Is it worth being ripped but look normal in a shirt?

[Legendary Physique]

To diet/work out like a madman and be ripped but appear normal or even small in a dress shirt and tie or a sweater, but when the shirt comes off and the stunning combo of the eight pack, serrati, intercostals and obliques just pop in bitches' faces and bitches willingly become a sex partner for life. That's 10% or less bodyfat. Problem is when fully clothed nobody knows. OR shoot up to 14 or 15% and have huge chest/back/shoulders/arms plus massive quads. Abs are just about visible. In a short sleeve shirt, other males get intimidated, women flock and touch the arms. Again, they become easy booty calls, but they don't hold exactly the same  sex fascination for 14/15% as they do for 10% or less.

[Humble Narcissist]

No, it isn't.  Why starve yourself to look small?  Even if a woman sees you ripped you will not have a sex partner for life, or maybe even that night.

[Army of One]

Something not talked about here but happening more and more is anything larger than around a 15/16 arm looking low class, try hard and played out.Now everyone trains its no longer a big thing, but as its always been, face is king, and a face at 10% looks way better than a face at 15%.

[IroNat]

When you look like frank zane it don't matter.

[Henda]

No, personal experience suggests would have a far easier being bigger, at 6’1” I look like a fucking twink pretty sharpish dropping weight. As long as Arm veins visible and stomach doesent protrude then fuck being any leaner

[SF1900]

I would assume this is what most woman are attracted to in terms of physicality.

[Army of One]

No, personal experience suggests would have a far easier being bigger, at 6’1” I look like a fucking twink pretty sharpish dropping weight. As long as Arm veins visible and stomach doesent protrude then fuck being any leaner

Only thing you gain being bigger is compliments from men.

[Army of One]

I would assume this is what most woman are attracted to in terms of physicality.

Exactly.The loss of "dominance" you feel around other men, will more than be made up for the better treatment because your face is more aesthetic.

[IroNat]

Fixed...

I would assume this is what most woman gay men are attracted to in terms of physicality.

This is what most women are attracted to:

[Army of One]

Fixed...

Dont listen to what women say, watch what they do.They arnt paying 50 dollars for tickets to see 15% bodyfat men at 230, they pay to see 180 pound chippendales at 8-10%.Same deal with drunk women in clubs.

[Mr Anabolic]

NO. 

Who cares what women think (or anyone else for that matter).  As long as I'm stronger than the average male and able to fend off an attacker... especially considering what's going on these days.

[Army of One]

NO. 

Who cares what women think (or anyone else for that matter).  As long as I'm stronger than the average male and able to fend off an attacker... especially considering what's going on these days.

If thats your only reason for lifting then youd be 200x better off boxing, kickboxing, mma etc.A 140 pound pro boxer could kill you no matter what your weight.

[Henda]

Only thing you gain being bigger is compliments from men.

Haha it does garner attention from blokes as well like, I can only go off personal experience and I’m not saying my experience speaks for all, I struggled to gain mass till I was in 30s having always had physical job,I’m not exactly big now the couple of times a year I go out on the drink now I’d have a far easier time If I was single than at any other point in my life when thinner and leaner

[Humble Narcissist]

Dont listen to what women say, watch what they do.They arnt paying 50 dollars for tickets to see 15% bodyfat men at 230, they pay to see 180 pound chippendales at 8-10%.Same deal with drunk women in clubs.

Exactly and look at the guys who pull the most quality tail.  It isn't some 5'7 inch guy who weighs 280.

[Hypertrophy]

Something not talked about here but happening more and more is anything larger than around a 15/16 arm looking low class, try hard and played out.Now everyone trains its no longer a big thing, but as its always been, face is king, and a face at 10% looks way better than a face at 15%.

This. No women gives a shit if your arms are much bigger than 16" or your chest is past 44 or so. They often consider you a muscle head past that.

A lean face and midsection win every time. Only guys care if another guy is jacked, lol

[Mr Anabolic]

If thats your only reason for lifting then youd be 200x better off boxing, kickboxing, mma etc.A 140 pound pro boxer could kill you no matter what your weight.

How often would I run into one of those?  lol 

It's always better to be big and strong than weak and small.  Much less likely for some thug to view you as prey.  Even if I were to encounter some expert fighter, I'm always carrying a piece.

At 54 years old, the main thing I want to avoid is getting hurt.     

[SF1900]

Exactly.The loss of "dominance" you feel around other men, will more than be made up for the better treatment because your face is more aesthetic.

Face is king.

[The Scott]

Game - Set - Match over.

[Hypertrophy]

Game - Set - Match over.

You forgot "No Homo" haha

[joswift]

Only thing you gain being bigger is compliments from men.

same with big legs

[Dave D]

NO. 

Who cares what women think (or anyone else for that matter).  As long as I'm stronger than the average male and able to fend off an attacker... especially considering what's going on these days.

This.

[Army of One]

How often would I run into one of those?  lol 

It's always better to be big and strong than weak and small.  Much less likely for some thug to view you as prey.  Even if I were to encounter some expert fighter, I'm always carrying a piece.

At 54 years old, the main thing I want to avoid is getting hurt.   

So you want other men to think you are tough, so you do care what they think.Knowing a fighting style to defend yourself would be more in line with not caring what strangers think.

[Dave D]

So you want other men to think you are tough, so yoy do care what they think.Knowing a fighting style to defend yourself would be more in line with not caring what strangers think.

Mr. Anabolic is a gun man. Guns defeat all "fighting styles".

Thread over.

[Kwon]

To diet/work out like a madman and be ripped but appear normal or even small in a dress shirt and tie or a sweater, but when the shirt comes off and the stunning combo of the eight pack, serrati, intercostals and obliques just pop in bitches' faces and bitches willingly become a sex partner for life. That's 10% or less bodyfat. Problem is when fully clothed nobody knows. OR shoot up to 14 or 15% and have huge chest/back/shoulders/arms plus massive quads. Abs are just about visible. In a short sleeve shirt, other males get intimidated, women flock and touch the arms. Again, they become easy booty calls, but they don't hold exactly the same  sex fascination for 14/15% as they do for 10% or less.

Shizzo


What's most important, to look really good naked or small in a shirt, or look big and large in a shirt, but fat when naked?

[chaos]

I would assume this is what most woman are attracted to in terms of physicality.

Rory?