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What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« on: October 09, 2020, 12:32:18 PM »
Consumer Reports found toxic PFAS chemicals in several popular water brands, especially carbonated ones

https://www.consumerreports.org/bottled-water/whats-really-in-your-bottled-water/

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2020, 02:03:58 PM »
I buy Evian when it goes on sale at Sam's Club... a little over $1 a quart.  Very pure (no fluoride either) and the plastic they use does not leech Bisphenol-A.  The store brand water that Walmart, Target and regular supermarkets sell is garbage.  The more collapsible the plastic bottle is, the more potential for Bisphenol contamination.  All my tap/cooking water at home is triple filtered.

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2020, 02:11:42 PM »
 no one ever told you how much to water to drink until they started selling it in bottles

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2020, 02:47:47 PM »
no one ever told you how much to water to drink until they started selling it in bottles

This is very thought provoking.

I have done some research and found that our purified and bottled water is literally absent minerals and salts that actually make you retain hydration. I drank a gallon of bottled water and piss all day but feel dehydrated.

Recently started drinking tap water with a sea salt solution and have been feeling like a million bucks on about a liter or so a day.

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2020, 02:55:47 PM »
This is very thought provoking.

I have done some research and found that our purified and bottled water is literally absent minerals and salts that actually make you retain hydration. I drank a gallon of bottled water and piss all day but feel dehydrated.

Recently started drinking tap water with a sea salt solution and have been feeling like a million bucks on about a liter or so a day.

Is your tap water is fluoridated?... if so, you don't want that in your body.  You can send a sample of the tap water to a 3rd party lab and have it analyzed. 

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2020, 02:57:24 PM »
Damn, Topo Chico not looking well.

Most of our tap water is garbage too.  It really depends on where you live and how the area treats it's water supply.

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2020, 02:58:01 PM »
Is your tap water is fluoridated?... if so, you don't want that in your body.  You can send a sample of the tap water to a 3rd party lab and have it analyzed.

Couldn’t tell you. I can bench my body weight for almost 30 reps. Fluoride sounds like a concern for a much smaller man. 

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2020, 03:03:12 PM »
Couldn’t tell you. I can bench my body weight for almost 30 reps. Fluoride sounds like a concern for a much smaller man.

I know you're a big tough guy and all, but you need to do some homework.

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2020, 03:17:46 PM »
Couldn’t tell you. I can bench my body weight for almost 30 reps. Fluoride sounds like a concern for a much smaller man.

How tall are you and how much you weigh? Just curious to your benching ability.

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2020, 03:18:48 PM »
How tall are you and how much you weigh? Just curious to your benching ability.

Currently weighing in at 125 pounds, 6’3. I mostly do high reps for cuts.

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2020, 03:32:44 PM »
This is very thought provoking.

I have done some research and found that our purified and bottled water is literally absent minerals and salts that actually make you retain hydration. I drank a gallon of bottled water and piss all day but feel dehydrated.

Recently started drinking tap water with a sea salt solution and have been feeling like a million bucks on about a liter or so a day.

Yes electrolytes are very important. Other food ingredients are also important for hydration. Milk is actually better than plain water to "hold" water in the body.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/health/best-drinks-for-hydration-wellness/index.html

For rehydration after a workout a whole food meal with water is better than just water.


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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2020, 03:43:14 PM »
The article says the levels of chemicals are well below federal guidelines.

Nothing to see here...move along.

According to this article there has never been BPA in PET (#1) bottles used for bottled water.

https://www.factsaboutbpa.org/blog/explanation-bpa-plastic-water-bottles

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2020, 04:27:07 PM »
Parts per trillion folks.

Parts per trillion.

Not rinsing the tomatoes you bought at the grocery store will give you a million times more risk to carcinogens

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2020, 04:48:52 PM »
The article says the levels of chemicals are well below federal guidelines.

Nothing to see here...move along.

According to this article there has never been BPA in PET (#1) bottles used for bottled water.

https://www.factsaboutbpa.org/blog/explanation-bpa-plastic-water-bottles

Because the FDA or someone who works for the FDA says so? - lol

You trust government agencies?

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2020, 05:29:24 PM »
Because the FDA or someone who works for the FDA says so? - lol

You trust govternment agencies?

The FDA is part of a conspiracy to poison American citizens.

The FAA is part of a conspiracy to crash planes.

The NWS is part of a conspiracy to cause hurricanes.




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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2020, 05:35:26 PM »
I buy Evian when it goes on sale at Sam's Club... a little over $1 a quart.  Very pure (no fluoride either) and the plastic they use does not leech Bisphenol-A.  The store brand water that Walmart, Target and regular supermarkets sell is garbage.  The more collapsible the plastic bottle is, the more potential for Bisphenol contamination.  All my tap/cooking water at home is triple filtered.

EVIAN = NAIVE  ;)

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2020, 07:33:13 PM »
Tap water is bad.

 But so is bottled  water.

Filtered water is better but it filters out minerals.

Remember when the city of Flint was drinking lead and how it killed the population.

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2020, 08:47:13 PM »
I don't buy "bottled" water. 

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2020, 09:37:33 PM »
Tap water is bad.

 But so is bottled  water.

Filtered water is better but it filters out minerals.

Remember when the city of Flint was drinking lead and how it killed the population.

I thought only reverse osmosis removed minerals?

It doesn't remove chloramine though, or not the ammonia portion, I think. Residence time in charcoal seems to be the thing for it.

I've got chloramine treated water and am interested in systems for drinking water. I'm not so precious as to need a mega system that takes care of shower water, but would prefer not to consume the stuff and it's metabolites.

What's the solution for chloramine and do you have to remineralize?

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2020, 10:22:28 PM »
I thought only reverse osmosis removed minerals?

It doesn't remove chloramine though, or not the ammonia portion, I think. Residence time in charcoal seems to be the thing for it.

I've got chloramine treated water and am interested in systems for drinking water. I'm not so precious as to need a mega system that takes care of shower water, but would prefer not to consume the stuff and it's metabolites.

What's the solution for chloramine and do you have to remineralize?

You're correct bro. I thought I typed purified. But just because water is purified  ot doesn't necessarily removes minerals.

At one time I had a filtration system on my faucet and I would often run that water through a Brita water filter... then I lived with well water and now I drink tap.....

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2020, 11:28:16 PM »
Tap water is bad.

 But so is bottled  water.

Filtered water is better but it filters out minerals.

Remember when the city of Flint was drinking lead and how it killed the population.

 Not quite.

After decades of having its users not pay their water bills, the Flint Water Utility could no longer afford to operate. As a cost savings measure, politicians decided to switch from water supplied by the City of Detroit, to water from the Flint River, while a pipeline to Lake Huron was being built.

The Flint River is of low water quality and required high chlorine doses for disinfection. Leaving water with a high chlorine residual in the water lines promoted the formation of TTHMS and the leaching of lead out of the homeowner’s lead water services. There was an outbreak of Legionnaires disease that killed people, but lead didn’t.

So after decades of not having their customers pay their water bills, the Flint Water Utility did not have the money to replace the lead services lines up to the homeowner’s property line. Of course as many of you know, the homeowner is responsible for replacing their own water service from the property line to their house (which the citizens of Flint did not do).

The result was an increase of lead levels in children, which is harmful and can cause a number of serious health issues. So what happened....the citizens who didn’t pay their water bills and who didn’t replace their part of their water service lines...protested until the taxpayers footed the bill for new lines, new water transmission lines, new water distribution lines, new treatment facilities, bottled water and home filtration units.

That’s a condensed version of what really happened. Understanding the demographics of Flint, MI makes this a lot easier to figure out how something like this could happen.

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2020, 12:53:26 AM »
Not quite.

After decades of having its users not pay their water bills, the Flint Water Utility could no longer afford to operate. As a cost savings measure, politicians decided to switch from water supplied by the City of Detroit, to water from the Flint River, while a pipeline to Lake Huron was being built.

The Flint River is of low water quality and required high chlorine doses for disinfection. Leaving water with a high chlorine residual in the water lines promoted the formation of TTHMS and the leaching of lead out of the homeowner’s lead water services. There was an outbreak of Legionnaires disease that killed people, but lead didn’t.

So after decades of not having their customers pay their water bills, the Flint Water Utility did not have the money to replace the lead services lines up to the homeowner’s property line. Of course as many of you know, the homeowner is responsible for replacing their own water service from the property line to their house (which the citizens of Flint did not do).

The result was an increase of lead levels in children, which is harmful and can cause a number of serious health issues. So what happened....the citizens who didn’t pay their water bills and who didn’t replace their part of their water service lines...protested until the taxpayers footed the bill for new lines, new water transmission lines, new water distribution lines, new treatment facilities, bottled water and home filtration units.

That’s a condensed version of what really happened. Understanding the demographics of Flint, MI makes this a lot easier to figure out how something like this could happen.

My friend's dad was laughing hysterically as Jewish journalist Jon Stuart Libowitz [Jon Stewart] covered this, and was specifically blaming old White men.  I told him that the Black people didn't pay for their water bill, SO WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK HAPPENS?

But he's just a dumb shit.  Just a stupid welder.  Not to bash welders - welding pays a lot of money, so getting involved with it for that would be fine. But that's not why he did it.  He did it because he wasn't smart enough to pursue anything else.  So he is a fucking idiot.  And to hear that dumb shit laugh as Jon Stewart blamed it all on White men.

Couldn't Stewart just say NOTHING?  WHY must he take an obvious racial thing [Black incompetence] and blame it on White people?  ::)  Blacks in Flint had their water cut off because they chronically didn't pay the bill for years.

Oh...and "The Daily Show" or whatever Stewart's show was called asked to let Blacks pay for their water as a portion of their total income.  HOW THE FUCK DO YOU PAY A PORTION OF A MONTHLY RECURRING FUCKING BILL???  ::)

So if the bill is $15 [or however low it is], was Jewish journalist Jon Stewart suggesting that the Black population of Flint should pay $2.50 a month?  LOL...how does that ultimately pay down the RECURRING BILL?

But no - Jon Stewart is too stupid to understand that Black people need to pay for their water bill too, and Black people are apparently too stupid to pay a bill that I would bet is under $20 a month.

And racial diversity is the USA's greatest strength according to Jewish journalists ["comedians"] like Jon Stewart Libotwitz.

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2020, 02:32:34 AM »
This is very thought provoking.

I have done some research and found that our purified and bottled water is literally absent minerals and salts that actually make you retain hydration. I drank a gallon of bottled water and piss all day but feel dehydrated.

Recently started drinking tap water with a sea salt solution and have been feeling like a million bucks on about a liter or so a day.

I think if someone is really concerned about their health they should just get regular blood work. It's covered by insurance and I've never had a doctor refuse me. It's no skin off their nose to prescribe blood tests. That way there is no second guessing. You will know exactly your levels for anything you want. If you're a bber I would think you would want to know what your Test levels and igf levels are. Also, you may catch things early before it becomes a problem because often you don't feel anything until it's too late. A friend of mine last year found out he was in the beginning of stage 3 CKD (chronic kidney disease) when his eGFR was checked. He was able to determine that it was his nonstop use of Tren. He doesn't compete so he never used diuretics. After stopping he slowly went back up and is holding steady at stage 2. Also, liver enzymes should be monitored and it does seem to be true both from my experience back in my thirties and forties, and the experience of others, that injectables don't seem to have much effect on the liver but oral definitely do. Also, for those that buy ug HGH you definitely want to get your baseline igf so you can determine if the ug brand you are using is actually working.

I tried MK-677 and it definitely raised my igf level. But it makes you want to eat constantly and I started getting some chub on my stomach. I also got an increase in blood pressure but that seem to taper off after a couple of weeks.

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2020, 02:55:40 AM »
I have a well, dont drink the water or cook with it. Testing always shows high bacteria, you always have to be treating it, testing it, etc.
Plus it would taste like Chlorine if drunk after all the treating.

Bottled is probably crap, but safer bacteria wise than the well. I fill those "Primo" 5-gallon jugs (like 5 a week) at the local fill station for $1.95 for 5-gallons.
(So less than 10.00 a week). Not really too concerned how "healthy" it is or isn't at this point. The extra jugs filled w/ sand makes for decent implements for Hillbilly yard lifting, light farmers, etc.

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Re: What’s Really in Your Bottled Water?
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2020, 03:14:58 AM »
Couldn’t tell you. I can bench my body weight for almost 30 reps. Fluoride sounds like a concern for a much smaller man.

LOL! Good answer!