Author Topic: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.  (Read 4260 times)

ziballz

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 380
Doesn't mention what exactly is the issue but let's hope he is ok

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CF4kf9vh0D0/?igshid=smk5bbomsfe9


TheGrinch

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 5029
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2020, 08:55:37 AM »
blood pressure of pease

B R

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1087
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2020, 09:48:11 AM »
Pre-emptive PIP of peace.

Kwon

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 50248
  • Team Hairy Chest Henda
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2020, 09:53:55 AM »
"HOSS" of Peace!

Q

usmcdevildoc

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 558
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2020, 11:08:39 AM »
Pre-emptive PIP of peace.

Hope he doesn't have one of those 'dangerous doctors'!! ;D

Taffin

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 16181
  • Training out my gay penor...
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2020, 11:13:45 AM »
It's either some kind of previously undiagnosed congenital/genetic issue  ::)  or chronic constipation from those 20,000 Calorie challenges  :-X
T

Van_Bilderass

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 15273
  • "Don't Try"
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2020, 11:16:38 AM »
Pretty sure it's kidneys.

Maybe he's wearing those high socks for a reason.

Taffin

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 16181
  • Training out my gay penor...
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2020, 12:07:02 PM »
Pretty sure it's kidneys.

Maybe he's wearing those high socks for a reason.


Gotcha - those are pressure stockings preventing fluid buildup causing the 'cankles of peace'... makes sense
T

pamith

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 8585
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2020, 12:17:14 PM »
This is such a silly game, gosh, take a ton of steroids for years and play Russian roulette with their health, smh

Coach is Back!

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 59954
  • It’s All Bullshit
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2020, 12:50:55 PM »
Pretty sure it's kidneys.

Maybe he's wearing those high socks for a reason.

This. But I don’t see any signs of swelling anywhere. I never did have any swelling either or any symptoms, it was all caught through blood work eGFR, Creatnine, BUN, albumin. I’m sure the Docs he’s working with are very familiar with bodybuilders and if they’re telling him to pull out then his numbers must be waaaay off.


Body-Buildah

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 4959
  • Creepy Joe Touches Kids
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2020, 12:55:22 PM »
Fouad normally has shitty bloods when using gear, hes in his 40s now, hitting it hard, probably not the best thing for those who are affected more with side effects, etc.
(Some people are much more sensitive to the drugs "affects").

Van_Bilderass

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 15273
  • "Don't Try"
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2020, 02:25:39 PM »
This. But I don’t see any signs of swelling anywhere. I never did have any swelling either or any symptoms, it was all caught through blood work eGFR, Creatnine, BUN, albumin. I’m sure the Docs he’s working with are very familiar with bodybuilders and if they’re telling him to pull out then his numbers must be waaaay off.


Yeah he looks dry, not bloated. I have no idea what his docs are familiar with but I'd guess it's hard to say how dangerous the situation is just by looking at numbers. Hard to know if it's something you could bounce back from or possibly go into acute kidney failure in the worst case scenario. I mean he ran it by Meadows, Ben Chow etc. Incidentally Chow said he had some kidney damage from previous prep and he ran into some trouble again a few weeks back but he decided to do his show anyway - competed today.


Gotcha - those are pressure stockings preventing fluid buildup causing the 'cankles of peace'... makes sense

They don't look like compression socks though, thought he might be hiding some swelling or whatever.

Walter Sobchak

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 13615
  • HANKINS IS A FUCKING LIAR & QUITTER
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2020, 02:46:07 PM »
Call the police...someone has stolen that man’s lats.

Flexacon

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 8115
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2020, 02:49:15 PM »
He had crazy high blood pressure a while back, so it could be a return of that.

Coach is Back!

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 59954
  • It’s All Bullshit
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2020, 04:27:41 PM »
He had crazy high blood pressure a while back, so it could be a return of that.

If untreated that’s the biggest contributor to kidney damage along with pain meds, constant high protein diets, high caffeine intake, PEDs (at least I’m my case) was the least of the problems

The Scott

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 21626
  • I'm a victim of soicumcision!!
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2020, 04:29:57 PM »
Given all the shit he pumps into himself he obviously doesn't care about his health or life so why should any of us?  Fuck the idiot. His physique ain't that good.  Is it better than mine?

Yeah, but that's damning the  dwarf with faint praise. ;D

oldschoolfan

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 5797
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2020, 05:03:12 PM »
Fuck him he is a goat fucker and a idiot

ESFitness

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 10176
  • i win.
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2020, 06:27:01 PM »
Yeah he looks dry, not bloated. I have no idea what his docs are familiar with but I'd guess it's hard to say how dangerous the situation is just by looking at numbers. Hard to know if it's something you could bounce back from or possibly go into acute kidney failure in the worst case scenario. I mean he ran it by Meadows, Ben Chow etc. Incidentally Chow said he had some kidney damage from previous prep and he ran into some trouble again a few weeks back but he decided to do his show anyway - competed today.

They don't look like compression socks though, thought he might be hiding some swelling or whatever.

i used to believe kidney failure wasn't reversible, and once you damage them they're fucked... until i had kidney damage/kidney injury, and they come back.

fouad looks dry in the pic and i doubt those are compression socks (i know, i have a bunch of pair lol) and generally they go over the calve at least (if not the whole thigh, like most mine... they feel great btw. try'em lol). he doesn't look like he'd be holding water in the ankles anyways in the pic. there were pics of tom prince when he did thtat last Ironman and showed up like 270lbs and legs looked like bowling

Coffeed

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2938
  • Athletes representative for Grifted Nutrition.
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2020, 06:36:14 PM »
Genetic predisposition to side effects.

WalterWhite

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 8648
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2020, 07:11:39 PM »
If untreated that’s the biggest contributor to kidney damage along with pain meds, constant high protein diets, high caffeine intake, PEDs (at least I’m my case) was the least of the problems

You said the doc sent you this exact study in another thread I posted it in. Saying steroids were the lowest contributing factor makes little sense. If your BMI went up along with blood pressure while on peds - they had a direct effect. Did you have a biopsy?

https://jasn.asnjournals.org/content/21/1/163

"studies suggest that androgens may exert a direct toxic effect on glomerular cells, leading to mesangial matrix accumulation and podocyte depletion independent of structural-functional adaptations."

sway

  • Getbig II
  • **
  • Posts: 268
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2020, 07:48:02 PM »
Wasnt going to place well at all anyway. I’m not even sure why he was doing it in the first place. His body has been betraying him for about the last five years. Would’ve been embarrassing to be out of the top 10 in a small show.

harmankardon1

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 3097
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2020, 08:21:51 PM »
His legs look down here, not sure if he was flat from cardio or it's the angle though...

He should retire, if the kidneys and bp are flaring up its time to hang up the thong.

tres_taco_combo

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 5246
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2020, 08:28:23 PM »
His legs look down here, not sure if he was flat from cardio or it's the angle though...

He should retire, if the kidneys and bp are flaring up its time to hang up the thong.

problem:

he has a youtube channel he needs to promote and make content for

Coach is Back!

  • Competitors
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 59954
  • It’s All Bullshit
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2020, 09:11:16 PM »
You said the doc sent you this exact study in another thread I posted it in. Saying steroids were the lowest contributing factor makes little sense. If your BMI went up along with blood pressure while on peds - they had a direct effect. Did you have a biopsy?

https://jasn.asnjournals.org/content/21/1/163

"studies suggest that androgens may exert a direct toxic effect on glomerular cells, leading to mesangial matrix accumulation and podocyte depletion independent of structural-functional adaptations."

The ultrasound showed no atrophy in the Kidneys, bladder was normal, prostate was enlarged but normal for a man my age. Yes, he did send me that study but did also say that the peds were not the real cause. As I had said, it was more of everything else while not keeping my BP under control(high protein, 800mg ibuprofen or 2 Aleve everyday, pre-workout Supps, energy drinks) plus I took no orals. Maybe I misspoke but he did say that the peds were NOT the direct cause but didn’t help

harmankardon1

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 3097
Re: Fouad "Hoss"Abiad is pulling out of Chicago Pro for health reasons.
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2020, 09:45:53 PM »
problem:

he has a youtube channel he needs to promote and make content for

The channel is based around interviewing others mostly now is it not..

Also you don't need to compete to have a channel, The opposite really, he'd be better of spending his time working on the channel than prepping for a show he's not going to win.