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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #50 on: September 23, 2020, 12:43:25 AM »
Special Ed interviews 07 and 08





Sad to see his state here. Looks like he has ascites, but I'm not an expert. Most likely busted veins from IV drug use too.

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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #51 on: September 23, 2020, 02:18:42 AM »
Special Ed interviews 07 and 08








Hmmm from those 2 Clips I’d guess they were Both “Special”
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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2020, 10:07:37 AM »
Prior to that stents for blocked arteries, then kidney failure (was on dialysis), then liver cancer.

The use of steroids can cause hepatocellular carcinomas. More studies are showing this trend.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4461943/

That was a fascinating paper - thanks Walter

He seems to have left it a long time before finally going to the ER.  A liver 3 x regular size plus yellow skin is not something most could ignore/live with(!)

Also, was it me or did his cycle seem sort of medium (ish) for a Pro?  Is 8-10 D-bol a day a lot?  (I never did orals)

"He self-administered the following AAS from 2011 to 2012 in cycles of 4 weeks with rest periods of several weeks between the cycles:

nandrolone decanoate (400 mg/week)
sustanon (750 mg/week)
methandienone (280–350 mg/week)
stanozolol (50 mg/day for 1 month)
and human growth hormone (4 IE/day for 3 month)"
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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #53 on: September 23, 2020, 11:04:38 AM »
What stopped Derek Anthony from spitting in Goodrum's face more than once?

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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #54 on: September 23, 2020, 11:13:42 AM »

Also, was it me or did his cycle seem sort of medium (ish) for a Pro?  Is 8-10 D-bol a day a lot?  (I never did orals)

"He self-administered the following AAS from 2011 to 2012 in cycles of 4 weeks with rest periods of several weeks between the cycles:

nandrolone decanoate (400 mg/week)
sustanon (750 mg/week)
methandienone (280–350 mg/week)
stanozolol (50 mg/day for 1 month)
and human growth hormone (4 IE/day for 3 month)"

I'd put this as low middle in terms of dosing. I also don't believe the 4 wks on, bunch of weeks off, I think he just didn't want to sound like a drug pig to the doctors.

Edit - On the Dianabol, I'd consider 50-100mg/day pretty average now a days.

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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #55 on: September 23, 2020, 11:36:19 AM »
What stopped Derek Anthony from spitting in Goodrum's face more than once?

Kielbasa envy. That's what.

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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #56 on: September 23, 2020, 11:45:47 AM »

Also, was it me or did his cycle seem sort of medium (ish) for a Pro?  Is 8-10 D-bol a day a lot? (I never did orals)


All depends. If they are 10 mg pills its not too crazy (if done for short 4-week cycle).
If they are 50 mg pills, then yes, 500 mg's a day of D-Bol will fry a liver pretty quickly.


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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #57 on: September 23, 2020, 11:48:08 AM »
I guess we're lucky the guy passed away before Instagram-Stories became a thing... :-X


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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #58 on: September 23, 2020, 12:07:05 PM »
What stopped him ??

Poor Genetics for bodybuilding
Poor Genetic tolerance to Drugs all types
Lazy
Doing Queer stuff
Being a Twat
Not Training appropriately
Oil usage
Etc Etc Etc
Oh &

Death !!!

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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #59 on: September 23, 2020, 12:24:59 PM »
I'd put this as low middle in terms of dosing. I also don't believe the 4 wks on, bunch of weeks off, I think he just didn't want to sound like a drug pig to the doctors.

Edit - On the Dianabol, I'd consider 50-100mg/day pretty average now a days.

Thanks BB - I thought the same about the 'drug pig' thing LOL

All depends. If they are 10 mg pills its not too crazy (if done for short 4-week cycle).
If they are 50 mg pills, then yes, 500 mg's a day of D-Bol will fry a liver pretty quickly.


Jesus - I didn't even realise you can get 50mg - they were always 5mg when I saw them so I thought 8-10/day = 280-350/week in his cycle

Thanks for bringing me into the 21st Century!  8)
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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #60 on: September 23, 2020, 07:00:43 PM »
What stopped him ??

Poor Genetics for bodybuilding
Poor Genetic tolerance to Drugs all types
Lazy
Doing Queer stuff
Being a Twat
Not Training appropriately
Oil usage
Etc Etc Etc
Oh &

Death !!!

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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #61 on: September 23, 2020, 08:23:33 PM »
Even owning Squadfather (who is still alive) wasn't enough to overcome all these roadblocks.

he didn't own him, alex23 gave him squad's info

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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #62 on: September 23, 2020, 09:18:03 PM »
That was a fascinating paper - thanks Walter

He seems to have left it a long time before finally going to the ER.  A liver 3 x regular size plus yellow skin is not something most could ignore/live with(!)

Also, was it me or did his cycle seem sort of medium (ish) for a Pro?  Is 8-10 D-bol a day a lot?  (I never did orals)

"He self-administered the following AAS from 2011 to 2012 in cycles of 4 weeks with rest periods of several weeks between the cycles:

nandrolone decanoate (400 mg/week)
sustanon (750 mg/week)
methandienone (280–350 mg/week)
stanozolol (50 mg/day for 1 month)
and human growth hormone (4 IE/day for 3 month)"

When it comes to these types of hepatic tumors it's not necessarily dosage related. The liver is a major site for hormone metabolism. These tumors are usually tied to synthetic estrogen but androgens can also play a roll so more bodybuilders are being looked at. We had two bodybuilders with liver tumors in the southern area of my tiny populated state. One had a football size benign tumor which burst and another with a full blown carcinoma requiring resection and chemo. He survived the liver cancer only to succumb to lymphoma at 34.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17261770/

I usually just pick one study to use as an example but if you look at the references they on the studies they often contain up to 30+. For example; I have shown how BMI has become is a major contributing factor to kidney scarring and failure in bodybuilders (just like fat people). Most are in denial in regards to this. Add the toxic compounds, the high protein intake and, well you know the outcome.

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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #63 on: September 24, 2020, 05:09:39 AM »
Wasn't it the chemo that killed him quicker?

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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #64 on: September 24, 2020, 08:29:31 AM »
How much would Prime pay to get under Derek’s towel

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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #65 on: September 24, 2020, 08:55:21 AM »
As big as an annoying asshole as Derek Anthony was, he was a Getbigger to the end, posting right up until death. He had his priorities straight, which was the only part about him straight.

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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #66 on: September 24, 2020, 09:00:04 AM »
When it comes to these types of hepatic tumors it's not necessarily dosage related. The liver is a major site for hormone metabolism. These tumors are usually tied to synthetic estrogen but androgens can also play a roll so more bodybuilders are being looked at. We had two bodybuilders with liver tumors in the southern area of my tiny populated state. One had a football size benign tumor which burst and another with a full blown carcinoma requiring resection and chemo. He survived the liver cancer only to succumb to lymphoma at 34.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17261770/

I usually just pick one study to use as an example but if you look at the references they on the studies they often contain up to 30+. For example; I have shown how BMI has become is a major contributing factor to kidney scarring and failure in bodybuilders (just like fat people). Most are in denial in regards to this. Add the toxic compounds, the high protein intake and, well you know the outcome.

Such a high risk for so little reward. Vanity knows no bounds. It sure isn't for the money.

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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #67 on: September 24, 2020, 09:52:33 AM »
Such a high risk for so little reward. Vanity knows no bounds. It sure isn't for the money.

This is true.  Down to the bitter end,  Derek was still trying to remain relevant.  I think he realized at the end he had no "legacy" and no importance in the "industry" outside of being a GetBig punching bag that triggered his insecure meltdowns every time he looked at this board. 

I'm not trying to attack him or dismiss his death, but from what I have seen this guy was a waste of oxygen from the get-go. 

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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #68 on: September 24, 2020, 12:39:15 PM »
This is true.  Down to the bitter end,  Derek was still trying to remain relevant.  I think he realized at the end he had no "legacy" and no importance in the "industry" outside of being a GetBig punching bag that triggered his insecure meltdowns every time he looked at this board. 

I'm not trying to attack him or dismiss his death, but from what I have seen this guy was a waste of oxygen from the get-go.
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That's sad.  I would think from Derek's position, that he saw himself as a bodybuilder who came close to turning pro, or at least made it to the top of the amateur level, and thought of himself as someone who could turn pro.  Maybe, as you said, towards the end of his life, he realized that he did not have a bodybuilding legacy.

Does anyone know exactly what led to Derek's initial poor health?  Was it synthol being processed by his kidneys?

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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #69 on: September 27, 2020, 04:48:05 PM »
Prior to that stents for blocked arteries, then kidney failure (was on dialysis), then liver cancer.

The use of steroids can cause hepatocellular carcinomas. More studies are showing this trend.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4461943/
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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #70 on: September 27, 2020, 05:34:54 PM »

Hmmm from those 2 Clips I’d guess they were Both “Special”
No doubt opinions Vary.  🤣😂🤣😂🤣

The decline from 07-08 was rapid....

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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #71 on: September 27, 2020, 05:51:37 PM »
Stay natty my brothas

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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #72 on: September 28, 2020, 03:36:07 AM »
Stay natty my brothas
Yep, no problems.

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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #73 on: September 28, 2020, 05:03:09 AM »
Watching those videos makes me miss Derek more. He was such a character with a big heart. I feel so sad.

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Re: What stopped Derek Anthony from going pro?
« Reply #74 on: September 28, 2020, 05:43:16 AM »
He was only 26 in that clip from 08.