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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths
« Reply #75 on: September 01, 2020, 05:43:28 PM »
You....are a complete retard

Comorbidities

Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned.For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups. For data on comorbidities - CDC

yes, obesity being one of them, vitamin D deficiency being another etc.. this isn't new, it has an effective death rate of about 5.6% without controlling for health conditions, most people have health conditions. Some conditions like asthma for example increase the rate.

Do I think shutdown is a good idea? no

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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths
« Reply #77 on: September 01, 2020, 06:01:35 PM »
TL:DR
You're not even American, just an obsessed socialist fan.

Well, well, our resident rocket scientist. The country I post from has nothing to do with my birth place.

What a simpleton.

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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths
« Reply #78 on: September 01, 2020, 06:16:28 PM »
I never cared:
-I
 never cared if you were “gay“ until you started shoving it in my face, and the faces of our children.
-I never cared
 what colour you were, until you started blaming my race for your problems.
-I never cared
 about your political affiliation until you started to condemn me for mine.
-I never cared
 where you were born until you wanted to erase my history and blame my ancestors for your current problems.
-I never cared
 if you were well-off or poor, until you said you were discriminated against, when I was promoted because I worked harder.
-I never cared
 if your beliefs were different from mine, until you said my beliefs were wrong.
Now
 I care!
My
 patience and tolerance are gone.
I’m not alone
 in feeling this way there are millions of us who do......and we have had enough!!

I never cared that you were christian until you started shoving it in my face and insisting the entire country had to live by your personal religious beliefs


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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths
« Reply #79 on: September 01, 2020, 06:36:18 PM »
I never cared that you were christian until you started shoving it in my face and insisting the entire country had to live by your personal religious beliefs
I never cared that you were transgender until you started shoving it in my face and insisting the entire country had to live by your personal sexual beliefs.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths
« Reply #80 on: September 01, 2020, 06:36:55 PM »
I never cared that you were christian until you started shoving it in my face and insisting the entire country had to live by your personal religious beliefs

What a fag.

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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths
« Reply #81 on: September 01, 2020, 06:38:36 PM »
I never cared that you were transgender until you started shoving it in my face and insisting the entire country had to live by your personal sexual beliefs.

I bet he was shoving “something” in you face - fucken loser.

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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths
« Reply #82 on: September 01, 2020, 06:39:23 PM »
I bet he was shoving “something” in you face - fucken loser.

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Aren't you dead yet? Faker.
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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths
« Reply #83 on: September 01, 2020, 06:41:28 PM »
Aren't you dead yet? Faker.

Only faker near you is you wife - still can’t keep her satisfied hun ( yeah, people talk )?

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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths
« Reply #84 on: September 01, 2020, 06:44:33 PM »
Only faker near you is you wife - still can keep her satisfied hum ( yeah, people talk.)

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Yes, people talk, fako. How's your fake cancer?
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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths - 6% only
« Reply #85 on: September 01, 2020, 06:57:16 PM »
I can just picture you, sitting shirtless in a disheveled little apartment, living pay check to pay check . . . In complete control.

I have a suggestion, why don’t you and coach team up and work the Indy wrestling circuit - call yourselves “Pint and a Half.” You could do the big, tough guy thing and coach could run and kneecap your opponents. Kind of Butterbean and Peter Dinklage take on all comers thing.

You honestly have no idea, do you? I’ll leave you now to reflect on the state of your life and the knowledge you’re a loser. It must be hard to sleep with that as your reality.

Now fuck off. Human garbage.

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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths
« Reply #86 on: September 02, 2020, 04:03:39 AM »
I never cared that you were christian until you started shoving it in my face and insisting the entire country had to live by your personal religious beliefs

you truly are lost... a godless homo, with stage 5 tds, who lives and dies for posting political shit on a bodybuilding board. hell of a life pal

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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths
« Reply #87 on: September 02, 2020, 04:15:34 AM »
I never cared that you were christian until you started shoving it in my face and insisting the entire country had to live by your personal religious beliefs
When did this happen?

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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths - 6% only
« Reply #88 on: September 02, 2020, 08:47:47 AM »
Considering the huge number of asymptomatic cases, how can you possibly conclude that the people with the co-morbidities would not have suffered the exact same fate without the positive test?

Asking for a friend.

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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths
« Reply #89 on: September 02, 2020, 09:39:46 AM »
I never cared that you were christian until you started shoving it in my face and insisting the entire country had to live by your personal religious beliefs

its on the money for fucks sakes,

god we trust

your god can be your god, just shut up and pray to your god, i never mentioned god nor do i care if you believe what i belive in

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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths - 6% only
« Reply #90 on: September 02, 2020, 06:25:27 PM »
It was a lie.  It was always a lie. Just shit.

I called it from day one.

Cowards.
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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths - 6% only
« Reply #91 on: September 02, 2020, 06:34:42 PM »
the best we can do from here on out is to stop wearing the masks. it happens one by one. monkey see monkey do

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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths - 6% only
« Reply #92 on: September 02, 2020, 07:11:23 PM »
I highly doubt it's 20 mil but it damn sure isn't 8000 which was reported by the Chinknese Govt.

So when major cellphone carriers in China reported a loss in nearly 21 million subscriptions in January and February, some skeptics theorized that the number of phone numbers that disappeared from the original hotspot of the disease may correlate to the real number of lives lost to the novel coronavirus.

According to data published by the mobile carriers, China Mobile Ltd. saw a drop of nearly 7.25 million subscribers and China Unicom Hong Kong Ltd. lost 7.8 million subscribers in January and February, while China Telecom Corp. lost 5.6 million subscribers in February alone, the Associated Press reported.

China affairs expert Tang Jinyuan explained that having a cellphone and a cell subscription is married to daily life in China. “Dealing with the government for pensions and social security, buying train tickets, shopping … no matter what people want to do, they are required to use cellphones," she said in an interview with the Epoch Times.

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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths
« Reply #93 on: September 02, 2020, 07:19:27 PM »
I did not say I did not agree with you guys.  I am the first one to say open up the businesses in California, especially in Los Angeles, where the liberal run amok in destroying small business.  I do however, need facts, when someone says only 6% are Covid death, when we know that Covid accelerates death with people who have other symptoms that may have not died that quick.

Oh by the way, we can discuss and debate it here, I won't censor you guys, UNLIKE Facebook, who have now blocked this 6%, and give you a 'False - with a Fact Check' if you post it. Facebook thinks people are really stupid and dumb.


But love to debate it..

https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020/08/fact-check-the-cdc-did-not-admit-that-only-six-percent-of-deaths-in-covid-toll-were-from-covid-19.html

hats off to you for recognizing obvious flaws in the OP's post. The CDC has since confirmed the tweet coach and the President (feeble minds think alike) have been promoting was false.

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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths - 6% only
« Reply #94 on: September 02, 2020, 07:28:58 PM »
I highly doubt it's 20 mil but it damn sure isn't 8000 which was reported by the Chinknese Govt.

So when major cellphone carriers in China reported a loss in nearly 21 million subscriptions in January and February, some skeptics theorized that the number of phone numbers that disappeared from the original hotspot of the disease may correlate to the real number of lives lost to the novel coronavirus.

That was posted here originally.

I commented that it was BS to come to the conclusion to equate a mobile phone subscription to being alive LOL. 
Honestly, the majority on the planet are unable to properly comprehend data. That's just a simple fact of life. All i do is manage data and even very smart people fuck it up because they just can't relate the data in a meaningful way to a problem

We have a pandamic. It shuts the country down. It shuts the globe down. Businesses are not operating. Kids are not in school. People are making less money, they cancel their kid's plan, cancel their second business phone. That is the correct conclusion to make with phone subscriptions.

We are in September and nobody has heard shit about the mobile phone data...... that's because it went back up.....did people rise from the dead over there? Nope. They activated their additional phones. 

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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths
« Reply #95 on: September 02, 2020, 07:48:18 PM »
hats off to you for recognizing obvious flaws in the OP's post. The CDC has since confirmed the tweet coach and the President (feeble minds think alike) have been promoting was false.
The cdc did admit that only 6% of these reported deaths list covid as the sole cause of death, the other 94% of these deaths have multiple contributing factors averaging 2.6 other factors, they aren't covid deaths.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities


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ComorbiditiesTable 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths
« Reply #96 on: September 02, 2020, 07:59:10 PM »
The cdc did admit that only 6% of these reported deaths list covid as the sole cause of death, the other 94% of these deaths have multiple contributing factors averaging 2.6 other factors, they aren't covid deaths.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities

No, you are still misled. What they said was for example to make it simple, a person had diabetes and Covid. They may have died years later from diabetes, but COVID sped it up to now. without the underlying issues they may have survived covid. But Covid accompanied by the underlying issue was the cause

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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths - 6% only
« Reply #97 on: September 02, 2020, 08:22:58 PM »
I love all of you, but here's the rational statistical analysis of what was said:

Do people die of HIV? Not really. They die of complications from HIV (complications like Pneumonia, opportunistic infections and the development of AIDS where your immune system is shot and any little infection kills you).

People don't generally die from viruses, what they do die from are the complications as a result of the viruses. For instance, HPV leads to --> Cervical cancer --> death. Hepatitis B or C --> Liver Cirrhosis--> death.

Likewise, when they say that 94% of people who died from COVID also has 2 other conditions or so, when they name these conditions, they are usually complications as a result of the virus (Acute respiratory distress syndrome, pneumonia, systemic inflammatory response syndrome etc).

I'm pretty sure that's the bottom line with regards to what the CDC was trying to convey with this information.

All that said, not to play conspiracy theorist, but I do find it odd that there was a patent for this virus as far back as 2017 and that Fauci was indeed talking about an incoming pandemic well before this thing surfaced.

Some things are simply not adding up too well gentlemen.

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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths
« Reply #98 on: September 02, 2020, 09:18:34 PM »
No, you are still misled. What they said was for example to make it simple, a person had diabetes and Covid. They may have died years later from diabetes, but COVID sped it up to now. without the underlying issues they may have survived covid. But Covid accompanied by the underlying issue was the cause
It's a direct quote and link from the cdc, how can I be misled ???
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Re: CDC revises the #chinavirus US deaths - 6% only
« Reply #99 on: September 02, 2020, 09:22:07 PM »
What the CDC confirmed is that they’re still calling somebody who smoked for 50 years and then came up positive on a test, as having died of Covid.