a 200 page report.

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Re: White Privilege - Debunked
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2020, 01:32:04 AM »
This is on the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry web site

https://www.aacap.org/App_Themes/AACAP/docs/resources_for_primary_care/diversity_and_cultural_competency_curriculum/goal_2_modules_i_may_have_privilege_if.pdf



But it originally came from Peggy McIntosh, called  White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack

https://www.racialequitytools.org/resourcefiles/mcintosh.pdf

Peggy McIntosh is associate director of the Wellesley Collage Center for Research on Women. This essay is excerpted from Working
Paper 189. "White Privilege and Male Privilege: A Personal Account of Coming To See Correspondences through Work in Women's
Studies" (1988), by Peggy McIntosh;




This was Peggy's opinion on it, which is her right, and like it was in 1988, there are certain truths to it, and a lot of debate and discussion.  Remember, this is one part of a 200 page report.

I don't deny that it's true, Ron.  I'm not certain that anyone would...but it may be more aptly-named "Majority Privilege".

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Re: White Privilege - Debunked
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2020, 02:02:12 AM »
most of those privileges are about wealth

And the author certainly knows all about that

https://quillette.com/2018/08/29/unpacking-peggy-mcintoshs-knapsack/
Peggy McIntosh was born Elisabeth Vance Means in 1934. She grew up in Summit, New Jersey where the median income is quadruple the American national average—that is to say that half the incomes there are more than four times the national average, some of them substantially so. McIntosh’s father was Winthrop J. Means, the head of Bell Laboratories electronic switching department during the late 1950s. At that time, Bell Labs were the world leaders in the nascent digital computing revolution. Means personally held—and sold patents on—many very lucrative technologies, including early magnetic Gyro-compass equipment (U.S. Patent #US2615961A) which now helps to guide nuclear missiles and commercial jets, and which keeps satellites in place so you can navigate with your phone and communicate with your Uber driver. Means is also recorded as the inventor of a patent held by Nokia Bell in 1959 known as the Information Storage Arrangement. This device is the direct progenitor of ROM computer memory, and is cited in the latter’s patent filed in 1965 for IBM. So, long before Peggy McIntosh wrote her paper, her family was already having an outsized effect on Western culture.

Elizabeth Vance Means then attended Radcliffe, a renowned finishing school for the daughters of America’s patrician elites, and continued her private education at the University of London (ranked in the top 50 by the Times Higher Education World University Rankings), before completing her English Doctorate at Harvard. Her engagement to Dr. Kenneth McIntosh was announced in the New York Times‘s social register on the same page as the wedding of Chicago’s Mayor Daley. McIntosh’s father, Dr. Rustin McIntosh, was Professor Emeritus of Pediatrics at Columbia University. His mother was President Emeritus of Barnard College, an institution in the opulent Morningside Heights district of Manhattan, famous since 1889 for providing the daughters of the wealthiest Americans with liberal arts degrees. This was once the stomping ground of American cultural luminaries like F. Scott Fitzgerald, Cecil B. DeMille, and several Supreme Court Justices. Kenneth McIntosh was himself a graduate of the Phillips Exeter Academy, which boasted alumni including Daniel Webster, the sons of Presidents Lincoln and Grant, and a number of Rockefeller scions. He later completed his elite education at Harvard College and the Harvard Medical School. By the time of his marriage to Elizabeth, Kenneth McIntosh was a senior resident at the prestigious Brigham Hospital in Boston, founded by millionaire Peter Bent.

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Re: White Privilege - Debunked
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2020, 03:32:28 AM »
Out of decency, good people are frowning on the use of the violence-promoting term "White Privilege".


https://twitter.com/HeritageAmeric6/status/1279579192737165312


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Re: White Privilege - Debunked
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2020, 07:56:02 AM »
Dindu's realize that a race war would mean their extinction in the U.S within a 5 year time period, right?  It's almost like they don't realize they are outnumbered 5 to 1 and that he majority of weapons and wealth are in whites possession as well. 

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Re: White Privilege - Debunked
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2020, 09:16:35 AM »
collecting welfare for 8 kids from 4 absent men and never working, now thats a privilege!

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Re: White Privilege - Debunked
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2020, 09:19:54 AM »
whites arent stigmatized like negroes due to 13/50

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Re: White Privilege - Debunked
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2020, 02:56:41 PM »
White privilege is working like a dog so the government can take tax money out of the pay checks to give to those that contribute nothing to society. 

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Re: White Privilege - Debunked
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2020, 07:16:15 PM »
Out of decency, good people are frowning on the use of the violence-promoting term "White Privilege".


https://twitter.com/HeritageAmeric6/status/1279579192737165312



this would be all over cnn and social media if it was the other way around

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Re: White Privilege - Debunked
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2020, 07:25:41 PM »
most of those privileges are about wealth

And the author certainly knows all about that

https://quillette.com/2018/08/29/unpacking-peggy-mcintoshs-knapsack/
Peggy McIntosh was born Elisabeth Vance Means in 1934. She grew up in Summit, New Jersey where the median income is quadruple the American national average—that is to say that half the incomes there are more than four times the national average, some of them substantially so. McIntosh’s father was Winthrop J. Means, the head of Bell Laboratories electronic switching department during the late 1950s. At that time, Bell Labs were the world leaders in the nascent digital computing revolution. Means personally held—and sold patents on—many very lucrative technologies, including early magnetic Gyro-compass equipment (U.S. Patent #US2615961A) which now helps to guide nuclear missiles and commercial jets, and which keeps satellites in place so you can navigate with your phone and communicate with your Uber driver. Means is also recorded as the inventor of a patent held by Nokia Bell in 1959 known as the Information Storage Arrangement. This device is the direct progenitor of ROM computer memory, and is cited in the latter’s patent filed in 1965 for IBM. So, long before Peggy McIntosh wrote her paper, her family was already having an outsized effect on Western culture.

Elizabeth Vance Means then attended Radcliffe, a renowned finishing school for the daughters of America’s patrician elites, and continued her private education at the University of London (ranked in the top 50 by the Times Higher Education World University Rankings), before completing her English Doctorate at Harvard. Her engagement to Dr. Kenneth McIntosh was announced in the New York Times‘s social register on the same page as the wedding of Chicago’s Mayor Daley. McIntosh’s father, Dr. Rustin McIntosh, was Professor Emeritus of Pediatrics at Columbia University. His mother was President Emeritus of Barnard College, an institution in the opulent Morningside Heights district of Manhattan, famous since 1889 for providing the daughters of the wealthiest Americans with liberal arts degrees. This was once the stomping ground of American cultural luminaries like F. Scott Fitzgerald, Cecil B. DeMille, and several Supreme Court Justices. Kenneth McIntosh was himself a graduate of the Phillips Exeter Academy, which boasted alumni including Daniel Webster, the sons of Presidents Lincoln and Grant, and a number of Rockefeller scions. He later completed his elite education at Harvard College and the Harvard Medical School. By the time of his marriage to Elizabeth, Kenneth McIntosh was a senior resident at the prestigious Brigham Hospital in Boston, founded by millionaire Peter Bent.

Wealth absolutely affords people privileges that others don't have. But they pay for those privileges whether it is with an inheritance (birthright) or it is from their high income which probably required an education or exceptional luck. 

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Debunking Systemic Racism
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2020, 12:56:38 PM »

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Re: Debunking Systemic Racism
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2020, 01:08:04 PM »
ewww....it's a "Thomas Sowell Is /OurGuy" episode of "Boomer"


just fucking ewww

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Re: Debunking Systemic Racism
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2020, 01:08:45 PM »
literally yuck and so 2 years ago

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Re: White Privilege - Debunked
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2020, 02:01:31 PM »
most whites i know grew up with nothing, parents came from the projects, got by on nothing but hard work and raising good families.
something dindus know nothing about ^^

I know no, rich or privileged whites
only hard workers

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Re: White Privilege - Debunked
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2020, 02:18:31 PM »
most whites i know grew up with nothing, parents came from the projects, got by on nothing but hard work and raising good families.
something dindus know nothing about ^^

I know no, rich or privileged whites
only hard workers

Maybe it's time you step out of your comfort zone. Many of the people you describe are 'salt of the earth'. Their opportunities are often limited no matter how hard they are willing to work. Expose yourself to the rest of the world, a leg up from someone who has made it financially can be invaluable.

Don't get me wrong there is nothing wrong with staying in your comfort zone. But if you aspire to  something more don't let your friends and family hold you back.

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Re: White Privilege - Debunked
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2020, 04:57:28 PM »
this would be all over cnn and social media if it was the other way around

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TMZ covered it possibly because the victim's a dancer and they assume him homosexual. TMZ otherwise NEVER covers non-celebrity black on white crime.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/07/06/man-sucker-punches-12-year-old-charged-felony-assault/

The violent criminal:


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Re: White Privilege - Debunked
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2020, 05:54:24 PM »
White privilege is working like a dog so the government can take tax money out of the pay checks to give to those that contribute nothing to society.

Truth.

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Re: White Privilege - Debunked
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2020, 06:43:46 PM »
White privilege is working like a dog so the government can take tax money out of the pay checks to give to those that contribute nothing to society.
dam u said it without being racists
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Re: Debunking Systemic Racism
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2020, 04:22:03 AM »
will this guy hurt some feelings of the retards with their hands out expecting everything for free?
are dindus expected to go out and work for a living, be good people, stop the violence?
will LaTisha forfeit her monthly welfare check and go get a job at the 'big, fat and ugly" store designed for all chocolate woman?
are they expected to take an english 101 class and learn how to speak w/out hooting and hollering?