Evan Centopani - Shoulder Workout - Current condition

[Van_Bilderass]

Lol this pic came up when I googled for Christmas trees.
Bodybuilding guru Ameen Alai shows off his Christmas Tree.
Dude is like 15% bodyfat, that's skin folding in a certain way over fat 

[pellius]

More evidence of your senility. I actually said I'm embarrassed by my ability to judge a mans physique so try to avoid it.

No one gives a shit about what you look like and your just for men hair is nothing to brag about.

Also even as a straight heterosexual male I have been very open about my faggotory on here. There has been nothing closeted about my posts. Unlike you who can't get away from the image of a less than perfect rule and take any criticism of him as a personal insult.

He's fat, get over it.

Actually, this is more of an example of your idiocy. I never took it personally. I made that clear many times. That's why I never insulted anybody that disagreed with me and repeatedly described it as an honest disagreement and reasonably presented my argument always qualifying it as my own personal opinion. And Markus was randomly chosen only because he happened to be standing next to Evan. I could have easily picked Hide instead. It is you who took personal offense and now I see why. Balding phaggots like you get very touchy when their taste in other men are questioned.

[Flexacon]

Here you can see what I mean. Imagine pinching the skin on his lower back. That's clearly very thick skin with some fat, not at all like say the skin on the back of your hand. It's not muscle fibers, it's skin folding in a certain way. Getting leaner would probably reduce the Christmas tree effect, especially when viewed at a distance.
If you've ever pinched the lower back of a contest lean bb you know what I mean. It may look ripped at a distance but those bags of fat/water gives the appearance of a Christmas tree.

There is very little body fat on his lower back there.

I think what you're talking about is fat nodules (lipoma) some people can develop on their lower back that won't go away regardless of dieting. Nathan deasha is an extreme example when it comes to those lower back fat nodules. Dexter has them too.





Surgery is the only option for removing them.

[Flexacon]

Actually, this is more of an example of your idiocy. I never took it personally. I made that clear many times. That's why I never insulted anybody that disagreed with me and repeatedly described it as an honest disagreement and reasonably presented my argument always qualifying it as my own personal opinion. And Markus was randomly chosen only because he happened to be standing next to Evan. I could have easily picked Hide instead. It is you who took personal offense and now I see why. Balding phaggots like you get very touchy when their taste in other men are questioned.

Lol. The fact is I already said Hide was pretty much better than everyone else, but you're so hung up on me calling your man crush fat that you've become blind to everything else. This is your cheeseburger moment all over again. Post that pic of your swollen hand again after you got into a fight with a homeless guy over a burger.

Ruhl was fat and your body is broken and you're going senile. It's life, deal with it and the just for men just makes you look like creepy pedo.

Back when being big was still rewarded.

Using modern day judging Hide would be close to winning.

[pellius]

Lol. The fact is I already said Hide was pretty much better than everyone else, but you're so hung up on me calling your man crush fat that you've become blind to everything else. This is your cheeseburger moment all over again. Post that pic of your swollen hand again after you got into a fight with a homeless guy over a burger.

Ruhl was fat and your body is broken and you're going senile. It's life, deal with it and the just for men just makes you look like creepy pedo.

Again your obsession with "man crush". I look creepy? Why don't you post a picture of yourself? Always the anonymous cowards that comment on other people's looks. I can only imagine how ugly you are that you have to suck your own cock.

[Flexacon]

Again your obsession with "man crush". I look creepy? Why don't you post a picture of yourself? Always the anonymous cowards that comment on other people's looks. I can only imagine how ugly you are that you have to suck your own cock.

We can't all be like Ruhl and have a white knight like pellius to suck us off.

There you go. Now lets get a picture of your trying that. We all know you'd snap in half and need 6 months rehab if you tried.

[Flexacon]

Lol this pic came up when I googled for Christmas trees.
Bodybuilding guru Ameen Alai shows off his Christmas Tree.
Dude is like 15% bodyfat, that's skin folding in a certain way over fat 

He doesn't have the lower lat muscle development to ever have much of an xmas tree going on.

[Van_Bilderass]

There is very little body fat on his lower back there.

I think what you're talking about is fat nodules (lipoma) some people can develop on their lower back that won't go away regardless of dieting. Nathan deasha is an extreme example when it comes to those lower back fat nodules. Dexter has them too.





Surgery is the only option for removing them.

Lipomas are another "phenomena". I'm just saying the Christmas Tree effects has to do with how the skin folds in that area, it's not how the muscle looks beneath. That's why you can have that rippling effect even as the skin is still thick there.

Actually, at the time of these pics I remember thinking he may have shot something "localized" trying to liberate fat there. Those might be injection bumps.

That pic of Dex again shows how "thick skinned" he is. I'm not trying to shit on him, he is very lean, it's just that he doesn't look very "saran wrapped" like some others do, the skin appears quite thick to me.

You're right, Ameen doesn't have the muscle. But that ripple effect is showing a bit there, it's just has to do with the skin, it's not muscle poking through thin skin.

[pellius]

We can't all be like Ruhl and have a white knight like pellius to suck us off.

There you go. Now lets get a picture of your trying that. We all know you'd snap in half and need 6 months rehab if you tried.

Again your preoccupation of men sucking cocks, and especially your fantasies of me sucking cocks. And who is "We'? You think you speak for everybody? Why do you phags project your perversions on to others? That you think and want to believe that every man is either outwardly or "secretly" a phag?

Society was so much better when phags like you stayed in the closet.

[MAXX]

Here you can see what I mean. Imagine pinching the skin on his lower back. That's clearly very thick skin with some fat, not at all like say the skin on the back of your hand. It's not muscle fibers, it's skin folding in a certain way. Getting leaner would probably reduce the Christmas tree effect, especially when viewed at a distance.
If you've ever pinched the lower back of a contest lean bb you know what I mean. It may look ripped at a distance but those bags of fat/water gives the appearance of a Christmas tree.

I have to disagree with you there completly. You seem to lack muscle anatomy understanding.

That part you see on the lover back there having that wavy effect is the thoracolumbar fascia. It inserts in the spine, so naturally it will not be straight, but "wavy" as you see there

[Flexacon]

Again your preoccupation of men sucking cocks, and especially your fantasies of me sucking cocks. And who is "We'? You think you speak for everybody? Why do you phags project your perversions on to others? That you think and want to believe that every man is either outwardly or "secretly" a phag?

Society was so much better when phags like you stayed in the closet.

I have the same preoccupation with sucking cocks that you have with underage girls ..

[pamith]

He won the NY Pro, beating DJ and Markus Ruhl in 2009 (at the top of his MD-hype lol)

Omg Markus Ruhl looks so much wider than Evan wtf

[honest]

Ruhl without the lower back fat. Its not a thick skin issue

Ruhl at that years night of champions was immense, i stand by what i said earlier, off season insulin use and higher off season bodyweights thickened his skin folds, plus tolerance to diuretics, have seen plenty of guys contest ready everywhere besides their backs, someone like Dorian would have simply prepared over a longer period, the back was simply where it came off him last. Another 4 to 8 weeks contest prep would have brought it down.

I sometimes also think high amounts of HGH can thicken skin not thin it, sure you get lower body fat but its covered by extra layers of skin.To me his back looks like GH bloat later in his career, he should have dropped it from his prep further out, he got bigger but not better like many from the insulin age.

[pellius]

I have the same preoccupation with sucking cocks that you have with underage girls ..

You have any concrete proof of that charge? People resort to that even though they know it's a lie and has been proven to be a lie simply because they are getting owned and have nothing left but to spread a discredited lie. I have concrete proof of your obsession with men, and especially me, sucking cocks right here on this thread. Your phaggotry has been abundantly confirmed by your own words.

Second warning about a thread that was dismissed and the subject now banned. But keep going and it will be bye-bye "Flex"acon.

[pellius]

Omg Markus Ruhl looks so much wider than Evan wtf

Be careful saying anything positive about Markus. "Flexacon" will accused you of "man love", a crush, ball licking, fan boy.... all while sucking his own cock.

[pamith]

Be careful saying anything positive about Markus. "Flexacon" will accused you of "man love", a crush, ball licking, fan boy.... all while sucking his own cock.

Yeah, but at least Evan's arms are slightly bigger than Markus, that counts for something

[Flexacon]

You have any concrete proof of that charge? People resort to that even though they know it's a lie and has been proven to be a lie simply because they are getting owned and have nothing left but to spread a discredited lie. I have concrete proof of your obsession with men, and especially me, sucking cocks right here on this thread. Your phaggotry has been abundantly confirmed by your own words.

Second warning about a thread that was dismissed and the subject now banned. But keep going and it will be bye-bye "Flex"acon.

Let's keep the E-threats to a minimum as you are way way overexposed in this area, stick to the trash talking.

[Flexacon]

Ruhl at that years night of champions was immense, i stand by what i said earlier, off season insulin use and higher off season bodyweights thickened his skin folds, plus tolerance to diuretics, have seen plenty of guys contest ready everywhere besides their backs, someone like Dorian would have simply prepared over a longer period, the back was simply where it came off him last. Another 4 to 8 weeks contest prep would have brought it down.

I sometimes also think high amounts of HGH can thicken skin not thin it, sure you get lower body fat but its covered by extra layers of skin.To me his back looks like GH bloat later in his career, he should have dropped it from his prep further out, he got bigger but not better like many from the insulin age.

I'll admit to Ruhl being is in better shape in 2009 than I'm making out as I'm just trolling pellius, but you do realise that in a round about way you've pretty much said he could have dieted harder and dropped a bit more fat.

Jay and Branch are good example of guys with that extra skin you're talking about, but that ends up looking like wrinkles when they are in really good contest condition. Ruhl didn't really have have much of that going on. His back looked more fat/puffy.

[Flexacon]

Jay at pre judging and finals after dropping some more water. You can see he tightened up and his back wrinkles increase!

[Kwon]

Omg Markus Ruhl looks so much wider than Evan wtf

Not many were wider than Ruhl back in the day

[Bevo]

Shawn Ray

[Van_Bilderass]

I have to disagree with you there completly. You seem to lack muscle anatomy understanding.

That part you see on the lover back there having that wavy effect is the thoracolumbar fascia. It inserts in the spine, so naturally it will not be straight, but "wavy" as you see there

I'm certainly not an anatomy expert. Did you know this or did you just look it up after reading this thread?
I did not remember exactly what's going on there, though I have heard of that before. I've seen discussions on forums a long time ago about this and how it's fascia, not muscle causing this "wavy" effect. Some genetically have more of this, others don't get the Christmas Tree even at similar fat levels.

[Van_Bilderass]

Jay at pre judging and finals after dropping some more water. You can see he tightened up and his back wrinkles increase!

I'd argue that it's impossible to tell which pic is which here, predjudging or finals or which is dryer. Are you saying the pic on the right is more dry? Do you think Jay weighs less in that pic? Now even if there was a difference, which I can't really see, and it's certainly not obvious, what if Jay increased his hydration and it looked slightly better? Could it be Jay is simply chrunching a bit more in the second pic, making more skin wrinkles appear - shot might have been taken before fully into the pose in the first one. And etc.

It would be interesting if 10 IFBB judges were shown these 2 pics without comment and were asked which one looks better. I don't think all would answer the same.

[pellius]

Let's keep the E-threats to a minimum as you are way way overexposed in this area, stick to the trash talking.

Nope. You are the one going to a particularly evil direction. The fact that you would so easily resort to such a reprehensible level over a difference of opinon on a bodybuilder. A bodybuilder's fat percentage. A difference that I was happy to discuss and didn't take personally as it is trivial but pertinent to the content of this site. You obviously did take it personally and quickly resorted to name calling even though I repeated said I didn't want to take it to go in that directly. It was an honest disagreement in opinion. Opinion. Something I made crystal clear. Why would what another person's opinion, opinion on someone's fat percentage, bother you so much that you felt a need to attack me personally. We can argue our points back and forth but to feel personally offended? Is that how small minded you are?

 Nothing is worse than for a man to be a pedophile. I would rather be accused of being a murdered. That thread you are referring to has been discredited, I was vindicated, it was deemed a closed and banned subject. The fact that you would resort to this extent shows your character. Flexacon, we are taking about a bodybuilder. A bodybuilder's fat level. Is it really that important and personal to you that you take something so trivial so personally that you would attack another person and then make obvious implied remarks that I am a pedophile? Something even ND, who started the whole thing taking my words out of context that he cherry picked admitted he didn't believe.

Because you freely make these obscene veiled accusation behind a computer you think you are safe. Because if you said that to my face I would beat the living shit out of you. But this is something I am not going to let pass. A pedophile is a unique type of evil perverison. That's why I don't like equating it to underage sex. Teenagers, postpubescent sex with an adult. It diminishes the true evil of pedophilia. To compare a 14-15 year having sex to a 5-8 year old diminishes it's perversion and attempts to normalize it as what is trying to be done now by the Left. Are you part of the movement?

So I'm not going to put up with it. I had to endure the worse of the worse stigma for almost five years. New members to this board that didn't know the back story just knew Pellius as the pedophile. It followed me around for five years. Everybody that didn't like me jumped on the band wagon even though they knew it wasn't true. Prepetrating the scandalous lie. No more! This crosses the line. It crosses the line and has been said so specifically by Ron, the mods, and agreed to by the majority of this board. People have been banned and will continue to be banned because they just can't resist this particularly depraved topic. What do you think happened to True Adonis and Escrima?

I give ample warnings, as I have here, and this is the final one, before I do everything I can to ensure the mods enforce their own rules and ban you.

You started this fight. And it began and will end with you and I will go back and forth with you for the rest of my life on this board as long as you want to pursue this. That you can be sure of. But there is a line that won't be crossed.

The pedo stuff and underage stuff is just creepy. Stop it. If that's the kind of topics you want to discuss find another forum. Violators will be warned/banned at a moderators discretion. If you're going to whine about it, fuck off, don't want to hear it.  Before anyone brings up free speech, check under my avatar, that is a direct quote.
We're here to have fun, bust some balls and maybe talk a little bodybuilding here and there.

Any questions?

[Flexacon]

I give ample warnings, as I have here, and this is the final one, before I do everything I can to ensure the mods enforce their own rules and ban you.

You started this fight. And it began and will end with you and I will go back and forth with you for the rest of my life on this board as long as you want to pursue this. That you can be sure of. But there is a line that won't be crossed.

What did I tell you about walls of texts.

Let's move this along. Let's see you get me banned. How long do you need?