Dennis Wolf new Video

[Matt]

Dennis is tiny now because his testicles don't produce anything on their own.  For years they were non-functional and now?  Atrophied.

This is pretty much the norm among top competitors of the last few decades.  Sheit...Even gym rants take more than the guys of the 60s and 70s.  Of course I have no real idea of what they typical idiot gym rat takes but why they take anything at all comes down to one word.

Ego.

Dennis was great and was robbed of the Olympia at least once or twice.  Hopefully he and his wife have a long and happy life together ahead of them as he seems a good man.

As for "booty"?  If that was her condemning my President? 
FTN.

LOL.

[Van_Bilderass]

Dennis is tiny now because his testicles don't produce anything on their own.  For years they were non-functional and now?  Atrophied.

This is pretty much the norm among top competitors of the last few decades.  Sheit...Even gym rants take more than the guys of the 60s and 70s.  Of course I have no real idea of what they typical idiot gym rat takes but why they take anything at all comes down to one word.

Ego.

He is "tiny" only compared to his own previous self. Compared to the average man he is still huge and very muscular. He does not have tanked T because he is on TRT with a little GH too mlst likely.

Every bodybuilder, even the 70s guys had/have impaired testosterone production. This is not something that only occurred recently with increasing doses - this condition occurs with any meaningful use of anabolics. Even if a guy recovered normal production, how much muscle is a normal average of maybe 35mg of test going to maintain compared to the 5,000mg it took to build it?

I think Dennis is small now mostly because of a neck injury and because he doesn't care about being huge. I think however that he is extremely lean compared to the average man, and his muscle mass is way higher.

There's really no way to win for a former top bb. Stay big and they are addicts. Downsize and they are weak mentally and physically.

[Bevo]

A lot of these guys retire and then start with the ugly tattoos.  wtf?

Don’t understand this either, mid life crisis and fad chasers

Dennis James and flex come to mind the most with their shittest of the shit tatts

[nzgs]

  I dont get it. These guys retire or whatever and then they dont even try to maintain any muscle. It doesnt make sense UNLESS the doc said it will kill them due to other health reasons. I mean most of us actually like to train. I know they cant stay at 250 plus pounds but they could stay around 200 with muscle.  maybe they are just burned out mentally and physically to workout but yet they still do videos or expos or whatever.  hell stallone looks awesome and hes in his 70s.

newsflash almost no one is a lean 200lbs without steroids.

[Matt]

  I dont get it. These guys retire or whatever and then they dont even try to maintain any muscle. It doesnt make sense UNLESS the doc said it will kill them due to other health reasons. I mean most of us actually like to train. I know they cant stay at 250 plus pounds but they could stay around 200 with muscle.  maybe they are just burned out mentally and physically to workout but yet they still do videos or expos or whatever.  hell stallone looks awesome and hes in his 70s.

Dennis and his downsizing is addressed here at the beginning of this video, in that discussion between Steve Kuclo and Dennis:

^ Although it isn't mentioned whether or not Dennis is now no longer bigbychoices, or if he is because he had no choices [possibly due to a neck injury that Getbig's own Van Bilderass alluded to above].  Or maybe he got small because someone give him the wrong advices.

I always find it funny when people say "He looks good - looks healthy", which I always find is code for saying that a retired pro got smaller. 

In 2012-2013 when Jay "shrunk" down to 260-lb [which is technically true, as his previous offseason weight was normally in the 295- to 310-lb range], he said that a lot of people were telling him that he was "getting lean", or that his shoulders were looking leaner than usual.  All veiled ways of telling him that he was getting smaller.

But in the end, it was good for Jay to do that, and to be honest, I think he should get even smaller than he is now.

Unfortunately with a lot of pros, when they competed at 5'9" and 255-lb, and were offseason at 300+, they have a tendency to look a bit strange sometimes when they are 250-lb at their normal offseason bodyfat.

In the case of Ronnie and Jay, they would look like they need to be inflated, even if at 240-lb.

Kevin Levrone was THE exception to that rule - he could be 180-200-220-240- or even almost 260-lb in contest condition at 5'9.5", and he looked good at all of those weights.  Whereas Ronnie Coleman at 250-lb has big hands, and other remnants of his former size, and just looks like he needs to fill out.  I think that factors in to some of the body dysmorphic issues that some retired pros have, which prevents them from downsizing as they probably should, for the sake of their health.

I think Generation Iron's new movie "Bigorexia" is out this month, sometime pretty soon.  It probably talks about this thought process, among recently retired pro bodybuilders.

[POB]

Looks like he needs to carb up on some cheese burgers again

[Matt]

Looks like he needs to carb up on some cheese burgers again

In-N-Out Burger?

[_bruce_]

Dug up some leaked documents from his doctor... paraphrasing...

"Small & useless - won't recover."

Why are doctors such assholes 

[a_pupil]

Dennis and his downsizing is addressed here at the beginning of this video, in that discussion between Steve Kuclo and Dennis:

^ Although it isn't mentioned whether or not Dennis is now no longer bigbychoices, or if he is because he had no choices [possibly due to a neck injury that Getbig's own Van Bilderass alluded to above].  Or maybe he got small because someone give him the wrong advices.

I always find it funny when people say "He looks good - looks healthy", which I always find is code for saying that a retired pro got smaller. 

In 2012-2013 when Jay "shrunk" down to 260-lb [which is technically true, as his previous offseason weight was normally in the 295- to 310-lb range], he said that a lot of people were telling him that he was "getting lean", or that his shoulders were looking leaner than usual.  All veiled ways of telling him that he was getting smaller.

But in the end, it was good for Jay to do that, and to be honest, I think he should get even smaller than he is now.

Unfortunately with a lot of pros, when they competed at 5'9" and 255-lb, and were offseason at 300+, they have a tendency to look a bit strange sometimes when they are 250-lb at their normal offseason bodyfat.

In the case of Ronnie and Jay, they would look like they need to be inflated, even if at 240-lb.

Kevin Levrone was THE exception to that rule - he could be 180-200-220-240- or even almost 260-lb in contest condition at 5'9.5", and he looked good at all of those weights.  Whereas Ronnie Coleman at 250-lb has big hands, and other remnants of his former size, and just looks like he needs to fill out.  I think that factors in to some of the body dysmorphic issues that some retired pros have, which prevents them from downsizing as they probably should, for the sake of their health.

I think Generation Iron's new movie "Bigorexia" is out this month, sometime pretty soon.  It probably talks about this thought process, among recently retired pro bodybuilders.

He doesn't look too skinny in this video. He actually looks athletic. I'm guessing the slin went out, hgh was lowered or dropped, and he's just on TRT+ (500 mg - 1000 mg)

[D.O.A.]

you are mean lol

[Matt]

He doesn't look too skinny in this video. He actually looks athletic. I'm guessing the slin went out, hgh was lowered or dropped, and he's just on TRT+ (500 mg - 1000 mg)

Getbig's own Van Bilderass has a really good eye for determining what sort of cycle a person is on.  I'm not the sort of person who expects bodybuilders to stay big after they retire.

What I find sad though is that if a retired pro bodybuilder TRULY went off gear, and just ate a bodybuilding diet and trained hard, they would be radically smaller in size.  Really, nothing close to how they looked prior.  And that's kind of sad.  You could literally take a top pro bodybuilder, have him retire and change nothing but switch from all the gear to TRT-only, and he would look night and day difference, even with no health problems.  It wouldn't be close.

[Van_Bilderass]

Getbig's own Van Bilderass has a really good eye for determining what sort of cycle a person is on.  I'm not the sort of person who expects bodybuilders to stay big after they retire.

What I find sad though is that if a retired pro bodybuilder TRULY went off gear, and just ate a bodybuilding diet and trained hard, they would be radically smaller in size.  Really, nothing close to how they looked prior.  And that's kind of sad.  You could literally take a top pro bodybuilder, have him retire and change nothing but switch from all the gear to TRT-only, and he would look night and day difference, even with no health problems.  It wouldn't be close.

There's a big difference between big cycles and TRT, but the difference between nothing at all and just TRT or slightly above "real" TRT, say 200mg a week, can be absolutely crazy.
Some bodybuilders can maintain pretty impressively for long periods of time on just a CC of test and a couple of units of GH. I would say that even 100mg of test will give a 40 year old guy a big advantage over a natural, completely healthy guy with healthy T levels.

Some retired bodybuilders who downsize and go on TRT maintain extremely lean bodies. I wonder if that's their natural genetics or if the drugs changed their metabolisms permanently somehow. Like Palumbo, who if I'm not mistaken claims to be on nothing at all, not even TRT, which he says would immediately put 20lbs on him - wouldn't be good for his heart condition. He might not be lying.

[The Scott]

There's a big difference between big cycles and TRT, but the difference between nothing at all and just TRT or slightly above "real" TRT, say 200mg a week, can be absolutely crazy.
Some bodybuilders can maintain pretty impressively for long periods of time on just a CC of test and a couple of units of GH. I would say that even 100mg of test will give a 40 year old guy a big advantage over a natural, completely healthy guy with healthy T levels.

Some retired bodybuilders who downsize and go on TRT maintain extremely lean bodies. I wonder if that's their natural genetics or if the drugs changed their metabolisms permanently somehow. Like Palumbo, who if I'm not mistaken claims to be on nothing at all, not even TRT, which he says would immediately put 20lbs on him - wouldn't be good for his heart condition. He might not be lying.

If Palumbo's lips were moving, he was lying.   

But yes, I trust your assessment and agree that even a recommended dose of TRT gives an advantage to the recipient. 

[Methyl m1ke]

  I dont get it. These guys retire or whatever and then they dont even try to maintain any muscle. It doesnt make sense UNLESS the doc said it will kill them due to other health reasons. I mean most of us actually like to train. I know they cant stay at 250 plus pounds but they could stay around 200 with muscle.  maybe they are just burned out mentally and physically to workout but yet they still do videos or expos or whatever.  hell stallone looks awesome and hes in his 70s.

99% of pro bodybuilders never built their foundations before getting huge. When they come off they shrink back to what they were. The muscle you gain juicing is mostly temporary. The muscle gained drug free is mostly permanent.

[pellius]

He is "tiny" only compared to his own previous self. Compared to the average man he is still huge and very muscular. He does not have tanked T because he is on TRT with a little GH too mlst likely.

Every bodybuilder, even the 70s guys had/have impaired testosterone production. This is not something that only occurred recently with increasing doses - this condition occurs with any meaningful use of anabolics. Even if a guy recovered normal production, how much muscle is a normal average of maybe 35mg of test going to maintain compared to the 5,000mg it took to build it?

I think Dennis is small now mostly because of a neck injury and because he doesn't care about being huge. I think however that he is extremely lean compared to the average man, and his muscle mass is way higher.

There's really no way to win for a former top bb. Stay big and they are addicts. Downsize and they are weak mentally and physically.

Only on GetBig.

[pellius]

99% of pro bodybuilders never built their foundations before getting huge. When they come off they shrink back to what they were. The muscle you gain juicing is mostly temporary. The muscle gained drug free is mostly permanent.

No, nothing is permanent. You stop training you will get back to where you were before you first started training and as the years go by you will continue to lose more muscle. How much you actually weight will just depend on how much calories you take in versus how many you burn.

[Bevo]

He doesn't look too skinny in this video. He actually looks athletic. I'm guessing the slin went out, hgh was lowered or dropped, and he's just on TRT+ (500 mg - 1000 mg)

I doubt trt is 500mg haha! Nothing 500-1000 is considered anything close to trt or “trt +” you are simply just “using gear” at that point

[Van_Bilderass]

I doubt trt is 500mg haha! Nothing 500-1000 is considered anything close to trt or “trt +” you are simply just “using gear” at that point

Pro Emeric Delzceg got some guys doing "microdoses" of 10mg of enanthate a day, supposedly is enough to give guys good numbers in the upper-normal range. Stan Efferding claims his TRT is 20mg of Enanthate a day, but he obviously hits cycles in there too.

[joswift]

Pro Emeric Delzceg got some guys doing "microdoses" of 10mg of enanthate a day, supposedly is enough to give guys good numbers in the upper-normal range. Stan Efferding claims his TRT is 20mg of Enanthate a day, but he obviously hits cycles in there too.

enanthate is long acting, why would you bother injecting every day? seems like a waste of time to me

[pellius]

Pro Emeric Delzceg got some guys doing "microdoses" of 10mg of enanthate a day, supposedly is enough to give guys good numbers in the upper-normal range. Stan Efferding claims his TRT is 20mg of Enanthate a day, but he obviously hits cycles in there too.

Milos claims 500mg/wk Test. He looks incredible.

[pellius]

enanthate is long acting, why would you bother injecting every day? seems like a waste of time to me

I was thinking the same thing. Even for Prop you don't need ED to maintain even levels.

[Van_Bilderass]

enanthate is long acting, why would you bother injecting every day? seems like a waste of time to me

They claim ED results in higher and more stable levels. Some HRT docs are doing this too. The interesting thing with enanthate is that it actually raises test faster than prop, though longer acting. Peak levels are at 12 hours with enanthate according to Emeric. The thing with 10mg shots is that you just pop them under the skin with an insulin pin. I have tried subq shots and I can do half a ML no problem if it's pharma test with low preservatives. There are even injector pens for subq test enanthate nowadays, 50-75-100mg in each dose.

https://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/index.php?threads/10-mg.142864/

[Marvin Martian]

In-N-Out Burger?

Do they have those in Canada? I have to confess that I have never eaten at In and Out. Are the burgers THAT good?
Food down here - both basic southern soul food and especially REAL Cajun - sets the bar kind of high for food. That said - I am not a huge seafood fan. I love gumbo but prefer chicken and andouille sausage over shrimp.

My wife is a friggin kick azz cook - and somehow make clean meals taste like the creole good! But every now and again I do love a tasty burger.

I guess this is totally derailing the thread - but WHO has the best burger?

[joswift]

Do they have those in Canada? I have to confess that I have never eaten at In and Out. Are the burgers THAT good?
Food down here - both basic southern soul food and especially REAL Cajun - sets the bar kind of high for food. That said - I am not a huge seafood fan. I love gumbo but prefer chicken and andouille sausage over shrimp.

My wife is a friggin kick azz cook - and somehow make clean meals taste like the creole good! But every now and again I do love a tasty burger.

I guess this is totally derailing the thread - but WHO has the best burger?

[pellius]

They claim ED results in higher and more stable levels. Some HRT docs are doing this too. The interesting thing with enanthate is that it actually raises test faster than prop, though longer acting. Peak levels are at 12 hours with enanthate according to Emeric. The thing with 10mg shots is that you just pop them under the skin with an insulin pin. I have tried subq shots and I can do half a ML no problem if it's pharma test with low preservatives. There are even injector pens for subq test enanthate nowadays, 50-75-100mg in each dose.

https://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/index.php?threads/10-mg.142864/

Interesting. I've heard of doing subq but thought you didn't get as much absorption. I seems to make sense to me as muscle is active tissue with blood flow and subq just goes into the fat but, tbh, I really don't know and just speculating.

I'm on TRT so that is 1cc intramuscularly per week and I dread it. I would much rather do two .5cc twice a week with an insulin pin subq. Actually, the longest needle I've seen on an insulin syringe is a half an inch and that will go into a muscle if you are pinning the delts. I would much rather use a 29-30 gauge if the oil will go through it and I assume you have to back load it. And twice a week of cyp will give even more even levels.

What is the minimum gauge who can use to get oil to go through an insulin syringe?