How to get big and strong without drugs

[IroNat]

[Humble Narcissist]

Eat 10,000 calories a day and lift heavy weights twice a week.  That will do it.

[Royalty]

Eat 10,000 calories a day and lift heavy weights twice a week.  That will do it.

Nobody eats 10,000 calories per day


Maybe they eat that amount once. But getting beyond 6,000 every single day is difficult

[Mr Anabolic]

Nobody eats 10,000 calories per day


Maybe they eat that amount once. But getting beyond 6,000 every single day is difficult

Vic Richards eats 30,000!   Remember that BS?  lol     

Clean foods?.. my max was 4000 a day, and it was very difficult.

[Humble Narcissist]

Nobody eats 10,000 calories per day


Maybe they eat that amount once. But getting beyond 6,000 every single day is difficult

O.k., eat 6000 calories a day and lift twice a week.

[IroNat]

Just lift heavy weights and eat till you're full is enough.  Don't try to eat clean.

[Griffith]

For most naturals without elite genetics, they will have to have quite a bit of fat to look big.

[IroNat]

For most naturals without elite genetics, they will have to have quite a bit of fat to look big.

That's called "normal".

[affeman]

There is NO WAY to get big and strong without drugs, hope this helps.

Unless you consider "big" 190 at 15 % bf and "strong" benching 220 lol

[Humble Narcissist]

There is NO WAY to get big and strong without drugs, hope this helps.

Unless you consider "big" 190 at 15 % bf and "strong" benching 220 lol

There were big strong men long before bodybuilding drugs.  Having a huge amount of muscle while at 5% body fat is something else.

[affeman]

Impossible without drugs

[MAXX]

Impossible without drugs oil

[IroNat]

There is NO WAY to get big and strong without drugs, hope this helps.

Unless you consider "big" 190 at 15 % bf and "strong" benching 220 lol

Wrong, bro.  So wrong.

[IroNat]

Impossible without drugs

Definitely impossible to look and die like that without drugs.

[Tbomzisback!]

Have great genetics
Lift heavy
Eat lots of protein

For the normal guy, you can't be "big" - not compared to the guys we see in movies and magazines. But you can be big and strong compared to the average guy.

A "powerbuilding" routine that focuses on getting stronger overtime is best here. Big weights, and lots of rest and recovery.

[IroNat]

Have great genetics
Lift heavy
Eat lots of protein

For the normal guy, you can't be "big" - not compared to the guys we see in movies and magazines. But you can be big and strong compared to the average guy.

A "powerbuilding" routine that focuses on getting stronger overtime is best here. Big weights, and lots of rest and recovery.

You can't look like a steroid guy if you don't use steroids.

No doubt about it.

Some guys that use steroids don't even look like steroid guys.

[Titus Pullo]

Wrong, bro.  So wrong.

Agreed.

Most strong natties I've known tended to be on the fatter side of the spectrum, but their ceiling is certainly higher than a 225 bench :/

[oldtimer1]

Impossible without drugs

or enough oil to fill a hemi engine.

[Taffin]

Impossible without drugs MASSIVE and fatal coronary infarction

[Taffin]

PS - PIP Anniversary Big Fella (25 August)

[oldtimer1]

You can look great lifting natural. Yes, there is no comparison to steroid bodybuilders. When bodybuilders have bigger muscles than professional NFL running backs, sprinters and MMA fighters you know what you are looking at is both temporary and drug dependent.

I wish drugs were never invented then bodybuilding would be at this level. It's real.

[benchmstr]

1)Get as lean as possible to help insulin sensitivity...your not going to gain as much if you start out fat.
2) then start eating a super surplus
3) lift as heavy for as many sets and reps as you can..don’t limit yourself.
4) don’t plan days off from the gym
5) actually do cardio...it’s boring as hell but teaches you how to stay the course no matter how bad it sucks.

Bench

[joswift]

Impossible without drugs

his mother posts on FB, she still thinks he was an inspirational person

[Humble Narcissist]

You can look great lifting natural. Yes, there is no comparison to steroid bodybuilders. When bodybuilders have bigger muscles than professional NFL running backs, sprinters and MMA fighters you know what you are looking at is both temporary and drug dependent.

I wish drugs were never invented then bodybuilding would be at this level. It's real.

That's what all natties should compare themselves to as opposed to modern day competitors.  Those old time bodybuilders looked good and were probably carrying 10% bodyfat or more.  When natties try to get too lean all their muscle disappears.  It is not normal for the human body to lose all bodyfat while keeping all of the muscle.  When the body gets below a certain % of fat it is almost impossible to lose that last bit because you are in starvation mode.  I would rather look like those guys on stage year around rather than be a bloated mess most of the year anyway.

[funk51]