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Re: resting heart rate..
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2020, 08:36:10 AM »
I've had horribly high HR my whole adult life, like 80-100. BP was 120/80 last week, HR 96. I might not live much longer, all the beats are used up now surely. They do say some have higher HR genetically, my mother has it too, but it's still concerning. I really should get on a real cardio regimen to see what would happen, never could get into it...

Take some bisoprolol?

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Re: resting heart rate..
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2020, 08:46:44 AM »
Waking usually between 58-61

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« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2020, 08:49:29 AM »
Take some bisoprolol?

I'm on metoprolol, been on it since 2018. At night HR may drop to 70, still high. The adrenaline blocking effect is interesting, in high stress situations you don't get worked up physically, even mentally it seems to block certain stress.

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« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2020, 11:23:56 AM »
Blood pressure this morning was 106/63  and pulse was 69.

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« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2020, 04:06:28 PM »
Endurance sports can drop your resting HR a lot.  Before I started cycling mine was 68, and within a few years it was 48.
If I do intervals I can get it down to 42.

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Re: resting heart rate..
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2020, 04:34:29 PM »
I've had horribly high HR my whole adult life, like 80-100. BP was 120/80 last week, HR 96. I might not live much longer, all the beats are used up now surely. They do say some have higher HR genetically, my mother has it too, but it's still concerning. I really should get on a real cardio regimen to see what would happen, never could get into it...

Your heart rate doesn't determine how long you live .. The average heart is more than capable of pumping billions of times.

People have different heart rates, this is not normally due to pathology, but just individual variance. It's like me saying I'm going to live longer than you because I'm an inch and a half shorter than you... Makes no sense.

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Re: resting heart rate..
« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2020, 04:37:25 PM »
I'm on metoprolol, been on it since 2018. At night HR may drop to 70, still high. The adrenaline blocking effect is interesting, in high stress situations you don't get worked up physically, even mentally it seems to block certain stress.

Yeah beta blockers are great, they make you cool as a cucumber.

they're banned as performance enhancing drugs for this reason, there was widespread use in 8 ball snooker etc to stop adrenaline on big shots.

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Re: resting heart rate..
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2020, 04:38:55 PM »
I've had horribly high HR my whole adult life, like 80-100. BP was 120/80 last week, HR 96. I might not live much longer, all the beats are used up now surely. They do say some have higher HR genetically, my mother has it too, but it's still concerning. I really should get on a real cardio regimen to see what would happen, never could get into it...

Your numbers may not be as bad as you think.

A normal resting heart rate for adults ranges from 60 to 100 beats per minute.

Generally, a lower heart rate at rest implies more efficient heart function and better cardiovascular fitness. For example, a well-trained athlete might have a normal resting heart rate closer to 40 beats per minute.

What Should Blood Pressure be According to Age?
Age           Women     Men
18       120/80   120/80
19-24   120/79   120/79
25-29   120/80   121/80
30-35   122/81   123/82
36-39   123/82   124/83
40-45   124/83   125/83
46-49   126/84   127/84
50-55   129/85   128/85
56-59   130/86   131/87
60+           134/84   135/88

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Re: resting heart rate..
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2020, 05:51:58 PM »
Your numbers may not be as bad as you think.

A normal resting heart rate for adults ranges from 60 to 100 beats per minute.

Generally, a lower heart rate at rest implies more efficient heart function and better cardiovascular fitness. For example, a well-trained athlete might have a normal resting heart rate closer to 40 beats per minute.

What Should Blood Pressure be According to Age?
Age           Women     Men
18       120/80   120/80
19-24   120/79   120/79
25-29   120/80   121/80
30-35   122/81   123/82
36-39   123/82   124/83
40-45   124/83   125/83
46-49   126/84   127/84
50-55   129/85   128/85
56-59   130/86   131/87
60+           134/84   135/88


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Re: resting heart rate..
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2020, 06:05:06 PM »


My age group diastolic seems a bit high on these charts. Even with me I’m running in the  mid sixties to low 70’s

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« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2020, 06:07:44 PM »
Here’s mine. Not bad for a man in his 50’s:



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« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2020, 06:55:45 PM »
My age group diastolic seems a bit high on these charts. Even with me I’m running in the  mid sixties to low 70’s

My guess is there are different theories about what is high and what isn't. I use the OMRON 7 Series Wireless Bluetooth® Wrist home blood pressure monitor It will measure, store and let you review 90 readings for one user, and fits adult wrists from 5.3” to 8.5” in circumference. The accompanying smart phone program that records and stores readings uses a chart that suggests 80/121 is stage 1 hypertension. Most other charts I've seen show this reading is normal for someone who is much younger than me.  https://omronhealthcare.com/products/7-series-wireless-wrist-blood-pressure-monitor-bp6350/


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« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2020, 07:05:27 PM »
All genetically determined and comparing people is meaningless. I am super fit and in bike racing condition. My resting pulse is in the low 50's and always has been. My max pulse is in the high 180's and always has been. Always means over 20 years.

My best friend is always in shape as well and his resting pulse is low 40's. His max pulse is in the mid 150's.

I used to race with a guy who had a resting pulse in the high 20's and a max pulse in the 190's. He and I did equally well in races.

Point is the only comparison you should do is against yourself - at different levels of fitness or sickness.


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« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2020, 11:22:40 PM »
Yeah beta blockers are great, they make you cool as a cucumber.

they're banned as performance enhancing drugs for this reason, there was widespread use in 8 ball snooker etc to stop adrenaline on big shots.

I've written about it before, but I read some interesting things about beta-blockers and PTSD. If you take a beta-blocker fairly immediately after a traumatic event they may block traumatic events from "setting" in your memory. This could be used on soldiers in combat situations etc, but it raised some ethical concerns wrt to soldiers sort of becoming killing machines who pay no price for it.

Anyone here really up on training for cardio fitness? I've never read up on it and I'm sure there would be a lot to wade through. What I'm wondering is what kind of intensity, duration and frequency is required for improving your cardio? How quickly do you get results? What I have seen is mentions on how it needs to be done at a certain intensity to get something out of it.

I did see some science program that said a certain percentage of people get no improvements from any cardio regimen. The host of the show was told he belonged to this group after a genetic test and was told he would likely not improve his cardio parameters through training  :D

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Re: resting heart rate..
« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2020, 11:46:09 PM »
Your numbers may not be as bad as you think.

A normal resting heart rate for adults ranges from 60 to 100 beats per minute.

Generally, a lower heart rate at rest implies more efficient heart function and better cardiovascular fitness. For example, a well-trained athlete might have a normal resting heart rate closer to 40 beats per minute.

What Should Blood Pressure be According to Age?
Age           Women     Men
18       120/80   120/80
19-24   120/79   120/79
25-29   120/80   121/80
30-35   122/81   123/82
36-39   123/82   124/83
40-45   124/83   125/83
46-49   126/84   127/84
50-55   129/85   128/85
56-59   130/86   131/87
60+           134/84   135/88

Regarding BP I read an article on lef.org saying older people actually need higher BP. Their old organs don't diffuse with blood as well so you may need higher pressure. They found a long time ago that agressively treating them for high BP actually killed them off.

The guidelines for BP in the US have come down though. BP should be below about 120/80 whereas here in Europe normal is still a bit higher.

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« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2020, 11:53:36 PM »
So my woman downloaded this app that measures resting heart rate and we tested it for fun. Hers was around 38 and mine was 65...

Which is higher than average and definately not "athlete territory".  They say your heart has a limited amount of beats in a lifetime. Like a car engine mileage.  :-\ Maybe it's time to up the cardio.

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At an average of 80 beats per minute, most of us will manage less than four billion beats in our lives. But you don’t die because you run out of heartbeats – you run out of heartbeats because you die.

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Re: resting heart rate..
« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2020, 11:53:55 PM »
My resting heart rate is low after i masturbate which i do often (so i will live longer)  ;D

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Re: resting heart rate..
« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2020, 12:00:48 AM »
Typically get big lot of massive guys with endurance athletes heart rates.lol  You cannot have both size and low HR well not with age. Only on Getbig. On TRT I'm sub 60 on it I'm 8 to 10lbs heavier and around 7 beats a minute higher. Im almost 50 as well. BP Typically 120 over 80 all day everyday.
Some of the HR rates quoted here are inline with the boxers at my gym and I'm talking middleweights and under, No way someones sitting mid 40s with muscular bodyweight, its just what happens even football players resting HRS are higher its just what happens with bodyweight and muscle the heart needs to work harder to support the mass.

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« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2020, 12:03:50 AM »
I'm on metoprolol, been on it since 2018. At night HR may drop to 70, still high. The adrenaline blocking effect is interesting, in high stress situations you don't get worked up physically, even mentally it seems to block certain stress.

I too am on Metoprolol. -Been on it much longer than you have. My pulse runs between 60 and 75. Didn't measure it prior to taking Metoprolol, so I don't know how much it has lowered it.

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Re: resting heart rate..
« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2020, 01:21:13 AM »
So my woman downloaded this app that measures resting heart rate and we tested it for fun. Hers was around 38 and mine was 65...

Which is higher than average and definately not "athlete territory".  They say your heart has a limited amount of beats in a lifetime. Like a car engine mileage.  :-\ Maybe it's time to up the cardio.

What's yours?

I'm starting to believe this might be true.

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Re: resting heart rate..
« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2020, 01:36:34 AM »
My resting heart rate is low after i masturbate which i do often (so i will live longer)  ;D


Must be hitting your target heart rate then LOL.  Cardio activity - GetBig style  ;D
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« Reply #46 on: October 12, 2020, 03:30:26 AM »
I've written about it before, but I read some interesting things about beta-blockers and PTSD. If you take a beta-blocker fairly immediately after a traumatic event they may block traumatic events from "setting" in your memory. This could be used on soldiers in combat situations etc, but it raised some ethical concerns wrt to soldiers sort of becoming killing machines who pay no price for it.

Anyone here really up on training for cardio fitness? I've never read up on it and I'm sure there would be a lot to wade through. What I'm wondering is what kind of intensity, duration and frequency is required for improving your cardio? How quickly do you get results? What I have seen is mentions on how it needs to be done at a certain intensity to get something out of it.


I did see some science program that said a certain percentage of people get no improvements from any cardio regimen. The host of the show was told he belonged to this group after a genetic test and was told he would likely not improve his cardio parameters through training  :D

High intensity interval training is the go for the heart.

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Re: resting heart rate..
« Reply #47 on: October 12, 2020, 04:14:08 AM »
All genetically determined and comparing people is meaningless. I am super fit and in bike racing condition. My resting pulse is in the low 50's and always has been. My max pulse is in the high 180's and always has been. Always means over 20 years.

My best friend is always in shape as well and his resting pulse is low 40's. His max pulse is in the mid 150's.

I used to race with a guy who had a resting pulse in the high 20's and a max pulse in the 190's. He and I did equally well in races.

Point is the only comparison you should do is against yourself - at different levels of fitness or sickness.



20's?

Wow!

Was this him?


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« Reply #48 on: October 12, 2020, 04:16:46 AM »
So my woman downloaded this app that measures resting heart rate and we tested it for fun. Hers was around 38 and mine was 65...

Which is higher than average and definately not "athlete territory".  They say your heart has a limited amount of beats in a lifetime. Like a car engine mileage.  :-\ Maybe it's time to up the cardio.

What's yours?

If you do lots of cardio you'll just use up more heartbeats.

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« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2020, 08:42:16 AM »
I've written about it before, but I read some interesting things about beta-blockers and PTSD. If you take a beta-blocker fairly immediately after a traumatic event they may block traumatic events from "setting" in your memory. This could be used on soldiers in combat situations etc, but it raised some ethical concerns wrt to soldiers sort of becoming killing machines who pay no price for it.

Anyone here really up on training for cardio fitness? I've never read up on it and I'm sure there would be a lot to wade through. What I'm wondering is what kind of intensity, duration and frequency is required for improving your cardio? How quickly do you get results? What I have seen is mentions on how it needs to be done at a certain intensity to get something out of it.

I did see some science program that said a certain percentage of people get no improvements from any cardio regimen. The host of the show was told he belonged to this group after a genetic test and was told he would likely not improve his cardio parameters through training  :D
I'm not taking anything that makes me a beta.