How likely is it to restore fertility in someone who has been on gear for 5 yrs+

[NickEdge779]

I read some scientific studies and journals that most men are able to restore fertility within 1 year after cessation of exogenous testosterone usage, but I am always skeptical about this. In your experience, have any of you or any of your friends struggled with fertility after 5+ years straight of using gear? My wife and I want to have kids some day and sometimes I debate with myself whether I should just cut cold turkey and do a hardcore PCT because the longer I use, the harder it might be to have kids in a few years

[IroNat]

You're risking screwing up your ability to have kids for what?  Bodybuilding trophies?  Looking good on the beach?

It's a meaningless journey you're on. 

Bodybuilding was originally about strength and health.  It went off the tracks in the 1960s when drug use became common.

Is it now about ruining your health? 

When a 'roided bodybuilder walks around today all people think is "that guy is on drugs".

Nobody but schmoes are impressed.

[deadz]

10yrs on. Went off used hcg my son is now 4.

[Dave D]

You should have your sperm counted.  And if your count is low look into your options.

[illuminati]

You're risking screwing up your ability to have kids for what?  Bodybuilding trophies?  Looking good on the beach?

It's a meaningless journey you're on. 

Bodybuilding was originally about strength and health.  It went off the tracks in the 1960s when drug use became common.

Is it now about ruining your health? 

When a 'roided bodybuilder walks around today all people think is "that guy is on drugs".

Nobody but schmoes are impressed.

That could be said for all sports as they all use some form of PEDs The higher the level of competition
The PEDs - It’s part of sports & has been for a long time, it’s not likely to change any time soon.
The bigger the money at stake the bigger the chemical warfare.
Often the man/ team with the Best Chemistry Set wins.

[IroNat]

That could be said for all sports as they all use some form of PEDs The higher the level of competition
The PEDs - It’s part of sports & has been for a long time, it’s not likely to change any time soon.
The bigger the money at stake the bigger the chemical warfare.
Often the man/ team with the Best Chemistry Set wins.

Is bodybuilding a sport?  It's a beauty pageant.

I'm not doubting what you said about pro athletes but is this guy a pro athlete making hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars?

Or is he just a guy who wants to look buff in the gym and on the beach or win a plastic Mr. Nowhere trophy? 

Maybe he is a highly paid pro athlete in the NFL.  If he is I doubt he'd be asking the question.

I'm not sure how many other sport athletes stay on for many years without a break until their nuts fall off.

[Dave D]

Nick have you considered just having a sperm count done? It’s covered by most insurances.

[GymnJuice]

Nick have you considered just having a sperm count done? It’s covered by most insurances.

Getbig gurus don't need sperm counts to give the correct answer.  Labwork is for those of less expertise.

[benchmstr]

I had no issue...but I was off for 10 years...and I had a daughter which is common for people on gear and former gear users.

Bench

[illuminati]

Is bodybuilding a sport?  It's a beauty pageant.

I'm not doubting what you said about pro athletes but is this guy a pro athlete making hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars?

Or is he just a guy who wants to look buff in the gym and on the beach or win a plastic Mr. Nowhere trophy? 

Maybe he is a highly paid pro athlete in the NFL.  If he is I doubt he'd be asking the question.

I'm not sure how many other sport athletes stay on for many years without a break until their nuts fall off.

Sport or not it’s not the Point is it.
You were Bashing Bodybuilders for using PEDs
And I merely pointed out the same was happening in most likely all other sporting endeavours
That’s the reality- How does earning lots of money alter anything? If you dislike Drugs in sport.

I’m not here to argue for or against. Man all throughout history has sought out herbs/ elixirs / animals Balls Etc Etc & Now Drugs to improve their physical performance so Nowt has changed.

As to how long others stay on for is a different subject.

[IroNat]

Sport or not it’s not the Point is it.
You were Bashing Bodybuilders for using PEDs
And I merely pointed out the same was happening in most likely all other sporting endeavours
That’s the reality- How does earning lots of money alter anything? If you dislike Drugs in sport.

I’m not here to argue for or against. Man all throughout history has sought out herbs/ elixirs / animals Balls Etc Etc & Now Drugs to improve their physical performance so Nowt has changed.

As to how long others stay on for is a different subject.

No, what I'm saying is it's foolish to risk your fertility or your health unless there is some outsized reward like big money.

Being a local gym hero is not enough.  That's my opinion.  You makes your choice, you takes your chances.

[illuminati]

No, what I'm saying is it's foolish to risk your health unless there is some outsized reward like big money.

Okay- Only very many Risk their Health by Smoking & Drinking excessive amounts
or Driving thousands of miles each year for work, - Look I get your point, only there are huge
Risks in many many things we all do without there being any large monetary reward.

Life is short & there are no guarantees plus we all take out just as much as we brought
In to this life - Nothing. 

I’m not into many many party drugs or drinks or other potions Many are & That’s their
Outlook & problem. As long as they’re damaging themselves what’s the issue.

[Theoak*]

On longer than that, got a sperm count before trying to conceive.  Results came back 0, ran hcg 1500iu eod and mrs was pregnant within 3 months.  I have 2 kids now.

[IroNat]

Okay- Only very many Risk their Health by Smoking & Drinking excessive amounts
or Driving thousands of miles each year for work, - Look I get your point, only there are huge
Risks in many many things we all do without there being any large monetary reward.

Life is short & there are no guarantees plus we all take out just as much as we brought
In to this life - Nothing. 

I’m not into many many party drugs or drinks or other potions Many are & That’s their
Outlook & problem. As long as they’re damaging themselves what’s the issue.

I believe everyone has the right to wreck themselves but that doesn't mean I think it's smart.

If you want to smoke or drink or go rock climbing go ahead.

If this guy thinks it's worth risking his nuts then that's his decision.

[illuminati]

I believe everyone has the right to wreck themselves but that doesn't mean I think it's smart.

If you want to smoke or drink or go rock climbing go ahead.

If this guy thinks it's worth risking his nuts then that's his decision.

X2 - That’s my philosophy also.

Though I’m aware of the risks of things I do that perhaps others wouldn’t
Probably more so at my Age.

[oldtimer1]

You're risking screwing up your ability to have kids for what?  Bodybuilding trophies?  Looking good on the beach?

It's a meaningless journey you're on. 

Bodybuilding was originally about strength and health.  It went off the tracks in the 1960s when drug use became common.

Is it now about ruining your health? 

When a 'roided bodybuilder walks around today all people think is "that guy is on drugs".

Nobody but schmoes are impressed.

All true.

[El Diablo Blanco]

How do these juiced up black nfl players manage to have a dozen children.  I think you’ll be fine.

[WalterWhite]

What was the question?

[epic is back]

its not alway the man who is at fault

women fuck up their bodies by being on birth control to long

[Van_Bilderass]

It's very likely you'll be able to become fertile unless there was a problem unrelated to roids. It's not absolutely necessary to get off roids either, you just do HCG and HMG every other day and give it a few months as it takes a couple of months to produce viable sperm.

[Dave D]

its not alway the man who is at fault

women fuck up their bodies by being on birth control to long gaining weight and very few men want to intercourse them.

Fixed

[harmankardon1]

I can't believe so many dullard's still think there's any real link with steroids and long term male infertility.... There isn't!

As pointed out above Ronnie coleman has 8 kids....

Personally I knocked up my ex girlfriend WHILE using 2500 mgs anabolics a week. That's not a typo 2.5 grams and got her pregnant and I wasn't using hcg either.

[Flexacon]

I can't believe so many dullard's still think there's any real link with steroids and long term male infertility.... There isn't!

As pointed out above Ronnie coleman has 8 kids....

Personally I knocked up my ex girlfriend WHILE using 2500 mgs anabolics a week. That's not a typo 2.5 grams and got her pregnant and I wasn't using hcg either.

Or she lied to you and it's another mans kid 

[epic is back]

what would you know about it twinkle toes

[POB]

I read some scientific studies and journals that most men are able to restore fertility within 1 year after cessation of exogenous testosterone usage, but I am always skeptical about this. In your experience, have any of you or any of your friends struggled with fertility after 5+ years straight of using gear? My wife and I want to have kids some day and sometimes I debate with myself whether I should just cut cold turkey and do a hardcore PCT because the longer I use, the harder it might be to have kids in a few years

taper to a trt dose of test 100mg a week and take 2 shots 500mcg Hcg each Mon/Thur if shes not pregnant in 6 months do 1000mcg Hcg twice a week. If you could have kids b4 gear you will be able to after don’t worry about it. I’ve known a ton of guys who knocked up their gf/wife just adding Hcg to their cycle and even more doing Hcg for post cycle therapy. Tell your wife to decorate the nursery pink because 80 or 90 % of these guys had girls even the 2nd kid. It be smart to get your test/Hcg  from a trt clinic so u know what  your getting any of them will give u that dose. Hcg can go in the freezer so mix  10cc of bac. Water in A 10,000
Mcg bottle of Hcg and draw 20 1cc slin Pins to 50(1/2 cc) so you know each shot is 500mcg Hcg. And stick them in the freezer till it time to use. Enjoy smelling shitty diapers the next 3 years and your wife being too busy with the baby to want to service your little solider when ever you want like she use to