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Re: U.S. Civil War 2020
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2020, 08:14:50 AM »
Good start, but you'll most likely need 10x that amount.  I'm up to 70K now.

damn 70k!! what does your gun collection look like??? its been a bitch to get 556 rounds in my part of the country... i also have 2 level 3 bulletproof vests... working on getting back ups for each weapon i have too...  got a hell of stock pile of food, water, and meds too..  I WILL NOT BE CAUGHT OFF GUARD EVER AGAIN!!!  im buying ammo every chance get, when its available.... i would like to get into making my own ammo.

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« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2020, 09:04:10 AM »
If you let your fight be inside 100 yards

It’s already over

Video game rounds don’t work

Go figure

That depends on how many threats you are talking about.

Video game rounds?   ::)   I've been shooting for 25 years bud. 

When the shit goes down, I won't be playing no game.

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« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2020, 09:20:06 AM »
damn 70k!! what does your gun collection look like??? its been a bitch to get 556 rounds in my part of the country... i also have 2 level 3 bulletproof vests... working on getting back ups for each weapon i have too...  got a hell of stock pile of food, water, and meds too..  I WILL NOT BE CAUGHT OFF GUARD EVER AGAIN!!!  im buying ammo every chance get, when its available.... i would like to get into making my own ammo.

12 and counting.  I have a few level 3A vests and plate carriers (stops 5.56 and 7.62).  Even so, if you get hit in the arm or leg with a 7.62, you're pretty much fucked.  I started buying ammo in bulk 10 years ago.  Good that you're aware and prepared.  Buying ammo by the case will save you some money, but you're going to be paying a pretty penny for it right now.  9mm Federal HST JHP (my fav 9mm rd) is averaging $1200-1500 a case... and that price is probably increasing even more as I type this. 

Even if a civil/race war does not happen, ammo has set a new price base and isn't coming back down to pre-covid levels ever again.  Pretty good investment.  IMO ammo will be worth more than silver or gold someday. 

Lots of ppl like to poke fun at "preppers", BUT it's much better to have all this stuff and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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Re: U.S. Civil War 2020
« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2020, 03:29:15 PM »
12 and counting.  I have a few level 3A vests and plate carriers (stops 5.56 and 7.62).  Even so, if you get hit in the arm or leg with a 7.62, you're pretty much fucked.  I started buying ammo in bulk 10 years ago.  Good that you're aware and prepared.  Buying ammo by the case will save you some money, but you're going to be paying a pretty penny for it right now.  9mm Federal HST JHP (my fav 9mm rd) is averaging $1200-1500 a case... and that price is probably increasing even more as I type this. 

Even if a civil/race war does not happen, ammo has set a new price base and isn't coming back down to pre-covid levels ever again. Pretty good investment.  IMO ammo will be worth more than silver or gold someday. 

Lots of ppl like to poke fun at "preppers", BUT it's much better to have all this stuff and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
I hear this every time people panic buy, it always comes back down when shit settles because the people don't "need" to buy ammo, so manufacturers lower prices to entice people to buy. It's like clockwork.
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« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2020, 03:32:20 PM »
I hear this every time people panic buy, it always comes back down when shit settles because the people don't "need" to buy ammo, so manufacturers lower prices to entice people to buy. It's like clockwork.

Okay my man.  Good luck.


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« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2020, 03:33:54 PM »
Okay my man.  Good luck.
Thanks little fella, appreciate the thoughts. 8)
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« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2020, 03:58:05 PM »
Thanks little fella, appreciate the thoughts. 8)

BTW, how's life in Commiefornia?  Are you a "prohibited person"?   
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Effective July 1, 2019, persons seeking to purchase or transfer ammunition will have to undergo an eligibility check, and be approved by the Department, prior to the sale or transfer, except as otherwise specified. Departmental approval shall occur electronically through a licensed ammunition vendor. Pursuant to Penal Code sections 30352 and 30370, the Department will determine that a person is eligible to purchase or transfer ammunition if they meet one of the following requirements:

1. The person has a current Certificate of Eligibility issued by the Department

2. The person’s information matches an entry in the Automated Firearms System (name, date of birth, current address, and driver license or other government identification) and does not fall within a class of persons who are prohibited from owning or possessing ammunition. The Department shall make this determination by cross-referencing the Prohibited Armed Persons file (also known as the Armed and Prohibited Persons System).

3. The person is not prohibited from purchasing or possessing ammunition. The Department determines eligibility based on a comprehensive review of its records (similar to a firearm eligibility check).

Please note: this eligibility check requires a manual review of records by a Department analyst. As such, the Department may take longer to respond with a determination as to eligibility. Response times may take several days. Persons will have the ability to check the status of their eligibility check through the Ammunition Eligibility Check Status and Information page (available July 1, 2019).

4. The person was approved by the Department to receive a firearm from the ammunition vendor, pursuant to Penal Code section 28220, if that vendor is a licensed firearm dealer, and the ammunition is delivered to the person in the same transaction as the firearm. In this scenario, the dealer will use the approved firearm eligibility check as the approval to purchase ammunition, and will submit the ammunition purchase to the Department during the delivery of the firearm.

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Re: U.S. Civil War 2020
« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2020, 05:16:28 PM »
BTW, how's life in Commiefornia?  Are you a "prohibited person"?   
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It's average. Being taxed to death out here and our commie governor is looking into reparations for slavery that CA was never involved in.
How's life in whatever state you reside?
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« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2020, 06:11:52 PM »
I hear this every time people panic buy, it always comes back down when shit settles because the people don't "need" to buy ammo, so manufacturers lower prices to entice people to buy. It's like clockwork.



Correct. I was where Mr. A is now in 2012, buying hand over fist. Still have it all of course.  :D


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« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2020, 06:15:58 PM »


Correct. I was where Mr. A is now in 2012, buying hand over fist. Still have it all of course.  :D



All of my guns were lost in a tragic boating accident.

If the police ever needed to find one, they would have to search in Lake Michigan

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« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2020, 06:21:17 PM »
All of my guns were lost in a tragic boating accident.

If the police ever needed to find one, they would have to search in Lake Michigan



Sorry for your loss. I had that happen to my gold and silver once.  ;)

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« Reply #36 on: October 06, 2020, 06:34:03 PM »
It's average. Being taxed to death out here and our commie governor is looking into reparations for slavery that CA was never involved in.
How's life in whatever state you reside?

Gruesome Newsome is a total POS.  I don't know how anyone can stand living in Cali these days.    I was there for 10 years and when Arnie was governor.  I got out in 2009, thank god. 

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« Reply #37 on: October 06, 2020, 10:15:34 PM »
12 and counting.  I have a few level 3A vests and plate carriers (stops 5.56 and 7.62).  Even so, if you get hit in the arm or leg with a 7.62, you're pretty much fucked.  I started buying ammo in bulk 10 years ago.  Good that you're aware and prepared.  Buying ammo by the case will save you some money, but you're going to be paying a pretty penny for it right now.  9mm Federal HST JHP (my fav 9mm rd) is averaging $1200-1500 a case... and that price is probably increasing even more as I type this. 

Even if a civil/race war does not happen, ammo has set a new price base and isn't coming back down to pre-covid levels ever again.  Pretty good investment.  IMO ammo will be worth more than silver or gold someday. 

Lots of ppl like to poke fun at "preppers", BUT it's much better to have all this stuff and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
I'm a Getbigger and can kill 100 criminals with 100 bullets. Therefore I only have about 250 rounds in the house. If I need more I will just "TAKE IT!"


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« Reply #38 on: October 06, 2020, 10:44:19 PM »
If you let your fight be inside 100 yards

It’s already over

Video game rounds don’t work

Go figure

What's the distance between the street/sidewalk and a person's business front or there house?

During the LA riots when I lived in Inglewood, CA, about 85% Black and the rest Mexicans, they were out on the street rioting, breaking into homes, and setting fires.
They bypassed my apartment complex because we were stationed out front with our rifles and handguns. No shots were fired. The rioters were just out there on the sidewalk. Maybe about 15 yards away. A 100 yards from where I was sitting would take me across the sidewalk, across a 4 lane street, and well into the other neighborhood.

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« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2020, 10:45:28 PM »
12 and counting.  I have a few level 3A vests and plate carriers (stops 5.56 and 7.62).  Even so, if you get hit in the arm or leg with a 7.62, you're pretty much fucked.  I started buying ammo in bulk 10 years ago.  Good that you're aware and prepared.  Buying ammo by the case will save you some money, but you're going to be paying a pretty penny for it right now.  9mm Federal HST JHP (my fav 9mm rd) is averaging $1200-1500 a case... and that price is probably increasing even more as I type this. 

Even if a civil/race war does not happen, ammo has set a new price base and isn't coming back down to pre-covid levels ever again.  Pretty good investment.  IMO ammo will be worth more than silver or gold someday. 

Lots of ppl like to poke fun at "preppers", BUT it's much better to have all this stuff and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

How many guns can you shoot at one time?

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« Reply #40 on: October 07, 2020, 03:37:39 AM »
How many guns can you shoot at one time?

Is this a trick question? - lol

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« Reply #41 on: October 07, 2020, 03:48:53 AM »
12 and counting.  I have a few level 3A vests and plate carriers (stops 5.56 and 7.62).  Even so, if you get hit in the arm or leg with a 7.62, you're pretty much fucked.  I started buying ammo in bulk 10 years ago.  Good that you're aware and prepared.  Buying ammo by the case will save you some money, but you're going to be paying a pretty penny for it right now.  9mm Federal HST JHP (my fav 9mm rd) is averaging $1200-1500 a case... and that price is probably increasing even more as I type this. 

Even if a civil/race war does not happen, ammo has set a new price base and isn't coming back down to pre-covid levels ever again.  Pretty good investment.  IMO ammo will be worth more than silver or gold someday. 

Lots of ppl like to poke fun at "preppers", BUT it's much better to have all this stuff and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

Always better to be prepared.


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« Reply #42 on: October 07, 2020, 04:25:07 AM »
How many guns can you shoot at one time?

different situations call for different weapons...i think thats what youre getting at... i wouldnt use my ar inside my home, id use a shotgun w buckshot or a pistol... i would use my mossberg 590(small pistol grip 12g, intimidating little fucker) w rubber bullets for trespassers outside the home ( gotta wait until the come inside in my state to kill them).... my wife carries a small 380 in her purse.. there is a gun for every situation!!

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« Reply #43 on: October 07, 2020, 04:32:57 AM »

Lots of ppl like to poke fun at "preppers", BUT it's much better to have all this stuff and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

This.

I've been stocking up since April

Bought a brand new Smith and Wesson 40 caliber and even got my daughter learning to shoot.

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« Reply #44 on: October 07, 2020, 04:56:14 AM »
This.

I've been stocking up since April

Bought a brand new Smith and Wesson 40 caliber and even got my daughter learning to shoot.

Hope you will stay safe and not be attacked or homeinvaded by the Libs.
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« Reply #45 on: October 07, 2020, 03:55:51 PM »
How many guns can you shoot at one time?
I hear and see people say this all the time. This is a dumb question, nobody buys multiple guns so they can shoot them at the same time. How many cars can you drive at once?
How many pairs of pants can you wear at once?
How many forks can you use at once?
You're smarter than that, octollius.
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« Reply #46 on: October 08, 2020, 02:42:11 AM »
Is this a trick question? - lol

Kind of. People often think that someone is more dangerous and more lethal if they have a lot of guns and a lot of ammunition. I've never know anybody that could shoot more than one gun at a time competently and I use to compete in IDPA and USPSA league. It does make sense to have more than one gun handy in a fire fight. During the riots I had an 870 loaded with bird shot which I would use first as a warning. Hopefully, actually firing at someone and have them feel the sting of bird shot on their legs doesn't deter them then the Ruger Mini 14 which shoots the .223 with an after market 30 round mag and about 3 spare ones. Also, a Glock 19 in a hip holster with two additional 17 round mags. Fortunately, no shots were fired. I felt the ammo and firearms I had immediately on hand was more than enough for the urban riot presented. I probably had less than a thousand rounds total on hand in my closet. I would never keep or want to keep 70,000 rounds at my house. It would take me forever to go through that many rounds and I don't like to have ammo just sitting for years and years. And I reloaded my own practice ammo on a Dillion Precision. Assuming you are a horrible shot and it takes you 10 rounds to put someone down that would mean you have enough ammo to kill 7,000 people. There's a point of diminishing returns but if it makes you feel good and you have the space and not worried about ever having a fire in your place and as long as I'm not your neighbor it's none of my business.

My brother who just recently retired as a colonol spending his life in the military and serving three tours where he actually participated in fire fights in a real war told me that though he couldn't tell me exactly how many shots he fired in his entire 30 year career both in training and in war it was nowhere near 70,000 rounds.

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« Reply #47 on: October 08, 2020, 02:52:18 AM »
I hear and see people say this all the time. This is a dumb question, nobody buys multiple guns so they can shoot them at the same time. How many cars can you drive at once?
How many pairs of pants can you wear at once?
How many forks can you use at once?
You're smarter than that, octollius.

No, as explained in my previous posts. The vibe I get is that they are bragging how well armed they are and try to come across as somehow being a badass. Tons of guns, tens of thousands of rounds of ammo, bullet-proof vests, home made explosives ,,,, like they are warriors when in fact most have never served and if they have it's been in non-combat roles. Personally, I would be more circumspect with my arsenal. It's always better in life to keep a low profile especially in this area. You never know suspicious you may raise and getting extra attention.

I'm a gun collector and my "collection" is only limited by my budget but I would only share this with fellow collectors or those within the gun world. Just like an intelligent bber would only share his "cycles" with fellow bbers that are in that particular circle.

But you make a good point and calling this out requires some clarification.

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« Reply #48 on: October 08, 2020, 05:35:32 AM »
No, as explained in my previous posts. The vibe I get is that they are bragging how well armed they are and try to come across as somehow being a badass. Tons of guns, tens of thousands of rounds of ammo, bullet-proof vests, home made explosives ,,,, like they are warriors when in fact most have never served and if they have it's been in non-combat roles. Personally, I would be more circumspect with my arsenal. It's always better in life to keep a low profile especially in this area. You never know suspicious you may raise and getting extra attention.

I'm a gun collector and my "collection" is only limited by my budget but I would only share this with fellow collectors or those within the gun world. Just like an intelligent bber would only share his "cycles" with fellow bbers that are in that particular circle.

But you make a good point and calling this out requires some clarification.

i dont look at it as "being a badass" at all... being a badass is why i grew muscles... i have a business and a family that i one day may have to protect... all my guns are legal where I live... nothing to hide, yet.. in case you havent noticed genius, certain ammo is getting awfully hard to come by... and certain weapons are under scrutiny... think thats going to improve? god forbid, shooting starts, ya just gonna run to walmart and buy a box or too of shells real quick? since your such a decorated military combat vet, how many wars in the usa have been fought by men without combat experience? better yet, go ask your brother.. you say some dumb shit sometimes. dont kid yourself, those "bodybuiders" are lying to you too.

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« Reply #49 on: October 08, 2020, 05:38:41 AM »
No, as explained in my previous posts. The vibe I get is that they are bragging how well armed they are and try to come across as somehow being a badass. Tons of guns, tens of thousands of rounds of ammo, bullet-proof vests, home made explosives ,,,, like they are warriors when in fact most have never served and if they have it's been in non-combat roles. Personally, I would be more circumspect with my arsenal. It's always better in life to keep a low profile especially in this area. You never know suspicious you may raise and getting extra attention.

I'm a gun collector and my "collection" is only limited by my budget but I would only share this with fellow collectors or those within the gun world. Just like an intelligent bber would only share his "cycles" with fellow bbers that are in that particular circle.

But you make a good point and calling this out requires some clarification.

I don't think any of them are trying to be "badass" (we are too old for that these days) with their statements, they are just being truthful to their Getbig-peers.

We are brethren of sorts are we not? And this is the final bastion of truth on the Interweb where international brethren can shoot the shit with eachother without being censored, and being able to spreak from the heart, and be true.

Truthful, as in not hiding from Getbig with how much they've stockpiled just in case for an impending scenario.
We've all seen how society is devolving.
People would not have as much armament like that in the 80s, early 90s since time's were different then.


If the society looked differently, there wouldn't be any need for so much armament.

It's better to be prepared WHEN shit happens than not be prepared at all.



Sure, i could say, i only have a Walther PPK and six bullets, but how long would that last me in the long run?


I only have a Flintlock Musket and some gunpowder and three pellets. Yeah, that'll work! :D

Better be truthful.
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