Paul Dilette - Freak

[pellius]

Relax. I'm talking about normal muscles. They last.

LOL. NO muscles last. Your muscles waste away as you age (sarcopenia) no matter what you do.

[Humble Narcissist]

Paul looked the champ in the gym. In 1991 everyone thought he was the best....just walking around the gym. Tall, huge, and wide. The only flaw I saw were the ugly veins on his chest.

Too bad bodybuilding evolved to have to do the so-called compulsory poses. Just standing there in the lineup should be all that is required.

Btw Paul never won the Mr Canada title. He was disqualified.

You'll always have that over him.

[Pet shop boys]

That's What happens when you shrink without getting new clothes. To be fair, it happens to a lot of people.

LMAO


WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHH

[LurkerNoMore]

Dorian commented that Paul's arms were so huge and strong that they did most of the work in the back/lat movements. Dorian criticized the "top trainer" Paul was working with because all he did was count reps. Dorian said he would have tweaked the mechanics of the movements so that it will emphasize the back more. He was a believer in pre-exhaust which would have definitely put more stimulous on his lats.

I'm not a guy who goes into a gym with somebody and just stands there and counts reps. I've seen the so-called top trainers doing this. I saw a "top" trainer at Gold's Gym training Paul Dillett during a back session and Paul had way more arms than he could ever use, huge arms, but absolutely no lats.

He was doing a so-called lat exercise and he was just using his arms to do the exercise because they are very strong: he was using totally wrong body mechanics and this so-called top trainer was just standing there saying, "Come on Paul two, three, four, that's it buddy, come on, five." He should have been correcting his form and telling how he was doing it totally wrong, and explaining how to do it properly.

( Q ) Obviously you would have taken the arms out of the equation and concentrated the majority of the stress on the back.
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I would have chosen the correct mechanics, yes, so that the stress is going to the back. If you have a genetically strong body part, that part will take over all of the time. The body will always try to find the easiest way to lift the weight. It's almost like you have to override all of that and find the hardest way to lift it.

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( Q ) And Paul, in the example you used, clearly had stronger arms.
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https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dorian_yates_training_insight.htm

This sort of goes back to what I mentioned prior where he had the shoulder injury that prevented him from contracting his back properly, which is why his arms did most of the work.

Also, I can't remember who it was that stated Paul had petitioned the Arnold Classic to allow bodybuilders to have chairs onstage to sit in when they were not doing call out shots.  In MM2K, there was an interview with Paul on arm training and the guy asked why he always walked around with his hands in his pockets and Paul said it was because his arms were so heavy that his fingers would go numb just from keeping his arms out and hanging down.  Probably bullshit, but that is what he claimed.

[escrima]

LOL. NO muscles last. Your muscles waste away as you age (sarcopenia) no matter what you do.

in your case it´s spongiform encephalopathy
your Brain is wasted

[_bruce_]

Saw him training once at Gold's Venice... the laziest trainer I ever saw.  Light weights too.  Wasn't even breathing hard after his sets.  I don't understand how he was able to get so big training like a little girl.  Very weak-minded.  He would've been unbeatable if he had Arnold's drive and determination.

Gifted and dumb.

[escrima]

Lee P has a lot of interesting Dillette stories. Basically he was all drugs. Would jab himself with whatever he could get his hands on.

at least Lee trained hard still had an old school mentality
not sure about his mental state now though
just kidding Lee

[_bruce_]

Paul learned the secrets to hypertrophy from IFBB Mr Canada 1970.

 

[Da Freak]

Not to mention a ‘brew with excellent calves. A fairly rare sight excluding Cormier. His back probably wouldn’t have even been bad if he trained harder and knew how to pose like a non-retarded person.

from a comment on that YT video:

"The reason, Paul Dillet can't hold a pose was, that he had a nervous disease. He can't hold the Muscle tension.
In the 80s he was in Germany for some Seminars and my Uncles were there and Paul Dillet talked about it.
So it shows again, never judge someone because you never know, whats behind the facade."

[oldschoolfan]

No question he was something to see.What a monster.

Him and ruhl two giant freaks.

paul dillett was a beast,   from the front possibly the best ever ,

[Ronnie Rep]

Just on height alone Dillet wins. But also the way he was put together. I really don't think there has ever been a more genetically gifted bber then Paul Dillet. To see him in person during his prime was just jaw-dropping.

I saw Dillet in Golds Gym in Sunrise Florida where he trained before moving to Venice. He was 285 and just ridiclous looking. I also got to see Sergio guest pose before he competed in the Olympia for the last time. Both just mind boggling freaks.

[pellius]

in your case it´s spongiform encephalopathy
your Brain is wasted

Still no pics from you. Still no reply as to how I handle a challenge and how you handle a challenge in a virtually identical situation.

You = Faceless coward

Pellius = Winning!

[AbrahamG]

Just on height alone Dillet wins. But also the way he was put together. I really don't think there has ever been a more genetically gifted bber then Paul Dillet. To see him in person during his prime was just jaw-dropping.

I saw him and Yates guest pose separately in 96.  I saw Yates in May and Paul a couple months later.  After seeing Dorian I was underwhelmed by Paul.  Not that he wasn't huge and impressive, just that Dorian was other worldly.

[pellius]

I saw him and Yates guest pose separately in 96.  I saw Yates in May and Paul a couple months later.  After seeing Dorian I was underwhelmed by Paul.  Not that he wasn't huge and impressive, just that Dorian was other worldly.

Though great for his era, Segio was no Dorian. Nobody was Dorian.
People can go back and forth between who was the greatest, Dorian or Coleman. I think it's just a matte of taste and preferences. For me, it's Dorian. That conditioning, the density, the graininess that only comes from being deep in the fire -- that's what does it for me.

[Griffith]

Though great for his era, Sergio was no Dorian. Nobody was Dorian.
People can go back and forth between who was the greatest, Dorian or Coleman. I think it's just a matte of taste and preferences. For me, it's Dorian. That conditioning, the density, the graininess that only comes from being deep in the fire -- that's what does it for me.

I think what made Sergio Oliva so impressive was his genetics, his extremely long muscle bellies and a very small waist.

In the photo below, it is later in his career and he has a torn left triceps but it barely makes a difference.

[pellius]

I think what made Sergio Oliva so impressive was his genetics, his extremely long muscle bellies and a very small waist.

In the photo below, it is later in his career and he has a torn left triceps but it barely makes a difference.

I don't mean to imply that Dorian had better genetics than Sergio or Dillet. He didn't. Sergio had better genetics than Arnold but still lost to Arnold because he wouldn't do whatever it took and nor could he come up with the strategies to win that Arnold did.

I think that is what makes Dorian so impressive. Dillet and Sergio, though more naturally gifted, didn't have the grit, determination, intelligence, and discipline that Dorian had.

Note in that example I gave regarding Dorian observing Charles Glass training Paul. Whether you agree with his observation or not you could see Dorian was a thinking a person. He kept notes and records and paid attention to how he trained and didn't just count sets and reps.

[Griffith]

I don't mean to imply that Dorian had better genetics than Sergio or Dillet. He didn't. Sergio had better genetics than Arnold but still lost to Arnold because he wouldn't do whatever it took and nor could he come up with the strategies to win that Arnold did.

I think that is what makes Dorian so impressive. Dillet and Sergio, though more naturally gifted, didn't have the grit, determination, intelligence, and discipline that Dorian had.

Note in that example I gave regarding Dorian observing Charles Glass training Paul. Whether you agree with his observation or not you could see Dorian was a thinking a person. He kept notes and records and paid attention to how he trained and didn't just count sets and reps.

I agree with that, Sergio had the superior genetics, but he unfortunately lacked the mindset, the 'grit, determination, intelligence, and discipline' to make the most of it.

His posing was also not great which hurt him, while Arnold would focus on his posing to make it the best, even to minimise weaknesses such as his thicker waist, to use it to his advantage. Also realised he couldn't beat Sergio with size alone, so focused on conditioning. Would also try stand more forwards on the stage, while Sergio didn't take this into account.

He also liked pizza and coke, and mostly did not seem that strict about his dieting or conditioning. His training was obviously intense but that's just a part of the total package.

[Humble Narcissist]

I agree with that, Sergio had the superior genetics, but he unfortunately lacked the mindset, the 'grit, determination, intelligence, and discipline' to make the most of it.

His posing was also not great which hurt him, while Arnold would focus on his posing to make it the best, even to minimise weaknesses such as his thicker waist, to use it to his advantage. Also realised he couldn't beat Sergio with size alone, so focused on conditioning. Would also try stand more forwards on the stage, while Sergio didn't take this into account.

He also liked pizza and coke, and mostly did not seem that strict about his dieting or conditioning. His training was obviously intense but that's just a part of the total package.

Let's not forget that Sergio beat Arnold, lost to him in a controversial decision, and was banned from the Olympia during the prime of his career.  It's not like Arnold dominated him.

[harmankardon1]

Let's not forget that Sergio beat Arnold, lost to him in a controversial decision, and was banned from the Olympia during the prime of his career.  It's not like Arnold dominated him.

This is a good point, not often brought up. ^

I do still believe generally speaking Arnold had the edge on Sergio and that as arnold progressed the 73-74 versions could have handled Sergio pretty easily.

[escrima]

sergio looked good in street clothes
remember the picture of him in a shirt cut sleeves

[SOMEPARTS]

This is a good point, not often brought up. ^

I do still believe generally speaking Arnold had the edge on Sergio and that as arnold progressed the 73-74 versions could have handled Sergio pretty easily.

Arnold would not have dared do a straight facing double bi like the Oliva pic above. It was almost always twisting to hide the waist. There are a few poses that Sergio had that nobody beat due to his proportions.

[Van_Bilderass]

Dillet had a poor back due to genetics, nothing else. If it was due to shoulder issues it would have affected the shoulders and pecs just the same.
And I'm sure the shoulder issues weren't there, at least to the same extent, earlier in his career, yet the back was always way small.
If someone has a bad bodypart it's rarely or never due to lack of "mind muscle connection". I have often made the claim that someone who is already an advanced amateur or pro never ever changes his proportions or makes a weak bodypart strong. It's pathetic seeing trainers and the clients say they are bringing up this or that bodypart, when does it ever work? Often they even post pics claiming they brought something up but you can't actually see it if you are honest. The only way something comes up is if they increased their overall size.... but then the proportions still stay the same. This is a major pet peeve of mine, like telling Dennis Wolf to bring up his lower lats - only an idiot thinks he had no lower lats due to not activating the area properly. I see these ideas by  pros and amateurs accounts on IG all day long and no one ever says it's hopeless, genes are a bitch 

Guys are going to Gold's to be trained by Charles Glass doing some stupid weird movements thinking this will change their genetic shape. It never worked and never will. You can maybe play with some site enhancements and hope it will look ok, or like I said before, just get bigger overall so you are so overwhelmingly big the judges will not care about you crappy calves or whatever. Calves are the prime example of how much genes matter - those with insane calves often never even train them, and the ones with shit calves shoot them up - soo many examples of syntholed calves; Ronnie, Dex, and half the Olympia lineup.

Milos did some insane training, hitting each muscle from 100 angles, yet he still felt he had to Synthol his arms because nothing was happening. Or  maybe his mind muscle connection was poor 

I expect some pushback on this post. Please change my mind or tell me I'm an idiot 

[King Shizzo]

Dillet had a poor back due to genetics, nothing else. If it was due to shoulder issues it would have affected the shoulders and pecs just the same.
And I'm sure the shoulder issues weren't there, at least to the same extent, earlier in his career, yet the back was always way small.
If someone has a bad bodypart it's rarely or never due to lack of "mind muscle connection". I have often made the claim that someone who is already an advanced amateur or pro never ever changes his proportions or makes a weak bodypart strong. It's pathetic seeing trainers and the clients say they are bringing up this or that bodypart, when does it ever work? Often they even post pics claiming they brought something up but you can't actually see it if you are honest. The only way something comes up is if they increased their overall size.... but then the proportions still stay the same. This is a major pet peeve of mine, like telling Dennis Wolf to bring up his lower lats - only an idiot thinks he had no lower lats due to not activating the area properly. I see these ideas by  pros and amateurs accounts on IG all day long and no one ever says it's hopeless, genes are a bitch 

Guys are going to Gold's to be trained by Charles Glass doing some stupid weird movements thinking this will change their genetic shape. It never worked and never will. You can maybe play with some site enhancements and hope it will look ok, or like I said before, just get bigger overall so you are so overwhelmingly big the judges will not care about you crappy calves or whatever. Calves are the prime example of how much genes matter - those with insane calves often never even train them, and the ones with shit calves shoot them up - soo many examples of syntholed calves; Ronnie, Dex, and half the Olympia lineup.

Milos did some insane training, hitting each muscle from 100 angles, yet he still felt he had to Synthol his arms because nothing was happening. Or  maybe his mind muscle connection was poor 

It can be insightful but still qualify as a meltdown.

MELTDOWN.

[Humble Narcissist]

Dillet had a poor back due to genetics, nothing else. If it was due to shoulder issues it would have affected the shoulders and pecs just the same.
And I'm sure the shoulder issues weren't there, at least to the same extent, earlier in his career, yet the back was always way small.
If someone has a bad bodypart it's rarely or never due to lack of "mind muscle connection". I have often made the claim that someone who is already an advanced amateur or pro never ever changes his proportions or makes a weak bodypart strong. It's pathetic seeing trainers and the clients say they are bringing up this or that bodypart, when does it ever work? Often they even post pics claiming they brought something up but you can't actually see it if you are honest. The only way something comes up is if they increased their overall size.... but then the proportions still stay the same. This is a major pet peeve of mine, like telling Dennis Wolf to bring up his lower lats - only an idiot thinks he had no lower lats due to not activating the area properly. I see these ideas by  pros and amateurs accounts on IG all day long and no one ever says it's hopeless, genes are a bitch 

Guys are going to Gold's to be trained by Charles Glass doing some stupid weird movements thinking this will change their genetic shape. It never worked and never will. You can maybe play with some site enhancements and hope it will look ok, or like I said before, just get bigger overall so you are so overwhelmingly big the judges will not care about you crappy calves or whatever. Calves are the prime example of how much genes matter - those with insane calves often never even train them, and the ones with shit calves shoot them up - soo many examples of syntholed calves; Ronnie, Dex, and half the Olympia lineup.

Milos did some insane training, hitting each muscle from 100 angles, yet he still felt he had to Synthol his arms because nothing was happening. Or  maybe his mind muscle connection was poor 

I expect some pushback on this post. Please change my mind or tell me I'm an idiot 

You are right about this.

[pellius]

Dillet had a poor back due to genetics, nothing else. If it was due to shoulder issues it would have affected the shoulders and pecs just the same.
And I'm sure the shoulder issues weren't there, at least to the same extent, earlier in his career, yet the back was always way small.
If someone has a bad bodypart it's rarely or never due to lack of "mind muscle connection". I have often made the claim that someone who is already an advanced amateur or pro never ever changes his proportions or makes a weak bodypart strong. It's pathetic seeing trainers and the clients say they are bringing up this or that bodypart, when does it ever work? Often they even post pics claiming they brought something up but you can't actually see it if you are honest. The only way something comes up is if they increased their overall size.... but then the proportions still stay the same. This is a major pet peeve of mine, like telling Dennis Wolf to bring up his lower lats - only an idiot thinks he had no lower lats due to not activating the area properly. I see these ideas by  pros and amateurs accounts on IG all day long and no one ever says it's hopeless, genes are a bitch 

Guys are going to Gold's to be trained by Charles Glass doing some stupid weird movements thinking this will change their genetic shape. It never worked and never will. You can maybe play with some site enhancements and hope it will look ok, or like I said before, just get bigger overall so you are so overwhelmingly big the judges will not care about you crappy calves or whatever. Calves are the prime example of how much genes matter - those with insane calves often never even train them, and the ones with shit calves shoot them up - soo many examples of syntholed calves; Ronnie, Dex, and half the Olympia lineup.

Milos did some insane training, hitting each muscle from 100 angles, yet he still felt he had to Synthol his arms because nothing was happening. Or  maybe his mind muscle connection was poor 

I expect some pushback on this post. Please change my mind or tell me I'm an idiot 

I don't know if it is that much of a lost cause as you imply. Arnold, as an advance bber made a huge change in his calves. Phil Heath as a pro brought up his back to make it a strong point, meaning that although his overall proportions increased, his back more so making it stand out more. Jay Cutler the same. Compare his back in 2001, when he was a breath away from being Mr. O to what it was later in his career.