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Vote by Mail
« on: August 19, 2020, 01:56:42 PM »
If you think mail in voting results in fraud then you should welcome it because mail in voting has a PAPER TRAIL

IF there is fraud we will be able to actually prove it and eliminate the fraudulent votes

Of course we have many states who do all their voting by mail so we already know there is very little fraud

It's BIZZARO tha the President of the United States of America is suing states to prevent them from expanding mail in voting

It's make ZERO SENSE unless of course his goal to to suppress legitimate voters from casting a ballot


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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2020, 02:11:47 PM »


IF there is fraud we will be able to actually prove it ............


FAKE Dr., do U plan to perform HaraKiri in November '20 !.

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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2020, 02:18:30 PM »
4 Democrats, a Paterson Councilman, Councilman-elect charged in massive mail-in ballot voter fraud scheme, face years in prison


https://gellerreport.com/2020/06/4-democrats-a-paterson-councilman-councilman-elect-charged-in-massive-mail-in-ballot-voter-fraud-scheme-face-years-in-prison.html/

Paterson City Councilman Michael Jackson and Councilman-elect Alex Mendez,were charged with fraud in casting mail-in votes, unauthorized possession of ballots, tampering with public records and falsifying or tampering with records, according to the statement. Mendez was additionally charged with election fraud and false registration or transfer.

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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2020, 02:20:22 PM »
If you think mail in voting results in fraud then you should welcome it because mail in voting has a PAPER TRAIL

IF there is fraud we will be able to actually prove it and eliminate the fraudulent votes

Of course we have many states who do all their voting by mail so we already know there is very little fraud

It's BIZZARO tha the President of the United States of America is suing states to prevent them from expanding mail in voting

It's make ZERO SENSE unless of course his goal to to suppress legitimate voters from casting a ballot



Then use the Absentee Ballot process, that is already established and REQUIRES THE USE OF GOVERNMENT ISSUED IDENTIFICATION.

Instead of the fraudulent “mail in ballot” the Democrats are trying to push, WHICH DOES NOT REQUIRE THE USE OF ANY VOTER IDENTIFICATION.

Cut the bullshit, fucking liberals are physically unable to tell the truth.

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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2020, 02:22:36 PM »
Election fraud cases in NJ (most due to fraudulent use of absentee ballots).

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search?state=NJ

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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2020, 03:00:19 PM »
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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2020, 03:15:35 PM »
Election fraud cases in NJ (most due to fraudulent use of absentee ballots).

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud/search?state=NJ

These are the statistics from the link you posted

There was a total of 12 cases of voter fraud in 10 years, only 8 of which were related to absentee ballots. There were over 5 million registered voters in 2010 (about 9% voted) which is around 500,000 people. there were over 6 million in 2019.  There are 2 elections each year, the primary and the general. In only 8 years were fraudulent absentee ballots an issue. Thus during those eight years around 8,000,000 votes were cast. Tell me, what percentage of 8,000,000 is 8?  It is .000001% an infinitesimal number. I doesn't appear that fraud due to absentee ballots is a big problem in New Jersey.

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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2020, 03:27:41 PM »
These are the statistics from the link you posted

There was a total of 12 cases of voter fraud in 10 years, only 8 of which were related to absentee ballots. There were over 5 million registered voters in 2010 (about 9% voted) which is around 500,000 people. there were over 6 million in 2019.  There are 2 elections each year, the primary and the general. In only 8 years were fraudulent absentee ballots an issue. Thus during those eight years around 8,000,000 votes were cast. Tell me, what percentage of 8,000,000 is 8?  It is .000001% an infinitesimal number. I doesn't appear that fraud due to absentee ballots is a big problem in New Jersey.

Your comparison is apples and oranges.

Why would you divide 8 absentee vote fraud cases (or 8 years) by 8 million votes?  Makes no sense as they are two entirely different things.

As I said before, I hope you'll be perfectly ok with voter fraud if it's from Repub candidates who win.

I'm sure voter fraud has in the past occurred on both sides of the fence, however, going by the last names of those accused in the list,
I'd say most were Dems.

Here's one...Marty Small...who somehow has ended up Mayor of decrepit, crime infested Atlantic City, NJ:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marty_Small_Sr.

"Small was first elected to the Atlantic City city council as 2nd Ward councilman in 2003.[4]

In 2006 he was charged and acquitted of election fraud, and in 2011 he was again charged and acquitted of election fraud concerning the 2009 Atlantic City mayoral election along with five other Democrats.[5]

In 2017, Small narrowly lost to Frank Gilliam in the Democratic primary for Atlantic City mayor.[4][5]

Following the resignation of previous Atlantic City mayor Frank Gilliam, the city council voted to appoint Small as mayor.[6][2] He will serve for an unexpired term ending on December 31, 2020, following the city's November 2020 special election for mayor."

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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2020, 04:13:49 PM »
These are the statistics from the link you posted

There was a total of 12 cases of voter fraud in 10 years, only 8 of which were related to absentee ballots. There were over 5 million registered voters in 2010 (about 9% voted) which is around 500,000 people. there were over 6 million in 2019.  There are 2 elections each year, the primary and the general. In only 8 years were fraudulent absentee ballots an issue. Thus during those eight years around 8,000,000 votes were cast. Tell me, what percentage of 8,000,000 is 8?  It is .000001% an infinitesimal number. I doesn't appear that fraud due to absentee ballots is a big problem in New Jersey.

Take your fucking facts and common sense and....  Never mind.  LOL.

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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2020, 05:22:41 PM »
Then use the Absentee Ballot process, that is already established and REQUIRES THE USE OF GOVERNMENT ISSUED IDENTIFICATION.

Instead of the fraudulent “mail in ballot” the Democrats are trying to push, WHICH DOES NOT REQUIRE THE USE OF ANY VOTER IDENTIFICATION.

Cut the bullshit, fucking liberals are physically unable to tell the truth.

what "fraudulent mail in ballot" are you referring to

be specific and post a link

Again - ANY mail in ballot is a paper trail in and of itself so ANY "fraudulent" ballot can be proven to be such.

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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2020, 05:51:44 PM »
what "fraudulent mail in ballot" are you referring to

be specific and post a link

Again - ANY mail in ballot is a paper trail in and of itself so ANY "fraudulent" ballot can be proven to be such.

Do the research, it's not my responsibility to educate the liberal liars, hypocrites, retards,and perverts.

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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2020, 06:47:10 PM »
Do the research, it's not my responsibility to educate the liberal liars, hypocrites, retards,and perverts.

Translation:  You got called out on your bullshit and got nothing.

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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2020, 07:50:01 PM »
Translation:  You got called out on your bullshit and got nothing.
You've made a great cheerleader for straw man. :D
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2020, 07:50:15 PM »
The USPS has more than $10B cash on hand to operate into 2021. This is a manufactured crisis by Speaker Pelosi to distract from the fact that President Donald Trump delivered relief for Americans and she and the Democrats have failed to.

Do liberals ever get tired of lying and losing?

DONALD TRUMP IS THE GREATEST PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES!

MAGA 2020!!!

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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2020, 12:54:16 AM »
Your comparison is apples and oranges.

Why would you divide 8 absentee vote fraud cases (or 8 years) by 8 million votes?  Makes no sense as they are two entirely different things.

As I said before, I hope you'll be perfectly ok with voter fraud if it's from Repub candidates who win.

I'm sure voter fraud has in the past occurred on both sides of the fence, however, going by the last names of those accused in the list,
I'd say most were Dems.

Here's one...Marty Small...who somehow has ended up Mayor of decrepit, crime infested Atlantic City, NJ:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marty_Small_Sr.

"Small was first elected to the Atlantic City city council as 2nd Ward councilman in 2003.[4]

In 2006 he was charged and acquitted of election fraud, and in 2011 he was again charged and acquitted of election fraud concerning the 2009 Atlantic City mayoral election along with five other Democrats.[5]

In 2017, Small narrowly lost to Frank Gilliam in the Democratic primary for Atlantic City mayor.[4][5]

Following the resignation of previous Atlantic City mayor Frank Gilliam, the city council voted to appoint Small as mayor.[6][2] He will serve for an unexpired term ending on December 31, 2020, following the city's November 2020 special election for mayor."


Apples and oranges? So you are pointing out that there is voter fraud. Nobody is denying that it can an does happen. I leave the number of voters and the extremely tiny percentage of them which are fraudulent out to simplify what I am saying. Based on the link you posted there were 8 incidences of voter mail fraud over the course of 10 years. That's not even one mail fraud related vote per year. Really not enough for anyone to be concerned about.

Small was appointed Mayor of Atlantic City by the City Council. Perhaps he was the only option they had. Maybe no one else wanted the job. Not surprised, it is a thankless one.

Small was twice charged and acquitted of mail fraud. Did you miss the part where he was acquitted?

Essentially, a verdict of not guilty is an acquittal. ... But an acquittal doesn't mean the jury or judge found you innocent of the charge. It only means that the prosecution failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you were guilty. A not guilty verdict isn't the sole means of getting an acquittal.

If you want to reference the rest of the definition where it says an acquittal doesn't mean you are innocent, that's cool. Remember Trump was acquitted by the Senate of impeachment.

"A deeply divided Senate acquitted President Donald Trump at the end of his impeachment trial on Wednesday, with 52 Senators concluding the House’s allegations that he abused the power of his office did not necessitate his removal of office, and 53 reaching that conclusion on the charge that he obstructed Congress."

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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2020, 06:11:01 AM »
This is actual data: a recent congressional election in my district, a fucking disaster. I went by the polling place which in an elementary school gym. There was plenty of room, much more than in a supermarket or CVS.

There is no fucking reason for mail in voting. Funny how So-called Progressives are always Championing dated technologies like snail mail and windmills.



Thousands of absentee ballots tossed in tight Maloney-Patel House race — Queens Daily Eagle


https://queenseagle.com/all/2020/7/17/thousands-of-absentee-ballots-tossed-in-tight-maloney-patel-house-race

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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2020, 09:38:07 AM »
Do the research, it's not my responsibility to educate the liberal liars, hypocrites, retards,and perverts.

Ok I did research

Turns you that you're a fucking moron who fell for THE TRAITORS LIES AGAIN


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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2020, 10:21:09 AM »
This is actual data: a recent congressional election in my district, a fucking disaster. I went by the polling place which in an elementary school gym. There was plenty of room, much more than in a supermarket or CVS.

There is no fucking reason for mail in voting. Funny how So-called Progressives are always Championing dated technologies like snail mail and windmills.



Thousands of absentee ballots tossed in tight Maloney-Patel House race — Queens Daily Eagle


https://queenseagle.com/all/2020/7/17/thousands-of-absentee-ballots-tossed-in-tight-maloney-patel-house-race

who gives a shit if YOU think there is no reason

what YOU think is not a criteria

Did you read your own fucking link?

Those absentee ballots should be counted (unless of course there is proof of fraud)

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On Thursday, the four candidates called on the BOE to count every absentee ballot that was invalidated because the U.S. Postal Service did not postmark the envelope or because the BOE received the ballots after June 30.

“Put bluntly: A missing postmark, over which voters had no control, should not disenfranchise those voters,” the candidates wrote.




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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2020, 10:22:38 AM »
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don't worry

the stupid shit that you imagine is not actually a problem

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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2020, 10:41:27 AM »
Liberal voters are too lazy to drive or walk a block to cast their vote.  That tells you the enthusiasm for Biden.

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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2020, 10:46:34 AM »
Liberal voters are too lazy to drive or walk a block to cast their vote.  That tells you the enthusiasm for Biden.

yeah, why vote by mail when you can STAND IN LINE FOR HOURS instead and maybe catch a deadly virus

btw - no one needs a  "reason" and they certainly don't have to justify it to you or any other Trumptard. 

how many states do all their voting by mail already?



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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2020, 10:48:51 AM »
yeah, why vote by mail when you can STAND IN LINE FOR HOURS instead and maybe catch a deadly virus

btw - no one needs a  "reason" and they certainly don't have to justify it to you or any other Trumptard. 

how many states do all their voting by mail already?
Yeah, you could be one of the 0.000001% that dies. ::)  Why is it only libtard voters in danger?  Older voters tend to vote republican so why are the libtards so afraid?  Just wear your face diaper and you'll be fine.

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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2020, 11:01:12 AM »
Yeah, you could be one of the 0.000001% that dies. ::)  Why is it only libtard voters in danger?  Older voters tend to vote republican so why are the libtards so afraid?  Just wear your face diaper and you'll be fine.
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I guess we should have known that Trumptards can't do 3rd grade arithmetic. 

Do Trumptards ever stop LYING?

See if you can find a smart third grader to help you with that long division




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Re: Vote by Mail
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2020, 11:07:12 AM »
yeah, why vote by mail when you can STAND IN LINE FOR HOURS instead and maybe catch a deadly virus

btw - no one needs a  "reason" and they certainly don't have to justify it to you or any other Trumptard. 

how many states do all their voting by mail already?

Oregon has been voting by mail since November 3, 1998 - Oregon voters decide to expand VBM to primary and general elections by a vote of 757,204 to 334,021. Or for the past 22 years. -Seems to work just fine. Those folks who wait too long to mail in their ballot or would rather vote at the polls may still do so.