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Re: Evan Centopani - Shoulder Workout - Current condition
« Reply #100 on: September 18, 2020, 02:49:49 AM »
What did I tell you about walls of texts.

Let's move this along. Let's see you get me banned. How long do you need?

Three strikes. Like I said, that was my final warning so that there is no doubt. You think that just because you've been here forever you are immune. TrueAdonis thought the same thing.

Disagreeing with my opinion on someone's bodyfat level? You really think it's worth it?

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Re: Evan Centopani - Shoulder Workout - Current condition
« Reply #101 on: September 18, 2020, 03:07:20 AM »
Three strikes. Like I said, that was my final warning so that there is no doubt. You think that just because you've been here forever you are immune. TrueAdonis thought the same thing.

Disagreeing with my opinion on someone's bodyfat level? You really think it's worth it?

So you're pretty much a windbag that can't do shit. Got it

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Re: Evan Centopani - Shoulder Workout - Current condition
« Reply #102 on: September 18, 2020, 03:51:32 AM »
So you're pretty much a windbag that can't do shit. Got it

OK, if that's what you want to think. Everybody has their opinions. I can handle it.

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Re: Evan Centopani - Shoulder Workout - Current condition
« Reply #103 on: September 18, 2020, 03:52:50 AM »
I'm certainly not an anatomy expert. Did you know this or did you just look it up after reading this thread? :D
I did not remember exactly what's going on there, though I have heard of that before. I've seen discussions on forums a long time ago about this and how it's fascia, not muscle causing this "wavy" effect. Some genetically have more of this, others don't get the Christmas Tree even at similar fat levels.
Ofcourse, I don't have the all the latin names memorized I looked that up. But I do understand how most muscles inserts and pulls becuase I have been interested in muscle anatomy in younger years and have done several courses involving anatomy.

About how some get the christmas tree and others don't it has more to do with lat development, insertions and bodyfat distribution. For example bodybuilders like Dorian, Flex and Shawn Ray had really thick lat development and naturally it will be more pronounced and defined.

Where as someone Like Dennis Wolf had very poor lat development and high insertions and it can hardly even be seen.

Also it seems to be common that bodybuilders in later years tears or pulls their lover lats. I remember from what I could tell Cutler tore or strained his lat I believe because at some point he had no xmas tree anymore, but he did have it earlier like before 03-04 or so.

Example of Jay's pulled lat before and after. Left side lat the most, but right side has pulled up some aswell:





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Re: Evan Centopani - Shoulder Workout - Current condition
« Reply #104 on: September 18, 2020, 05:29:22 AM »
I'd argue that it's impossible to tell which pic is which here, predjudging or finals or which is dryer. Are you saying the pic on the right is more dry? Do you think Jay weighs less in that pic? Now even if there was a difference, which I can't really see, and it's certainly not obvious, what if Jay increased his hydration and it looked slightly better? Could it be Jay is simply chrunching a bit more in the second pic, making more skin wrinkles appear - shot might have been taken before fully into the pose in the first one. And etc.

It would be interesting if 10 IFBB judges were shown these 2 pics without comment and were asked which one looks better. I don't think all would answer the same.

Jay and the guy helping him with his prep have talked about dropping water and tightening up. You can see more detail in his upper back and outer quads in finals pic.

There is a thread poll with a set of pictures comparing more prejudging and finals pics of Jay on another forum, and 95% of voters had him looking better at finals.

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Re: Evan Centopani - Shoulder Workout - Current condition
« Reply #105 on: September 18, 2020, 05:31:26 AM »
OK, if that's what you want to think. Everybody has their opinions. I can handle it.

I'll take that as your resignation. Carry on faillius

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Re: Evan Centopani - Shoulder Workout - Current condition
« Reply #106 on: September 19, 2020, 07:38:18 PM »
I'll take that as your resignation. Carry on faillius

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