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Re: Doug Brignole training videos
« Reply #75 on: October 16, 2020, 12:58:30 PM »
and this will also cause an argument from text book know it alls.  BUT i hate to tell you that strength does not mean a bigger muscle.  there is so much more to gaining strength than gaining size and vice versa.  a big muscle does not mean a strong muscle either.   lots of little guys with little to no muscle are very strong and lots of big guys are not very strong.  and the above poster saying NO bodybuilder should train with less than 10 reps is just plain wrong. some need to train in the 5 rep range for their body type and others need higher reps ( 12 to 15)  and some the middle of the road.   if strength equalled size then those taking drugs like winstrol would be huge due to the fact in increases your strength. right?  BUT its doesnt work that way. you get stronger with little added weight( muscle) gain.    lifting weights and getting bigger and or stronger is not rocket science.  lift eat rest repeat. listen to your body. if heavy ( for you) isnt causing gains then switch to lighter more reps. if that doesnt work try other stuff.  dont be a slave to one way and only one way to work out.  especially if your natural.  myself for example my triceps likes higher reps biceps fewer. shoulders need higher reps but chest and back need fewer. thighs and hamstrings need higher reps and calves heavy and lower reps.  took me years to figure out that i needed different weights/rep ranges for different body parts. also  basic exercises do not work for everyone. dont be afraid to drop benches rows pulldowns standing curls  shoulder presses and squats from your routine,

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Re: Doug Brignole training videos
« Reply #76 on: October 16, 2020, 01:13:04 PM »
Great minds think alike bigbychoice.

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« Reply #77 on: October 16, 2020, 01:47:51 PM »
and this will also cause an argument from text book know it alls.  BUT i hate to tell you that strength does not mean a bigger muscle.  there is so much more to gaining strength than gaining size and vice versa.  a big muscle does not mean a strong muscle either.   lots of little guys with little to no muscle are very strong and lots of big guys are not very strong.  and the above poster saying NO bodybuilder should train with less than 10 reps is just plain wrong. some need to train in the 5 rep range for their body type and others need higher reps ( 12 to 15)  and some the middle of the road.   if strength equalled size then those taking drugs like winstrol would be huge due to the fact in increases your strength. right?  BUT its doesnt work that way. you get stronger with little added weight( muscle) gain.    lifting weights and getting bigger and or stronger is not rocket science.  lift eat rest repeat. listen to your body. if heavy ( for you) isnt causing gains then switch to lighter more reps. if that doesnt work try other stuff.  dont be a slave to one way and only one way to work out.  especially if your natural.  myself for example my triceps likes higher reps biceps fewer. shoulders need higher reps but chest and back need fewer. thighs and hamstrings need higher reps and calves heavy and lower reps.  took me years to figure out that i needed different weights/rep ranges for different body parts. also  basic exercises do not work for everyone. dont be afraid to drop benches rows pulldowns standing curls  shoulder presses and squats from your routine,

Agree couldn’t gain for shit till dropping down to multiple sets of 5

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Re: Doug Brignole training videos
« Reply #78 on: October 16, 2020, 02:21:39 PM »
especially if your natural.  myself for example my triceps likes higher reps biceps fewer. shoulders need higher reps but chest and back need fewer. thighs and hamstrings need higher reps and calves

If I'm reading you right you're natural? Fact of the matter is that most people aren't gaining shit when natural, except for the initial gains when starting out. This is even true of juicers. They don't gain shit after the initial gains from juice.
I always get a laugh hearing lifters talking about what "works" for them. It's like, fella, you didn't gain anything the last 15 years, what the hell are you talking about?
Most lifters are losing and regaining lost size most of the time. Very little time is spent putting on new size.

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Re: Doug Brignole training videos
« Reply #79 on: October 16, 2020, 02:29:15 PM »
If I'm reading you right you're natural? Fact of the matter is that most people aren't gaining shit when natural, except for the initial gains when starting out. This is even true of juicers. They don't gain shit after the initial gains from juice.
I always get a laugh hearing lifters talking about what "works" for them. It's like, fella, you didn't gain anything the last 15 years, what the hell are you talking about?
Most lifters are losing and regaining lost size most of the time. Very little time is spent putting on new size.

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Re: Doug Brignole training videos
« Reply #80 on: October 16, 2020, 02:43:22 PM »
If I'm reading you right you're natural? Fact of the matter is that most people aren't gaining shit when natural, except for the initial gains when starting out. This is even true of juicers. They don't gain shit after the initial gains from juice.
I always get a laugh hearing lifters talking about what "works" for them. It's like, fella, you didn't gain anything the last 15 years, what the hell are you talking about?
Most lifters are losing and regaining lost size most of the time. Very little time is spent putting on new size.
Or they claim they've made steady gains through the years.  I started lifting when I was 12 and doubled my bench in 1 month.  If I made steady gains all these years I'd be benching planet Jupiter.

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Re: Doug Brignole training videos
« Reply #81 on: October 16, 2020, 02:51:49 PM »
Great post bud
and this will also cause an argument from text book know it alls.  BUT i hate to tell you that strength does not mean a bigger muscle.  there is so much more to gaining strength than gaining size and vice versa.  a big muscle does not mean a strong muscle either.   lots of little guys with little to no muscle are very strong and lots of big guys are not very strong.  and the above poster saying NO bodybuilder should train with less than 10 reps is just plain wrong. some need to train in the 5 rep range for their body type and others need higher reps ( 12 to 15)  and some the middle of the road.   if strength equalled size then those taking drugs like winstrol would be huge due to the fact in increases your strength. right?  BUT its doesnt work that way. you get stronger with little added weight( muscle) gain.    lifting weights and getting bigger and or stronger is not rocket science.  lift eat rest repeat. listen to your body. if heavy ( for you) isnt causing gains then switch to lighter more reps. if that doesnt work try other stuff.  dont be a slave to one way and only one way to work out.  especially if your natural.  myself for example my triceps likes higher reps biceps fewer. shoulders need higher reps but chest and back need fewer. thighs and hamstrings need higher reps and calves heavy and lower reps.  took me years to figure out that i needed different weights/rep ranges for different body parts. also  basic exercises do not work for everyone. dont be afraid to drop benches rows pulldowns standing curls  shoulder presses and squats from your routine,

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Re: Doug Brignole training videos
« Reply #82 on: October 17, 2020, 01:04:58 AM »
My man Simple Simon defying that fuckhead "Father Time" !!

Props my vriend!

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Re: Doug Brignole training videos
« Reply #83 on: October 17, 2020, 02:01:14 AM »
Missionary position intercourse can be hard on the knees for sure. 

But I think you mean it takes some of the piss and vinegar out of you.  This is for sure the truth.

Mentally, I always felt I could think more clearly if I was getting laid a lot.

Ah, so that explains your torrential flow of illogic flowing in this thread. J/K  ;D

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Re: Doug Brignole training videos
« Reply #84 on: October 17, 2020, 02:28:41 AM »
The truth is this, if your max bench is 135 lbs, your chest is almost non existent but by the time you can bench 225 lbs you have at least something, by the time you can bench 315 lbs your chest is substantially bigger and by the time you can bench 405 lbs pretty much your entire upper body is substantially bigger and by the time you can bench 495 lbs you are looking pretty big for sure (with 20'' arms and stuff) also you should improve your squat and your deadlift, by the time you can squat and deadlift 750 lbs your legs are pretty big

This is true. When a muscle gets bigger it gets stronger in the sense that it increases it's contractile force. This should be obvious. When a muscle gets bigger it either increases the size of the individual fibers (hypertrophy) or increases the number of fibers (hyperplasia). Both of these conditions result in an increase in contractile force.  Conversely, if those fibers start to shrink or waste away they atrophy and the ability to contract decreases. These are just objective facts not subject to debate.

The confusion lies when strength is defined not just by the ability of the muscle to contract but by the function ability of the body operating as a whole. Generating force, moving a weight, say in the case of performing the bench press, there are so many other factors involved other than pure muscle strength to move a certain amount of weight that it is meaningless to compare two different people. Difference in arm length, neurological efficiency, techniques, tendon strength, skill in the movement... it goes on and on. The only meaningful comparison you can make is to yourself. So whether you are strong or weak "for your size" is not as important as the ability to progress in resistance. If you are an experience trainee, all the peripheral factors: skill, leverage, neurological efficiency, technique... are now held constant. The only factor now for that particular individual is increasing muscle size and strength which is directly correlated.

So though two people may be able to bench press 315 lbs can easily have a dramatically difference in musculature, one thing that you can be certain in both cases, that when each individual started benching at, say, 135 lbs, they had noticeably less muscle mass than they now have benching 315 lbs.

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Re: Doug Brignole training videos
« Reply #85 on: October 17, 2020, 02:34:55 AM »
Oh yes, I forgot to mention, I meant it reaching these strength levels while training as a bodybuilder! Not as a powerlifter! A bodybuilder should never do less than 10 reps, using math calculations a max can be calculated. But make no mistake about it, natties need to get stronger to build mass, idk how it is with steroids but I think even with steroids there's only so much pumping can do, you do eventually have to add weight and get progressively stronger on all your lifts to continue to grow, even when you are on steroids

I think it is always a big mistake to make such absolute claims. Where did you get this 10 rep absolute requirement for optimal gains, especially since no one, other than maybe you, though even that I doubt, ever does? Haven't you watch the infinite amount of videos out there where the rep range varies wildly?

I remember the strength coach at our gym put it this way: A powerlifter tries to find the easiest way to move the weight. A bodybuilder tries to make a movement as hard as possible on the muscle. This will always result in having to use less weight due to the emphasis on form rather than just hoist it up anyway you can.

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Re: Doug Brignole training videos
« Reply #86 on: October 17, 2020, 02:51:44 AM »
If I'm reading you right you're natural? Fact of the matter is that most people aren't gaining shit when natural, except for the initial gains when starting out. This is even true of juicers. They don't gain shit after the initial gains from juice.
I always get a laugh hearing lifters talking about what "works" for them. It's like, fella, you didn't gain anything the last 15 years, what the hell are you talking about?
Most lifters are losing and regaining lost size most of the time. Very little time is spent putting on new size.

I swear, sometimes when I read your posts I think I am reading myself. I can't count the number of times I've heard people tell me "It works for me." And I always think, "What do you mean by that? You haven't changed in years."

There is this one guy in my gym. Strong guy, a bit fat but built like a tank, and disciplined as hell. Never misses a workout, you can set a clock to his schedule, and has been doing the same thing for years. We once got to talking and he told me he trains seven days a week. He does a traditional six day a week program, training each bodypart twice a week, and on the 7th day he does what he calls a "Chip Chop" workout. When I asked him what he meant by that, he says that is the day when gives some extra training to body parts that are lagging. His weak points as he further explained.

This type of stuff just amazes me. How this is emblematic of how so many live their lives not just in bbing. They're not stupid, or lazy, but just, I don't know -- robots? Just going through the motions of life so unaware. Like those kinds of people that still wear a face mask when they are driving alone in their cars with the windows closed and presumably the a/c/ on. I've know this guy for over 15 years and he has always looked the same. I would really like to have seen an example where one of his body parts were starting to lag and then needed some "Chip Chop" treatment to bring them back up to snuff and it was now time to move over to another bodypart in need of some "Chip Chop".

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Re: Doug Brignole training videos
« Reply #87 on: October 17, 2020, 02:54:06 AM »
22 years apart


You did seem to have increased the width of your clavicle bone. Monster props for that. People always insist that you can't change your skeletal structure. If you could share your secret to Health you could transform him into the greatest bber ever.

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Re: Doug Brignole training videos
« Reply #88 on: October 17, 2020, 04:29:51 AM »
no im not "natural". been using off and on since 16. ( mostly off)  got my first dball prescription at 16 from family doctor.( 2.53 cents with my dads insurance)  he put me on 4 tabs a day ( 5mg each)  damn did i grow from that first 6 week cycle. guys older than me at the gym asked what the doc put me on i told them and they freaked out saying they were only taking 2 tabs.  im 56 now and still using  but mostly milder stuff and some test of course. always do bloods donate blood and never mega dose. Im no pro nor do i have the genetics to ever be able to turn pro ( i knew that many years ago) so i just do the best with what i have. im currently 5ft 9 205 lbs and 8 percent bodyfat ( using a caliper)  ive been as high as 238 lbs at 12 percent but found it hard to function. i just felt un well. my sweet spot is right around 200 lbs give or take a few pounds.  when im off no matter what i do i drop to around 180 ( give or take a few lbs) but i quickly gain it back but it does get harder to regain as i get older. so i switched to milder ones and keep rotating them around. not trying to get "huge" just keep current size.  of course no matter what father time gets to us all.

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« Reply #89 on: October 17, 2020, 07:14:41 AM »
GOOD POSTS HERE.....i've been training long time and have all these conversations in my head lol.

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Re: Doug Brignole training videos
« Reply #90 on: October 17, 2020, 08:06:22 AM »
   also text books and doctors say that "cumming"  doesnt have any affect on a mans knees.  so does anyone here have issues with knees after ejaculation? yes. we all do. boxers and other athletes all know that it does in fact hurt the knees. dont believe me then go right ahead and do some squats after you have ejaculated.  so again text books and docs are NOT always right. ( and please guys dont make this into a fag thing like some of you always do)

Truth here.  I remember training legs in the 90's and my training partner would sometimes bang his wife before doing legs.  His squat weight dropped by least 30-40%.  He was complaining about being weak/tired all the way through the workout and all I would say is: "I told you not to fuck her before training"

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« Reply #91 on: October 17, 2020, 08:21:52 AM »
Truth here.  I remember training legs in the 90's and my training partner would sometimes bang his wife before doing legs. His squat weight dropped by least 30-40%.  He was complaining about being weak/tired all the way through the workout and all I would say is: "I told you not to fuck her before training"

I take it you didnt train at Planet Fitness?

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« Reply #92 on: October 17, 2020, 08:38:10 AM »
I take it you didnt train at Planet Fitness?
LOL...

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Re: Doug Brignole training videos
« Reply #93 on: October 17, 2020, 01:36:35 PM »
I'm the only natty with legit 20'' arms, that I know of (I know Mike O'hearn is bigger than me though with 21'' arms) so I think it's fair to say I know my stuff

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« Reply #94 on: October 17, 2020, 01:56:42 PM »
I'm the only natty with legit 20'' arms, that I know of (I know Mike O'hearn is bigger than me though with 21'' arms) so I think it's fair to say I know my stuff

heres a 24 inch natty arm

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Re: Doug Brignole training videos
« Reply #95 on: October 17, 2020, 02:41:06 PM »
heres a 24 inch natty arm

Yeah but what's her bf %? 30-40%?

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Re: Doug Brignole training videos
« Reply #96 on: October 17, 2020, 03:15:06 PM »
Yeah but what's her bf %? 30-40%?

Whats yours?

I mean really, not just the one you have in your imagination.

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« Reply #97 on: October 17, 2020, 04:54:08 PM »
heres a 24 inch natty arm


Lots of concentration curls!

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« Reply #98 on: October 18, 2020, 03:44:52 AM »
Lots of concentration curls!
With a spoon.  High volume!

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« Reply #99 on: October 18, 2020, 05:17:57 AM »
Ah, so that explains your torrential flow of illogic flowing in this thread. J/K  ;D

Biden-speak.